Id like to know the innovation in WOZ? If you say the tv in the backbox its been done RFM and better. The color changing inserts were done by stern first. After that?

OMG.... I'd preorder a Buckethead pin before seeing the prototype pics. Have JJP make it so the screen in the backglass has the chickens getting decapitated like they show at his concerts

But then an equal number of Mystics would also die...this game would have to be more about balance.

doesn't take much to stray off topic to bash jjp around here, does it. lol.

Are people seriously having trouble separating the theme from the technology used in the game? There aren't many things that resonate less with me than Wizard Of Oz, but the game is stunning.

Pinball will always involve some looking backward. A pinball machine is an old-timey mechanical thing and nostalgia is an integral part of why most people love it.

I'll take the zero

Some is one thing. But when every music themed machine is based on bands that were in their prime 30+ years ago, and they continue to license movie themes from a bygone era instead of making any new original themes, then pinball has stagnated into it's own death sentence.

But then again, even the movies are rehashes of old stuff

No
My point was that for me to spend top dollar on a game, I want innovation, not a whole lit ofexpensive toys that do not interact with the ball
I love the bowling alley in TBL, but is it a feature that could have been done cheaperand justas effective as an LCD mounted under the playfield?

The problem with movie themes is that pinball machines used to be in arcades at malls, with movie theatres, so they functioned as a form of advertisement for up and coming movies... Now they are sold to consumers, so manufactures are only willing to produce ones with an established fan base... Manufactures need to start negotiating down licensing fees for new movies, work directly with route operators, and be able to produce machines around the $5k price point

You want a "classic theme" that will sell. Married with Children Pinball............
I would save my pennies to buy that one!

I'll take a "No Ma'am" LE

Would you pay $10k for any pinball..
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Could I theoretically pay 10k for a pin, yep. Do I want to spend 10k on a pin, nope... not at all.

None!

I am out of the pricing over 6000ish! Sorry, I don't care how cool the game is 10k is just insane! It better include an all expense vacation to Hawaii at that price point!

The only one of these that would make me scramble for a way to come up with the $$$ would be Army of Darkness. I don't say this often at all, but I wouldn't care if the game was a dud, I would still have to have it. At a more realistic price point, I would be interested in Jaws, then Big Trouble in that order. Those would also be hard to pass up.

None, that's too expensive for one machine!!! I'll take 2 pros or 3 good older pins.

I honesty do not think the demographic you are looking for even exists. Not in the numbers needed to sustain a 10k price point. Don't give me "Hobbit & TBL" those are not proven success yet.

You are probably looking at the top demographic right here on Pinside......and the mojority is not saying no.....but Hell No!

My #1 theme would be The Matrix. I can afford 10k. I would not pay 10k for The Matrix or any pin.....period. I'd probably be out on The Matrix at anything past 7k and I'm out on anything past 6k on anything else. Although Alien might have an outside shot.......Oh.....and I'm never Pre-Ordering.

I don't think I fit the target demographic. In fact, I'm sure of it.

Army of Darkness ,,, but I Don't want 2 pay 10K for any Pin .. Pin's R High Enough now !!

It needs to be a theme that can not only stand the test of time but also have a wide appeal. IMO the only theme you listed that fits both of those requirements is Muppets. There's lots of humor possibilities with the theme as well as many simple solenoid pin-a-matronic possibilities with it for mouth movement and hand motions.

Lets not give them any ideas, the JJP website has it listed at $9K

As for the original post, only Jaws would even tempt me, but a $10K US game would roughly be almost $13500 CDN by the time I had it home, not going to happen!!

Some of those are good titles but I would rather built my own with a company for that amount letting me design and create everything for my one game.

Alien is such a great theme! preorder is bullshit!

Really. I can get a complete Roush 427, dyno tested and certified 520hp for 14.6k. I'll take the motor.

Yeah......for games that don't even exist yet.
I swear, some of you guys either have way too much cash laying around or you just like gambling with the funds you do have to get into a game from a startup that is 15K+. But more power to you if you have the stomach for it and can afford it I guess. That's crazy talk imo but what do I know.

But back on topic:
There is not a game on this planet that would get me to spend 10K. Not a single one. I simply don't need toys that are that expensive. My current limit is 6K and even then, I want it totally complete with code and have the ability to play multiple times so that I know I like it. And to be honest there are only like 3-4 games that I'd even spend that much on and I already own two of them.

Now out of the titles you mentioned, I'd love to play your 10K Jaws or AOD.
Cheers!

Or more resourceful. I just funded about 85% of my first NIB purchase by selling a pin I spent 6 months on restoring. I never thought I'd be able to afford a NIB, but I found a way.

The only passion in pinball I'm seeing lately is for nostalgia. I can get all the nostalgia I need with the older machines. At a fraction of the price.

None at any price as those themes don't interest me. Harry Potter is the only theme I would consider at that price point.

NONE 10,000 for a pin is a joke .

I clicked on Army of darkness before realizing none would be my real choice at 10k. So, AOD would be my gun to the head choice.

I doubt I'll ever pay $10k for any NIB pin, regardless of theme.

Clearly you'd get a better response to this poll without the $10k thing. You say you're looking for a certain demographic...irrelevant. Interest in a theme shouldn't be attached to a nonsensical theoretical price. We're all pinball fans here and some of us pay NIB Stern Pro/Prem/LE prices or JJP prices...or even Dutch prices. None of them are $10k.

According to your list of themes, it went out the window when The Jeffersons were still on.

It's your thread, so...do what you want. You really should have a "None" option. I like any number of those themes, but not at that price.

Some people might just be voting for the theme they like just for fun. They prob still wouldn't buy it at 10k

No hesitation on my part, saw the titles and went right to post. 10k no way.

Yeah.....you're still not getting it. Almost no one will pay 10k for a pinball machine regardless of the theme. Does not matter what you do with the playfield and "toys", art, display......etc.....

This is a game. The number of people willing to shell out 10k for ANY pin is very, very small. You're literally talking a few hundred people.......in the world.

You would have seen a much better response (and what you wanted) if you had said 6-7k.

Muppets and Army of Darkness are almost a dead tie for me.

I would love to add either if the theme is well done.

Jpop is at best a questionable gamble. Best case scenario you wind up with a $20k game after years worth of layaway, worst case you wind up with nothing. Considering there are so few other $20k games in the world, what's to say this will be one? JPop is also losing money making this game... it's an unsustainable business model, so lets not pretend that is a valid market price.