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#10485 1 year ago

E...A...G...L...E...S.....Eagles!!!!! Suck it Brady. That's what happens when before the game you're interviewed, and you say "Well they can try to win."

And then Brady leaves the field without shaking the hand of Foles. What a pompous ass.

#10507 1 year ago
Quoted from o-din:

I will say the Patriots played a very clean game as they were only penalized once for 5 yards.

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#10510 1 year ago
Quoted from Mfsrc791:

Congrats to the eagles they played a great game and congrats to Nick foles who played his heart out and deserves the win.

Thanks.

Quoted from fosaisu:

and he had a hell of a game (doesn't hurt to have Gronk receiving, but still), so you can't hang the loss on him.

Without Gronk, who cleared the concussion protocol faster than any player I've ever seen, Brady would have had 150 less passing yards, and the Eagles would have won by a greater score. But I'm glad Gronk was in...makes the victory that much sweeter.

Quoted from 85vett:

Someone posted about him not shaking hands with Foles. I couldn't tell if he did or didn't but if that is true that's a damn shame. Someone of his caliber with his resume should have more class. Again, I don't know if he did or didn't. Timing of them showing him run off the field gave plenty of time to find a few choice players, shake their hands and run off.

Foles said in his post game interview that Brady left the field without shaking his hand. But being a good guy, Foles said it "was probably because there was so much going on." Ummm, no. Brady is a great QB who gets great protection from his O-line, but he is still conceded, cocky, arrogant and doesn't exhibit great sportsmanship, which are undesirable characteristics in any human being.

#10512 1 year ago
Quoted from Asael:

watched the game like every year with a few friends and this time someone suggested a drinking game: One Shot for every kick, punt and fieldgoal!

Here's what I was going by before the game started.

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#10515 1 year ago

Here's what I watched 20 times before the game yesterday. It's enough to start watching it at the 3:00 mark.

#10525 1 year ago
Quoted from Erik:

Collinsworth even commented Brady's hand may be troubling him.

Collinsworth is a huge D bag. Why they would have a guy with a known (and publicly admitted) disdain for the Eagles commentate on the Superbowl when the Eagles are in it is beyond me. He has nothing good to say about the Birds no matter how good or hard they play. He makes excuses for every other team, and his narration / commentary is extraordinarily one-sided. I must have yelled "oh, shut the hell up" at the TV 45 times yesterday while he was talking. I would have rather had Romo do the game. Even as a former Cowboy...he's at least objective.

#10529 1 year ago

They just posted a pic of Brady after the Super Bowl yesterday.

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#10566 1 year ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Haha is a HUGE deal to people in a lot of sports...it hilarious. People around here still cry aboot the Penguins celebrating for too long after winning the Stanley Cup before shaking hands.

Either way, that's why hockey is great. Everybody shakes everybody's hand at the end to congratulate them on the victory.

Quoted from CrazyLevi:

I really couldn't care less. Not sure how Brady shaking or not shaking someone's hand really affects me or anybody else in the universe.

It's a big deal because it's respect…and Brady thinks he is the best and above that. Foles deserved it. The fact that he makes a habit of it speaks volumes. He is a sore loser period. How many of the greats, Marino, Favre, Elway, other than Manning once, had a reputation for disrespecting their fellow player? Even the Pats fans in here are saying it was wrong he didn't.

#10568 1 year ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

So you’d LIKE Brady if he shook hands with Foles?

I actually think he's a great quarterback, and yes, I would LIKE him better if he reciprocated respect amongst his fellow players. His lack of sportsmanship is something that will be remembered. Will it make any difference for him getting into the HOF? Probably not.

Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Everybody hates him already so what’s the difference.

If I were him, I would want to go down in history as the respectful and liked GOAT, not the GAOAT (Greatest Ass Of All Time). So you'll be the best that nobody in the league other than your fans liked? Makes the accomplishment less in my book, but who really cares about what I think.

You and I had some words in the past....then we met at Pinfest, SHOOK HANDS, and did some shots. Respect.

Quoted from CrazyLevi:

And if I were an eagles fan I REALLY wouldn’t care, I’d probably still be drunk!

That I don't doubt a bit.

#10642 1 year ago
Quoted from Rondogg:

Brady
17 Years, 15 DivChamp, 12 AFCCG, 8 SB Trips, 5 Titles, 4 SB MVPs, 3 NFL MVPs, 66k yards, 488 TDs
vs. Montana
16 Years, 10 DivChamp, 8 NFCCG, 4 SB Trips, 4 Titles, 3 SB MVPs, 2 NFL MVPs, 40k yards, 273 TDs
What are you using as a comparison?

The difference too is back when Montana played, quarterbacks actually got hit repetitively....hell, you were able to hit a player hard in general. Brady has great protection from his O line, and you can't deny that is a big part of his success.

I am curious how he would've held up over the years if he was taking some of the big hits quarterbacks of the past used to take, or at least as many. In his new Atkins shape, I'm not sure he would hold up well.

#10683 1 year ago
Quoted from o-din:

Wade Wilson was an awesome QB.

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#10726 1 year ago

Watched some of that game last night. This “not lowering your helmet” rule is going to be a big pain in the ass this year. You can tell there will be a bunch of calls on various hits already.

