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Paint lifting and chipping off from playfield

By ForceFlow

8 years ago


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#1 8 years ago

I have a GamePlan Sharpshooter that I just picked up, and started going through it making note of problems.

In one area of the playfield, the paint is lifting and chipping off. I'm sure glad I noticed this before I used my air compress or on it to clean out the dust particles

In any case, what might be the best approach for preventing this area from getting worse?

The whole playfield needs a cleaning, but I was debating whether or not to even touch this area. I might be tempted to gently clean with q-tips, but one wrong move would probably chip off paint. I thought I might just leave it at gently blowing any of the larger particles away from this area and then put down some mylar and without waxing first. I understand this would hamper any possible future restoration attempts, but I couldn't think of any other approaches.

The rest of the playfield artwork looks fine, aside from some typical wear. The problem area is just in that one spot.

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#2 8 years ago

When paint is that flaky and fragile, you will need to lock it down with a layer of clearcoat.

#3 8 years ago

Rats, I was hoping to avoid that. I don't have the equipment or space for clearcoating. Not to mention, I would not look forward to pulling the ball guide rails off the playfield. Plus, there are some pieces of mylar elsewhere on the playfield--you can see one of them in front of the saucer hole in the first photo.

#4 8 years ago

Since the damage is just on that right lane you do have the option of just coating that area. I have done this in a similar situation before using varathane and a brush. It looked great and has held up for years, my friend now owns the game.

#5 8 years ago

Where paint has already lifted a little.. what would you do to prevent clear from getting UNDER it?

#6 8 years ago
Quoted from JoeJet:

Where paint has already lifted a little.. what would you do to prevent clear from getting UNDER it?

And how would the clear press the paint down against the playfield? Wouldn't the paint be left sticking up, even if covered in clear coat?

#7 8 years ago

Yea that would be my concern as you would need to sand it flat potentially through the lifted paint. You can't seran wrap a playfield..

#8 8 years ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

how would the clear press the paint down against the playfield? Wouldn't the paint be left sticking up, even if covered in clear coat?

I agree, you can probably get away with a spot treatment of some sort. At least that's how I would approach it at this point.

From experience with similar situations (but not on pins, yet), it's kind of a judgement call. If the chipping paint wants to lie flat on its own, a good solid continuous overcoat membrane's own weight and tension keeps the paint pressed in place so long as that overcoat is consistent, level, and adhered along all boundaries. Think of it as if you were applying a film of mylar or packing tape: you'd press it flat and everything beneath it holds that way, so long as the edges of the patch tape are solidly adhered.

Actually, for a such a relatively small and inconspicuous area, a piece of mylar might not be a bad idea if you can press the chips flat and burnish them as you apply it. Not a perfect solution, but it would preserve what's there with minimal grief.

Otherwise, I wonder if the backglass trick of Triple-Thick with a plastic-wrap press would work...?

If the paint chips want to curl and rise "at rest" the mylar option becomes much riskier, and either way you're going to have to attack them methodically. You might be able to dribble some clear beneath a chip and press it into place. But that will result in an unlevel surface - again, it's a case-by-case judgement call. In the long run, if the area isn't too large, it might not be so bad to just remove the chips and touch it up altogether.

#9 8 years ago

The clearcoat is watery thin, so it will flow under the chips and help glue them in place.

If this was a super rare game, you could put clear in a syringe and squirt it under the chips and press them down (like you do with insert repair).

#10 8 years ago

Welp, it looks like other areas of the playfield are fairly fragile too.

I tried gently cleaning an area that looked ok, but paint chips came up. *sigh*

I guess I'm going to set this game aside for now until I have clear coating capabilities. I was really looking forward to getting this one up and running too.

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#11 8 years ago

I just had another thought on this--if the artwork is fragile, I probably won't be able to pry out the wire forms from the playfield if I want to clear coat. Hmm...

#12 8 years ago

I'd be more worried about what will happen to the mylared areas when you remove it before clearing. And if the paint is that fragile, ball action will just shred the rest of it regardless. Damned if you do or don't...

Looks like you have a full touch-up project dawning on you, d'oh. But you sound like you're experienced enough to handle it when ready. Good luck...!

#13 8 years ago

You can punch the wireforms out from the back - carefully (in case there are barbs on the ends).

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