Outer Space 1st player scoring issue

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#1 7 years ago

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GREG_O

Inactive member

Charter Township Of Clinton, MI

8y 11,250 4 2

Having an issue with the the 10 and 100 score reels. The 10 score will progress from 0 to 9 as the scoring dictates. When the 10 reel transitions from 9 to 0 the 100 doesn't advance. This only happens on player 1. Player 2 functions correctly. I've checked the 0, 1-8, 9 position switch's. Cleaned contacts and adjusted the gaps. I can manually operate any of the 10's scoring and the score reel advances. It just keeps rolling over with no 100 addition. I've checked the gaps and cleaned the N and M relays. What else am I missing? Could this be a cold solder issue? The game is a barn find I am resurrecting from the dead so I don't know if this issue just started or was always a problem. Got the game 95%. Couple more little issues and it will be fully functioning. Help would me much appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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#2 7 years ago

RM

rolf_martin_062

Inactive member

Aarau

9y 59,550 4,150 14 8

Hi Greg
actually I do not know much about 2-player-games. I have a schema Gottlieb Big Brave. Do You have a schema of Outer Space ?

Look in Your pin when SECOND player is playing -> he makes -> 70 -> 80 -> 90 -> 100 points. See how the (N?)-10-points-relay AND the (M?)-100-points-relay pull in at the same time ?
And so the question - PLAYER-1 makes -> 70 -> 80 -> 90 -> 100 points, question: Does the (M?)-100-points-relay (also) pulls in ?

"Answer 'Yes' would be strange - I assume "Answer No" -> the schema "Big Brave" tells me: When the plunger on a 10-point-score-reel is pulled (to give 10 points) - plunger travels -> at end of travel the plunger closes an (End Of Stroke) Switch. Through THIS closed Switch and the "mounted in-line 9th-position-switch on the Score-Reel: Current flows to (M?)-100-points-relay. And if the switch on "player-1-10-points-score-reel" is dirty or misadjusted or a wire has broken-off a solder-lug: The fault.

(((Want to try ?: Sneak-in a stripe of paper (for insulating the switchblades / keeping apart the switchblades) into E.O.S.Switch (End Of Stroke) Switch on PLAYER-2-10-points-score-reel ? This I advice so You see the fault on PLAYER-2-SCORE-REEL and so You know You look in the right place))). Greetings Rolf

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#3 7 years ago

CJ

Chrisbee

Pinside member

11y 66,150 3,054 8

Lover your work Rolf, just checked to see if you have closed all your brackets... And yes you have.

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#4 7 years ago

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GREG_O

Inactive member

Charter Township Of Clinton, MI

8y 11,250 4 2

I do have a schematic. Another thing I have tried is to manually operate the M and N relays. Same thing. 2 works, 1 doesn't. I'll look at it tonight and see what happens. To be continued. Thanks.

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#5 7 years ago

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Dr_of_Style

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Dallas, TX

9y 28,925 1,334 12

Quoted from Chrisbee:
checked to see if you have closed all your brackets... And yes you have.

Rolf, were you a school teacher in another life?

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#6 7 years ago

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rolf_martin_062

Inactive member

Aarau

9y 59,550 4,150 14 8

Hi Chrisbee and Dr_of_Style
my father was a teacher - I was a programmer in Cobol and PL/1 until the Swiss Companies have found out: "Maintenance done in India is 30 percent cheaper" ...
Here in the forum the Newbies ask the questions - I try to avoid conversations as: http://1funny.com/farmer-wants-a-divorce/
How about asking "Is the Switch on Lock-Relay gapped loose so a latched G.O-Relay trips when You toggle-on ?" ? Greetings Rolf