Paragon
Bally, 1979I recently swapped out my paragon playfield, and the game plays ok, but there are some phantom scoring issues.
1) At the start of each ball, 50 points are scored before the ball hits the plunger.
2) Other random 50 point scores occur throughout the game, then the sounds don’t line up with the scores.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks,
John
Check the switches on the four star rollovers. One is probably gapped too close, and when there’s a small vibration on the playfield, the switch registers a hit. That would explain the initial 50 points when you launch the ball, and then randomly assigns 50 points the rest of the game.
I couldn’t ever get diagnosis in the switch test. However, I thought that I would like to see if the kick out was shorted somehow, so I placed the machine in the switch test, and dropped the playfield .5” by accident. This caused 34 to pop up.
I looked at 34 for the roll over, blocked it with paper, and redid the slight drop, still showed the 34. Clipped the diode? On the switch, and it still happened. Then I realized that 34 is also over the drop target. I made an adjustment on the switch over the drop target, and I am currently resoldering the diode, and once done I will retest.
More to follow shortly…
I currently have both switches separated with paper, and if I knock on the playfield in the switch test, 34 still shows up. Where should I look for shorts?
Quoted from JWCpinball:I currently have both switches separated with paper, and if I knock on the playfield in the switch test, 34 still shows up. Where should I look for shorts?
There are 3 switches
paragon 34 (resized).pngThank you. It appears that the roll over buttons are sticking. Is there any way to lube them so they move freely?
has the playfield been clearcoated in the past? Just curious as the clearcoat will cause the star rollovers to stick.
they can be removed but it's tricky and not sure if you want to go down that path in case a leg snaps off.
i only mention removing them because they may be built up with grime or similar, but you could try spraying some isopropyl alcohol into the red housing with a rag underneath to catch any muck, or just try some teflon spray. My concern was adding spray onto muck that may make it worse, ideally the inserts and stars want to be clean first.
the other option is to replace the white star rollovers, cut the nub from the underside and use a toothpick or similar to push the star out, clean the red housing and insert new ones?
Might try letting a drop of rubbing alcohol soak into the stem from underneath, move it up and down several times to clean it, then soak up the gunk with a tissue. Maybe doing that a few times. But that's in case the sticking is not in the 'star' pf slots.
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