Do they realize that somebody has to lower their head to lead with their shoulder? Here comes flag football.

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#10737 1 year ago

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#10740 1 year ago

Wentz will be back by the second game. Foles can play, but I think the preseason issue was all around. If you look at the scores, and the fact that the players’ union has already been saying for two years that they want to get rid of the preseason. I think players on every team tanked in the last few weeks this year on purpose to make it look like preseason games are pointless.

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#10742 1 year ago
Quoted from Rondogg:

Yeah but I'm not sure 2 extra regular season games is a good idea...

It’s a fine idea, and those who gamble would probably agree. Besides, these guys make more than enough money to play two more games. I don’t want to hear about the wear on their bodies. They can play five years and retire. In what other profession can you do that?

Plus they don’t play during the preseason anymore, and they practice through OTA’s and training camps with nothing but shorts on. No pads. They are a bunch of divas.

At one time, guys played for a lot less money and played much harder, and they wore leather friggin helmets.

#10746 1 year ago

Yes, the American dream. Argue that you want $20 million more a year in salary to do less work.

Each can speak to their own. But I’ll tell you what… I would take the possibility of a career ending injury for $20 million a year and play 20 regular season games for five years, and be able to retire by the time I’m 35. Even though I’m already 41. Shit, I would take that risk for $3 million a year, and I would do so without all the attitude and drama.

Back to actual football teams, the Rams are going nowhere this year. Goff and Gurley are absolute animals, but unfortunately the Rams will have enough drama in their locker room to keep them busy for the season.

#10748 1 year ago

I do know how NFL salary structures and rookie contracts work, but I’m not sure you do.

Pursuant to the 2018 NFL Compensation, Salary & Incentives Update, “the four-year minimum base salaries for players in this year's draft are as follows: $480,000 (Year 1), $555,000 (Year 2), $630,000 (Year 3) and $705,000 (Year 4). If eventually signed to a contract, each rookie drafted will get a four-year deal, whereas undrafted rookies are only eligible for three-year contracts.” So I’m not sure where you came up with 365K plus and 10K more per year. (My firm also does sports and entertainment law, and I just got done reviewing a contract of one of the Giants players a month or so ago).

And that is only base salary. Beginning in 2012, rookies also became eligible for certain performance-based incentives.

The reality is only 38% of rookies are on the field for every game of their first season in the NFL. In their second year, that only goes up to 72% (obviously unless you are one of the top 10 draft picks, a quarterback, or star receiver).

Beside the fact, my hypothetical was based upon a player who most likely proved themself, and was now making a decent payday. Either way, I would still assume whatever risks they have to make their paycheck and be able to retire 30 years early. If anybody wants to argue that today’s NFL players are not divas, they must not be watching the same NFL that I watch. That’s just my opinion, and everybody is entitled to their own.

#10751 1 year ago
Quoted from vicjw66:

You’re way off Colson. Most players don’t make millions. The average NFL career is less than 4 years. And half of it goes to taxes.

Ok. I’m wrong, as is every resource. And the majority of players that would be at the highest risk for injury are those that make the big money, as they play the most and are usually the players that are getting hit more often. I was not talking about practice squad guys or fourth stringers. Their risk of significant injury is substantially lower.
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#10753 1 year ago
Quoted from vicjw66:

Check out median salaries. Those numbers are skewed by the handful of players per team making 20 million a year.

I made a few comments, I wasn’t looking to get into a pissing contest about how much money athletes make. We all know they are well paid for what they actually do. I mean come on, they don’t work for five months out of the year other than working out and watching what they eat. And you are not figuring in other bonuses, appearance fees, and all the kickbacks they get that I read in contracts.

The fellas that built the Empire State Building made $2.50 an hour, and they had a much higher risk of injury. Several of them died.

#10756 1 year ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

“nfl players are overpaid divas”

Quoted from vicjw66:

I have a theory about the type of people who have this distorted thinking of taking the owners side over the players. It’s rooted in hundreds of years of tradition. I doubt they’re thinking of Rodgers and Brady when they are talking about spoiled overpaid players. More likely Kaepernick and Sherman.

Let’s be clear because you are now throwing a racial connotation into this thread. I said NOTHING about owners deserving any money and Levi’s quote was nowhere in any of my posts.

I was merely saying that they are divas compared to the players of the past, and make enough money to play two more games a year, especially if their intention is to do away with the preseason games. And if you implore that intention, the reality is they would actually be playing 2 less games per year.

Just wanted to clear that up, and certainly don’t want people twisting my words around. I wouldn’t appreciate somebody that doesn’t know me in any way insinuating that I exhibit any level of racism whatsoever. And I made no such comments.

This thread is about football, and a friendly discussion. Let’s not turn it into some trainwreck.

#10757 1 year ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Not sure why anybody thinks nfl players don’t deserve their pay.

That is not what I said at all. I said for the amount of money they make, I believe they can play two more games per year. That simple.

#10761 1 year ago
Quoted from Rondogg:

then you are an idiot. No offense of course.

Real nice. As if saying “no offense” somehow negates you calling me an idiot. It’s called a discussion, but I guess no one’s opinion matters other than yours.

