I don't mean to be negative but if this guy has a LLC and business license how can you expect to get anything back using the legal system? Think about predator. Kevin did not even have a business license or LLC. There were miles of documents and statements that self implicated himself and in the end all of the legal fees amounted to nothing! How is Kevin not in jail? Stealing IP and defrauding people out of $500k or whatever it was? All without a business or LCC license. ASOA might be found liable and a lean put on them that no one can ever collect as the business has no assets. I think these clowns know this. I see it all the time with contractors. Clawback is rare from what I know to the real owner (Jonathan). Can a Pinside lawyer give us their take on this?

No way this Jonathan is not a scammer. See my previous post. He has no warehouse, is not a distributer, and had 3rd party deliver games. He lied numerous times about trivial details. No company would do this. Remember this appears to be a one man shop he is the business. Any and all of these are red flags.

He paid off one person 2750whatever as it was cheap to do so and he was barking the loudest. The thing that got him caught was Pinside. He got away with it for so long as every buyer was isolated and did not know of others or how to sound the alarm as Jonathan dragged them along.

I bet he pays a few to buy time, a trickle payment for a few. Guys like this have no assets. House double, triple mortgaged. Money taken out of the business as soon as possible every month. No reinvestment in materials or other assets to seize.

maybe he took PPE loan or has other scams going he doesn't want exposed like someone else said.

I have no idea what Iceman is getting at. This sounds like SkitB and Dutch all over again with support from random pinsiders who are delusional.

Its not that distributers were in on the scam its the possibility they were selling to Jonathan at a vendor discount or other discount that is not authorized by the manufacture and is breaking their distribution agreement. This is what needs to be researched. Did any distributer break their agreement or knew what Jonathan was doing? If the distributers did nothing wrong then they have nothing to worry about if all information is exposed. I don't understand some Pinsiders (especially icemans) perspective. Ensuring distributers to their agreement minimizes certain types of scammers and scams as the scammers costs would increase.

not only lack of evidence with this but some are still defending him on other points as we don't have proof. I know this, if you have a warehouse and legit business you don't hide assets. Most small businesses would exaggerate their facilities and capabilities not hide them. No evidence of warehouse, trucks, staff, routed games,.... = probability they all don't exist.