"But I am a WOZ buyer and owner (love the game). Yet my drink is safely sitting in its glass. Yup, there have been problems along the way. There were some major miscues and mistakes we all know about. Jack can't blow his nose without people complaining about which nostril it was shipped through. Yet he built an amazing game. I think he learned a shit-ton from building WOZ. And I firmly believe he built a company that can survive long term. He will fix his supply chain issues through the completion of WOZ and through The Hobbit. I'm expecting TH to be a lot smoother just because of the lessons he has had. So why wouldn't I think he can deliver Pat's game. Anyone thinking TH will be as slow as WOZ just isn't looking at reality."

Agreed! This is why hopefully TH and Pat's game won't have delays and technical problems. I think JJP learned a ton in making WOZ and even with the problems is turned out to be a great game. It's the best game I've ever owned. d I believe TH and Pat's game will be incredible. My hope is Pat's game will equal or surpass any of the incredible games he's designed so far for Williams and Stern.

"CraZ seriously calm down before you have a stroke. The issues we're fixed and the games are nearly done. I'd hate to see the grudge you would hold and the outcome of a tirade on something that was seriously life impacting and not a hobby. Based on your commentary in that post though, it's clear how little you do know even with public information. You do know the back glasses are mirrored right? Also we tried to play and work with the P-Roc and it didn't do what we wanted the way we wanted it too. And the light issues didn't start until after games has begun shipping and it took us a bit to isolate the root cause and develop a fix. Again you are spouting out things you know nothing about even though it's all public info that I've provided when asked. Info that you probably chose to ignore because of the aggravation you have."

I'm no JJP crazy defender but I'm not surprised a new company had some tech issues, delays etc with their first product. The key to me is always a company's response to that. I believe JJP work and is working darn hard to make things right. I know they've been responsive to me and I think WOZ is an incredible game and I'm really looking forward to TH and Pat's game. I believe JJP will just get better and better at designing, building and getting games out in a more timely manner. I
'm so glad they hired Pat and that he's doing an original theme. Can't wait to see what he designs!