And whether a game is meaningful or not, injuries still happen during preseason. The potential for injury is there regardless. Plenty of former players have indicated that they believe injuries are more prominent now because players don’t bother to practice the way they used to, and don’t play in preseason the way they used to in order to condition their bodies. But what do they know? They are just former NFL players themselves.

#10764 1 year ago
Quoted from vicjw66:

I'm speaking of my own past experiences.

I can appreciate that.

Quoted from vicjw66:

And to say that you don't exhibit any level of racism whatsoever is disingenuous. All human beings innately have some level of racism.

Surprise. I disagree. As a premise, everybody may realize that someone is “different.” Whether it be color, language spoken, or any other factor. A claim that everybody is “racist” on some level is utterly ridiculous. Do I realize that one of my coworkers is a different color? Sure. Do I treat them any differently? No. I judge every human based on their behavior and the way they conduct themselves. Nothing else matters.

I do appreciate you clarifying your position. But let’s not turn this into any type of political or society discussion unless we want the mods to step in.

Back on point of the thread, does anybody think the Patriots will go the distance this year? Or is their run spent? My feeling is that their dynasty has run its course. Reality is you never know with Brady at the helm though.

#10795 1 year ago

Just a few flags in that game last night....

That was utterly ridiculous. And then some missed calls where they should’ve been and were clearly penalties, and others called when they shouldn’t have been at all.

Sad to see that the refs left off exactly where they were last year. Killing the pace of the game unnecessarily and repetitiously.

#10797 1 year ago
Quoted from mcluvin:

When not if, will Sarkisian be fired? Jay Ajayi is bad ass.

Yeah, given their struggles last year and now obviously continuing into this season, Sarkisian should go. Falcons stats in the red zone are horrendous. They have no problem getting down there though.

Because they have Julio Jones (well, that’s all they really have) they try way too many pass plays within the 5 yard line. They need to learn how to run the ball in. Especially with the new rule that the defender can force the jumper out of bounds.

#10798 1 year ago

And Ajayi is bad ass. Dan Marino even said so on a WIP interview yesterday, but he wouldn’t offer why Miami dumped him now that Marino is in their front office.

#10801 1 year ago

AP’s knees are spent. I’m sure they feel better with Smith at the helm, but some actually prefer Cousins. Skins are gonna go 8-8.

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#10804 1 year ago
Quoted from mcluvin:

Show me a better RB1/2 combo.

Ajayi & Clement, or interchange Sproles into the mix. Freeman and Coleman definitely have the talent, but they're not utilized correctly.

#10819 1 year ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

And the skins didn’t look like an 8-8 team last night. I know it’s nice to get your first ring (I think I was 7 when the skins got theirs ) but don’t fool yourself into believing the birds are some unbeatable dynasty all of a sudden. A different team wins the nfc east every year no reason to think it won’t be different in 2018.

They didn’t look like an 8-8 team last night. I’ll give you that. I think they are definitely more stacked this year.

As to the Birds, are you related to Collinsworth? My team can’t even get due credit when they win a friggin Super Bowl, let alone with a back up quarterback (who did nothing with KC or the Rams before coming back here) and against the damn Patriots.

I never said they were “some unbeatable dynasty”, but Foles is so up-and-down that once Wentz comes back it will be a completely different story, assuming he stays healthy. He was slated to be the MVP last year, and would’ve had a ridiculous record-setting season had he finished it out.

#10825 1 year ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

I just got opinions

We are all aware of that.

Watching the games tonight, looks like Matt Patricia shouldn’t have left New England, and the Jets are going to end up with a better record than the Giants.

#10829 1 year ago
Quoted from wolverinetuner:

Another interception ... Maybe make that 2 years

Yeah, I think Stafford threw 4 picks. Not a good night for him. His only thought tonight “I miss Megatron.”

#10851 1 year ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Redskins sure didn’t look like an 8-8 teAm today!

Yeah, and the Eagles did. We’ll see what happens by the end of the season. Good luck.

#10853 1 year ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

I miss me some DeSean Jackson. Yeah you get like 10 games a year due to injury or lack of motivation but he’s fast and his ball awareness and hands are fantastic.

Yeah, I’ll never forget Miracle at the Meadowlands II. Miss him on the Birds too. He tries to average a big play once every game, maybe two if he’s lucky. Not frequently used, but his speed and ball awareness are uncanny. Shoved it in my ass on the first play.

#10866 1 year ago
Quoted from VectorGamer:

Carson Wentz to start week 3

Damn right....but a shame he has absolutely nobody to catch the ball right now other than Agholor. WR core is just a little light.

Quoted from TheLaw:

He's the most talented WR in the league...

I thought that was the blond-haired narcissistic obnoxious guy...ehhh, I mean Beckham Jr.

#10881 1 year ago

Baker friggin Mayfield. Holy shit. Looks like Taylor is out of a job.

#10888 1 year ago
Quoted from mcluvin:

Tyrod Taylor was the best player on my fantasy team last night, then Mayfield went and ruined it.

Not sure who your back up is, but if I were you I would start looking at the waiver wire.

If they try putting Taylor back in, even if he’s not injured and healthy, I don’t think the fans will have it at this point. The crowd went nuts when they put Mayfield in the game. After watching the rest myself, I could see why. That guy has a damn cannon and is accurate as hell.

