Quoted from Haymaker:Care to fill us in on where the many pinball machines you bought from him did come from? I think we're all dying to know if it was shady gray market deals, under the table distributor agreements, or a simple case of robbing Peter to pay Paul. I'm not saying you're wrong here, but this has a lot of similarities to the whole TBL fiasco where it was "please don't press any charges because then nobody gets anything". I want everyone to get what is owed to them, but I also want to see scammers removed from the scene completely.
So far removed from the "TBL fiasco". And last time i checked they are in the process of making everyone whole and building games when all was thought to be lost. So that would be a terrible analogy.
Yes i was in on that game too but got a refund when "Phil gate" happened. I'm just happy for everybody that is finally get taken care of YEARS LATER.
Bill, Brian, Jeb, myself and others know the VERY LONG and full blown story, where we have been and where we are today. Representations and promises made and then NOT kept by Jonathan. I wish i had a dollar for all of the times we discussed litigation, collection attorney's, etc. etc. And now here we are.
I had purchased at least 6 games from him over the last few years, that came from various distributors, and i know plenty of others that received games from him successfully for a long time. Then the wheels began to fall off in late 2019 and early 2020 and Covid provided a dagger to the amusement business amongst many other businesses worldwide. That's no secret.
He got himself in bind and the business went to shit.
A fraudulent POS like SkitB simply comes in and then disappears. A lawsuit is filed, time and money is wasted unless it just simply makes you feel better.
As for "wanting scammers removed from the scene" well he is already REMOVED permanently from the "pinball scene" and is trying to rebuild his amusement operations post Covid.
Will he come through and redeem himself? He has already done so with some people. That's a FACT.
I'm his biggest CREDITOR. Is it reasonable to believe, i know it's hard for some people, that i could possibly have considered ALL of my options over the past year?
Is it possible that i still retain ALL of my potential remedies?
Is it possible that a healthier business that is recovering post Covid has more to go get? Dutch and TBL.
So when all of you judge and criticize, NONE of you are sitting in my seat or the seat of anyone else that is owed money and how it happened or why.
As we have had DOZENS of conversations over the past year between creditors, each and every one has the right to choose his own path.
Threats to his personal well being, his family, his business etc. is simply NOT gonna get it done and nor should it be acceptable.
You think the people that are out money are just plain stupid? That's ok, like i said, i look in the mirror every day and take responsibility for my own actions and ultimately will respond accordingly on MY TERMS and what is best for MYSELF!
Thus, i choose also to NOT partake in this lynch mob cancel culture world that we live in today. Threads like these, once everyone has already said their peace does NOTHING but contribute to further anger, hate and division within the community. So there you go.