#10890 1 year ago
Quoted from dirtbag66:

He is your starting QB?!? How many teams are in your fantasy league? 32?!?

Haha. He severely overslept on draft day.

#10894 1 year ago

Wentz baby! And the D stepped up early.

#10896 1 year ago
Quoted from mcluvin:

Bills 24 Vikings 0?

Yeah, I’m not understanding what’s going on in that game. Freakin weird.

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#10905 1 year ago
Quoted from RWH:

The roughing the passer calls are going to cost teams some games no doubt. NFL claims most of the calls up until now were correct....BS! More like most were absolutely horseshit period.

Yeah, and they also said that they weren’t going to make calls that decided a game at the end. I guess the Eagles werent part of that consideration.

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#10916 1 year ago

I hear ya Spencer. The Eagles game was a similar shitshow with questionable calls by Pederson at various stages of the game. Including challenging Diggs’ catch on the sideline where he clearly took 3 steps before going out. No idea who called down or what the hell he was thinking there.

Eagles defense this year is atrocious.

#10920 1 year ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

If the Seahawks didn't call a time out for no particular reason (and wouldn't that time out - their LAST - been good to save for their final drive), they likely would have gotten the ball back.

That’s definitely the rationale the way I see it. Maybe they were trying to ice the punter?

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#10996 11 months ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

No my life is great, it's the cowboys that suck. The Cowboys have been horrible for a long time and I have no idea why so much hype is given to them; they've won like 1 playoff game in the last 10 years.
We're also probably the same age and there wasn't any trolling involved so I'm guessing you're super fucking high? Which is cool, but I'm at work.

Can I attend your next sermon? Amen.

#11012 11 months ago

Man, I am really trying to stick it out this year, but the Eagles look like absolute shit. No idea what they are thinking on some of these plays. Wentz is getting zero protection, and the O line looks disgusting. They need to get a grip.

Luckily the D is holding them in this one.

#11014 11 months ago
Quoted from Rondogg:

Super Bowl hangover?

Yeah, I’m about sick of hearing that theory. Hangovers last a day or two, not a few months. And I also don’t like hearing that “they only had two months off”. Even if you do physical labor for a living, if you had two months off, you should feel very friggin refreshed coming back to work.

I’m starting to think it’s more once some teams go all the way and got the ultimate trophy, they feel like they accomplished all they have to do. Unlike the Patriots, who don’t hang any of that crap from the prior year at their practice facility, and want to win it EVERY single year...and play like it.

#11016 11 months ago
Quoted from boscokid:

Hungry Dogs Run Faster. This current Eagles team has been feasting like kings since last February

LMAO. I’m feeling better in the second half. It looks like much more effort is there. And I think Mills has been hurting the team, so I’m not upset at all that he’s taking a break.

He’s too handsy...like a ton of guys in the league.

#11042 11 months ago
Quoted from VectorGamer:

Last night was the shittiest regular season game I've watched in quite some time

That was beyond painful. They could have stopped after the 3rd quarter...the Raiders had already. On a more positive note, Eagles should look golden next week.

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#11319 10 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Fuck no. They finish 8-8. They are not a good team. Don’t let way-harder-than-they-should-have-been wins against a terrible giants team and a redskins team that is basically a hospice fool you.
Vikings should get to 9 wins and they’ll have it locked up.

What a surprise...you offering positivity on the Birds.

Quoted from vicjw66:

I keep feeling that the Eagles are going to pull it together these last few weeks. The talent is there.

A sensical post. I’ll admit I’m not the most optimistic today, but if they do beat the Cowgirls there will be hope that the run continues. Eagles could easily end up with 9 wins.

Vikings can always lose a game at the last minute…they did it last year but I can’t remember which team did it in the playoffs. Oh wait...

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#11321 10 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

But look at the eagles schedule and tell me they finish better than 8-8.

Certainly:

Dallas - win
Rams- loss
Texans - win
Redskins - win

Worst case scenario...9-7. Which is better than 8-8.

#11323 10 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Eagles will not beat the Texans.

Cake walk.

#11325 10 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

This redskins giants game is the worst 5 minutes of football I’ve seen. Dropped passes, flags, three and outs...

I know...I just walked away from the tube. What a mess.

#11327 10 months ago

Come on Dee! Where’s the brotherly love?

#11333 10 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

This redskins giants game is the worst 5 minutes of football I’ve seen. Dropped passes, flags, three and outs...

And you thought that game was bad. The Eagles look disgusting right now, and this game is equally not entertaining.

#11338 10 months ago

What a sad display. Birds deserved to lose that one, but that bullshit call on Goedert cost them the game.

Totally incidental contact. No way that was friggin offensive pass interference. And I like how the refs try to make up for their bullshit call by giving the Eagles some arbitrary crappy roughing the passer penalty yardage. Like that makes up for costing them 7 points.

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#11556 10 months ago
Quoted from vicjw66:

Are you kidding? I’ve been seeing Rams jerseys all over town and stickers on the backs of cars everywhere.

You’ll be seeing a lot of green jerseys out there tonight! Up on the the rooftop click click click...

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#11570 10 months ago
Quoted from vicjw66:

Eagles fans last year at the coliseum were the most obnoxious I have ever seen. Us Rams fans are a little too nice. If they tried that shit at a Raiders game there would be massive beat downs.

Here we go with the “Eagles fans are obnoxious” and might as well rehash the throwing snowballs at Santa Claus bullshit for the 20th time, even though it happened 40 years ago.

Eagles fans are no more obnoxious than any other team’s, well maybe LA Rams are an exception. Nobody out there likes football, and they go just because it’s an activity to do. The Raiders wouldn’t even have so many fans if NWA didn’t support their gear and they didn’t sell 45 million Starter jackets back in the 90s.

There are fights and idiot fans in every stadium. People have been shot at a Raiders game (that never happened at the Linc), and at the Jets game a year or two ago some guy punched some girl in the face for taunting him. Knocked her out cold.

As evidenced in this thread, every team has Fairweather fans. We all think our teams suck when they’re doing bad, and we all think they are the greatest thing since sliced bread when they are on a run.

I’d like to see what games would be like if they removed alcohol from the equation.

At least we all hate Dallas right?

#11572 10 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Unlike 1991, I did not see any giant cups of beer or stuff like hot dogs flying through the air. Nobody threatened to beat me up or "slash our tires" (which had me worried until my dad pointed out that they probably didn't know which car was ours), and a Philly cop did not scowl at me and tell me (a 15 year old), "Fuck the Redskins!"

That is total BS. Somebody threatening to slash your tires and a cop saying Fuck the Redskins? Coming from someone that lives in NYC...safest city in the world. That’s why every Law & Order show is based there.

I’ve also read Aesop’s Fables. Fairy tales are awesome.

#11574 10 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

It's still the worst crowd I've ever seen at a football game. But hey if you want to believe that Philly fans have always been as tame as they are now in their old age, I'm not gonna argue with you. You like fairy tales after all!

Your story is funny, and I don’t discount that some part of it happened. I don’t think they are more tame, I just think they are no different than fans at most stadiums. Maybe slightly worse. Back at the Vet...a little more unruly.

My take is that when it happens here, it is more publicized. And I think other people around the country mistake obnoxiousness for passion. Unlike some other places around the country, we are not shy in voicing our opinions, and sometimes in a vulgar manner.

#11577 10 months ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

Wait, are you arguing both sides of this one now?!?

Not at all. Saying that’s all it is, voicing opinions. Some people are offended when others do that, or consider it “obnoxious”. I call it being a fan. Nothing more, nothing less. I do often forget that fans in other stadiums don’t curse at all.

Like I said before, are some fans here idiots? Sure. But there are some in every stadium.

And the posts above actually prove my point. I cite fans actually getting shot at another team’s stadium in a “debate”, and another one getting knocked out cold. Not one comment about that.

They gloss right over all the other shit, which is much more serious, unacceptable violent behavior. But Eagles fans...no no no.

Levi can have his cheerleaders and upvotes. I’ll sit here with my ring. At least the Birds saved it from being on the hands of the Pats again.

#11578 10 months ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

How come NOBODY is talking about the big Bengals win yesterday? Who Dey Baby!

Driskel’s 14 for 33 for 130 yards? I wonder what would have happened without Mixon. It’s still a W...so I guess it counts!

#11581 10 months ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

He has nobody to throw to lol. The whole team ia hurt almost. I thought about you this morning Colsond. I was watching American Grafitti and saw an old Dracula pinball machine like you got. I love that movie!

Yeah, admittedly he doesn’t have many people to throw to. At least good targets.

And that’s funny. I remember someone had posted a screenshot of Vamp in American Grafitti in my restoration thread. Great flick.

#11585 10 months ago

Cam really screwed the pooch on that throw.

#11586 10 months ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

AFC North standings: Steelers beat Patriots; Bengals only team in division eliminated from playoffs
Just a guess.

Dude...you can’t change your avatar.

#11591 10 months ago
Quoted from vicjw66:

Philly transplant fans are slightly worse than Seahawk transplants.

Yeah, I don’t really see Philly fans hitting it LA style....early a.m. trip to Disney, then cruising up the 5 to the Odyssey for shrimp tartare, up the 405 to an oxygen bar, getting some Starbucks then heading to the game.

Actually, traffic out there would prevent any chronology of those lovely events from happening. So tailgating and booze it is! (equaling bad or less than desirable behavior, or misplacing trash under the wrong seat)

#11613 9 months ago

Let’s go Birds! If 243 things play out exactly the way they have to, I can still make the playoffs.

#11614 9 months ago

What complete bullshit that facemask wasn’t called on that scumbag Clowney throwing Foles down by his mask. Protecting players...right. The NFL is a fucking joke with no flag on that at all. Clowney should be ejected from the game.

#11616 9 months ago
Quoted from Erik:

242 to go?
They're a fun team. I'd like to watch them in the playoffs, and moreso with Foles than Wentz TBH.

Yeah, I love a good nailbiter, but having every game be like that is beyond stressful.

#11633 9 months ago
Quoted from Daditude:

Im just thankful my Cowboys have clinched the division.
Of course, if philly gets eliminated...that would be a stockibg stuffer.

Stockibg’s must be a Texas thing. “America’s Team”...I like how they try to keep that alive. I live in America, and they aren’t my team.

That title would actually be more appropriately bestowed upon upon the Eagles, given that the United States actually started here and it served as the capital from 1790 - 1800.

#11636 9 months ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

It depends.
If you're from the small town of Langhorne that seems pretty 'Merican to me.
If you're claiming Phili then

Haha...smart ass. Langhorne is a whopping 22 miles outside of Philadelphia. In my life, I have lived in the city and worked there. Down there frequently for dinner, games and events (and parades).

So saying I’m “from Philly” is nowhere near a stretch. Besides, you need a house in the suburbs if you want to collect pins.

#11655 9 months ago

Back to the playoffs baby!!!

Signed,
A Guy from the Philly suburbs

#11673 9 months ago

Boooooo. I’m feeling 28-21 Birds victory...even if Sudfeld is playing.

#11677 9 months ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

I'd pick the Saints but Russel Wilson never surprises me, he could pull it off.

I’d almost agree with that, but Russell hasn’t had the same surprise come back power that he’s had in previous years.

#11692 9 months ago
Quoted from RWH:

Marvin Lewis may be the best available.

That is sad. Mackadoo is available.

#11708 9 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

I have a hard time believing the Eagles are just gonna waltz into Chicago and "neutralize Mack."

I don’t think they will waltz right in, it may be more of a salsa dance?

Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Foles has to turn back into a pumpkin at some point, right?

He will, after he has another ring on his finger.

#11725 9 months ago
Quoted from Dee-Bow:

Home team wins all 4 this weekend

I say home teams win 3/4.

#11728 9 months ago
Quoted from WolfManCat:

Just saw hurns leg break
Wishing for a speedy recovery.

Yeah, that was nasty. Garrett really does never talk into his headset. It’s odd.

#11730 9 months ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

What time do the Bengals play?

Early next August...1:00pm

#11733 9 months ago

Don’t even. Haha. The whole first half of that game was a snoozefest. If that’s all Dallas has, they are definitely not advancing past the next round.

The only game plan you need against them: Stop Elliot. It’s one friggin guy that accounts for 70% of their total offensive yards.

#11740 9 months ago
Quoted from Dee-Bow:

i dunno, I'd say the D shut down the hawks offense all game! #19 made some plays in the 4th too.. and how many draw plays did #4 call for himself.. I think Dak outplayed Russell for sure.. got a lil scary at the end tho, sure glad their old man kicker pulled a hammy!

Yeah, but the D on the Hawks held the Cowgirls to barely any points the whole first half. Their offense should’ve stepped up and helped out, and put some points up then.

#11744 9 months ago
Quoted from Daditude:

Time to eat crow, guys....

I’ll just wait for the wager to even out once the Birds take out the Bears. One hour till game time!!

#11749 9 months ago

Damn...Maddox would have had a pick 6 if he came back a 1/2 second earlier

#11760 9 months ago

Good call on the interference. He was more handsy than a...well, it looked like he was actually trying to hold his hand.

#11761 9 months ago

TD! Eagles were shooting themselves in the foot in the first half, it’s time for the Bears to.

#11766 9 months ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

Sure is an entertaining one!

I think I’m gonna have a fucking heart attack.

#11767 9 months ago

Holy Fuck!!!!!

#11773 9 months ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

Pretty sure we are getting a new kicker, lol

Is it ironic or cliché that you got him from us?

#11789 9 months ago
Quoted from Spencer:

They wont beat the Saints at home. No chance.

This game just proved that in the NFL anything can happen. Foles is gonna repeat.

#11790 9 months ago
Quoted from Jodester:Oh, and we already beat the Eagles 48 to 7 at home.

I predict 31-24. Birds.

#11793 9 months ago
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#11798 9 months ago
Quoted from Spencer:

I agree with that statement but its not the same. The Bears have very little offense and a garbage QB. Hey, who knows, I've got my gear ready and cant wait to watch the game.

I’m not cracking that open just yet. Eager for the game. We’ll have to wait and see. I think I’m going to put together a small pin tournament before next game.

Quoted from Erik:

the team with the starting QB with the higher passer rating wins outright 80% of the time. That favors Chiefs, Rams, Chargers, and Saints.

Interesting stat. It will be cool for me to add to the 20%.

#11824 9 months ago
Quoted from whthrs166:

So what about that crazy incomplete pass call? (Bears game) It was reviewed and still they couldn't get it right! I think they purposely ruled it incomplete just so the game could move on. Chicago was duped by the officials. What a rotten call! The officiating this year has been terrible. Face masks, helmet to helmet blows that were right in front of the officials. Really frustrating to watch blown calls (even after a review) determine the outcome of a game!

I couldn’t agree more. I don’t want to hear anything about player safety next season. Refs blow calls right in front of their face. Like Foles getting ripped down by his face mask last game. Ref was 20 feet away and no call. I saw it from 900 miles away on my TV screen.

Same thing happened Saturday when one of the Cowboys ripped down Russell Wilson by his helmet. No call. Ridiculous.

#11829 9 months ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

Hope you’re prepared to EAT CROW if they lose.

Here’s a precursor for you Daditude! Come on...you know the words

#11834 9 months ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

well, I mean you tried for a few hours at least... lol

Quoted from vicjw66:

I contend that, that was not a dick post.

You two going to get a room anytime soon?

#11837 9 months ago
Quoted from Daditude:

Im still waiting on a slew of other people to admit tbey were wrong about the Cowboys...
Wonder when that will happen??

I’ll admit I was wrong...if you admit that you watched the Fly Eagles Fly video I posted above and sang along with it as it played.

#11842 9 months ago
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#11862 9 months ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

THey both can put up a ton of points, but KC defense is light years behind INDYs....but is that enough?

I don’t know...Chiefs are giving 5 1/2 as of now. Luck + 5.5? Sounds like even Vegas doesn’t think Luck’s gonna pull it off.

#11870 9 months ago
Quoted from Daditude:

Vegas missed 3 of 4 games last week. Just sayin...

That’s because the parameters and equations used for Vegas speculation don’t include the plethora of bad and/or missed calls the refs make that actually impact the outcome of games.

#11878 9 months ago

Come on daditude let’s get ready for the game...

E....A....G....L....E....S.......Eagles!

#11881 9 months ago

I’ll tell you what. My hatred for the Cowboys runs deep, but I would have no problem at all partying with some of their cheerleaders.

#11882 9 months ago
Quoted from Daditude:

What % chance do you think the eagles have to win?

Realistically? 65%. If the Bears game didn’t teach NFL fans that shit happens, I don’t know what will.

If the Birds can put up some points, and a decent amount, their defense has stepped it up enough in recent weeks. As long as Maddox practiced defending double moves this week.

I think the Saints D was ranked 3rd in regular season defense, so I’m optimistic after the display in the Bears game and the Birds putting up some points against the #1 ranked defense.

#11884 9 months ago
Quoted from Daditude:

remembering last year's improbable run to a SB win

It’ll be a damn miracle if the Eagles are ever given credit for accomplishing anything without “luck”, or given a break from other fans or the refs.

Have they gotten some good, fortuitous bounces? Sure. But no team wins the Super Bowl without some great playing, hard work and talent. I’ve never seen a road to the big game and a win based solely on luck.

They beat the friggin Patriots, which is no easy task. Ask 5 other teams that put bling on Brady’s finger.

#11888 9 months ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

Easy there cowboy -- -- we can all agree the Eagle's SB run was "improbable" without putting it down to luck.

Well said. I definitely admit on some level it was improbable, but you have to give a team credit that has a back up quarterback come in and take the team all the way to the gold.

Quoted from Rondogg:

They beat the Patriots fair and square.

A gentleman and a scholar. Much appreciated.

#11890 9 months ago
Quoted from Daditude:

Your 65% prediction along with the longest pin wishlist I have ever witnessed make me believe you are a "glass is half full" type of guy.

LMFAO. And add in that some games on my list are definitely improbable to come across.

#11893 9 months ago

I really just wanted to use the word improbable again.

But with a quick comment so the thread doesn’t get derailed...Nosferatu, Mephisto, Miss World and several others.

#11898 9 months ago
Quoted from Jodester:

Drinking and making football picks are bad.

I agree.

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#11900 9 months ago
Quoted from Jodester:

Oh, man! That looks great...

Absolutely. I had posted in the other thread then I saw yours here. Too funny. I’m polishing off the Johnny Blue first.

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#11904 9 months ago
Quoted from Jodester:

It would be super cool to watch the game with some Eagles fans. Maybe I can go to Walkons and watch the game at the bar.

Do I need to get on a plane?

At least I know you fellas would have me covered with the ol’ “away from home pinball fix.” A bunch of my buds are coming down on a bus, they actually left this morning.

Either way, it should be a good game. Foles will take the Birds down the field with 6:50 left. Brees will get the ball back with 1:28 left, but he’ll need a TD and it won’t happen. Eagles 31, Saints 24.

Next thing we’ll all see will be Kobe and Will Smith in Foles jerseys on the sidelines in LA.

#11908 9 months ago
Quoted from Deaconblooze:

I've always felt Luck was very overrated.

I certainly agree with this statement. Sure, like so many others Luck was spectacular coming out of college, but hasn’t really done anything special in the NFL, and unfortunately has been plagued by injury. Other than a few pro bowl selections and getting a little deeper into the playoffs in I think 2014 or 2015, nothing phenomenal going on there.

#11911 9 months ago
Quoted from Erik:

i think Luck is damned good and it annoys me to no end

He is definitely damned good, but he was out way too long with injuries. That definitely took a toll being the early years of his career. He was pretty much projected to be the next Brady, and I don’t think he will ever achieve anywhere near that status.

#11922 9 months ago
Quoted from RWH:

I think this game has the potential to be the best game of the playoffs, may be even better than the SB itself.

This game is going to be a total mess...love it. This is where you separate the men from the boys. I hope everybody’s ready for the run game.

Quoted from TheLaw:

KC, LA, LA, NO.

Fuck you.

#11926 9 months ago

Yeah man. I think this one is over. Looks like Pederson v. Reid in the SB. Irony.

-1
#11939 9 months ago

Wait...where did all of the Dallas fans go?

Anderson and Gurley played their asses off. If it came down to a Pats v. Rams Super Bowl, I would definitely take the Rams.

Let’s go Birds!!

#11941 9 months ago
Quoted from Daditude:

My Cowboys lost.

Come on, the Cowboys won a playoff game… back in 1995.

Dak just doesn’t seem to be the last drive/2 minute drill kind of guy, or doesn’t come up big when it’s needed. Like I keep saying over and over again, shut down Elliot and you shut down the Cowboys. Held to 47 yards on 20 carries, and they lost. Exactly.

At least you have your cheerleaders, right?

#11946 9 months ago
Quoted from Deaconblooze:

Dak did put them on position. He scored, and did it before the 2m warning to give his team a shot at getting the ball back. It was the defense that failed to prevent LA from converting.

True. But with the rule changes for onside kicks, not being able to overload one side, the chances of getting the ball back and scoring twice within 2 or 3 minutes anymore without a turnover is nowhere near as great as it used to be.

#11947 9 months ago
Quoted from Daditude:

Arguably the best "young" team in the nfl.

Well, then there’s the Rams.

#11951 9 months ago
Quoted from dirtbag66:

Giving yourself a safety net in case your "Birds" lose, huh?
Must be nice.

Not my intent. I said earlier that the Eagles have a 65% chance of winning this game. That’s just my opinion. What fan would actually say or root for their own team to lose?

And if they don’t, I think the Rams are a better team than the Pats, and I don’t really need to see Brady or the Gronk robot win another ring.

For now, we’ll have to see what Rivers can do.

#11956 9 months ago
Quoted from Jodester:

Not looking good for visiting teams in the playoffs this weekend.

Your perception will change come 4:40.

#11961 9 months ago

Wow. Good first drive NO.

#11962 9 months ago

And so it begins. No flag on a helmet to helmet hit on Agholor.

#11964 9 months ago
Quoted from Jodester:

Why does Nola's offense look like the Jets offense right now?

Courtesy of pressure from Eagles D.

#11966 9 months ago
Quoted from Jodester:

Pocket is collapsing on nearly every throw for Brees. Saints D finally getting pressure on Foles. Should be an entertaining second half.

Definitely should be. I was getting concerned with the Eagles D dropping off like flies. No idea why Pederson called a time out with 10 seconds left and NO having no timeouts. Pretty much gave them three points.

Good luck to you and your team. I have a feeling it will be a nailbiter.

#11968 9 months ago
Quoted from Jodester:

That 10 minute drive has got to wind a defense.

Definitely. Big difference between the first and second half on both sides.

#11971 9 months ago
Quoted from Deaconblooze:

20 unanswered. Philly needs to turn it around pretty quick to stay in this.

Yeah, not going to happen. Brees just ate up 10 minutes 2 drives ago. It was all saints in the second half.

#11979 9 months ago

Yeah, they just should’ve went to the two minute warning. No idea why he snapped that ball.

#11985 9 months ago
Quoted from dirtbag66:

Philly fans all scrambling to get a seat on the Saints or Rams bandwagon right now. Gotta cheer for a winner so they can feel better about themselves.

Are you always so douchey? I’m not jumping on any bandwagon. Now it just becomes about gambling.

I said they had a 65% chance, and it went the other way.

#11987 9 months ago

Eagles actually put out a great effort. All the fans down there said it was going to be a blowout like last time. It wasn’t.

Eagles had plenty of chances to win that game, and both underthrown passes by Foles would’ve been touchdowns. They even had a chance down to the wire, and just didn’t perform. Congrats and good luck to the Saints.

#11992 9 months ago

That was a joke and a slight in regards to their season ending, as mine just did. I didn’t say a damn thing about those posts above about mine ending likewise. It’s all talking shit in good fun.

I didn’t make comments about their fans “needing to feel better about themselves.” Spend less time typing and more time going to find a new kicker to replace Parkey.

#12076 9 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Yes they happened and are solely responsible for the Pats complete dominance of football over the last 19 years.
L. O. L.

Is it ironic that the Eagles sustained so many injuries after Payton brought a wheelbarrow full of cash into NO’s locker room? Last time he did that...

Hahaha. Just screwing around. Brady and Belichick have cheated, but that doesn’t take away their talent and all the success they’ve had. The Pats are at the top year after year after year. That’s not an easy feat to accomplish, and consistently.

#12078 9 months ago
Quoted from Erik:

I'm leaning towards KC and Rams but it's early and i may waffle before or after next weekend.

I can see that...might be the year for Mahomes or Goff, and for Brady to finally hang the cleats up.

#12079 9 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

and when Wentz gets hurt again their season will be over.

Hey!!! Ass.

#12084 9 months ago
Quoted from Erik:

Speaking of which did they ever state how he broke his back?

Locally, they just said it was a “progressive” injury. I’m not so sure there was any type of acute event.

Quoted from Erik:

lol! what's the sentiment with philly fans with Wentz? Still Wentzylvania? Or trade him for a bounty and go with Foles?

Sentiment is that he was the number two overall behind Goff, and supposed to be our franchise Q back. I’m definitely concerned about his amount of injuries, considering he was also injured his last year of college. Foles will go, I’m sure he’s looking for a starting spot. He even said so in post game interviews yesterday.

It always annoys me a little. If you look at the hit the Rams delivered last year, Wentz was clearly in the endzone already anyway, yet two players sandwiched his knee and totally obliterated it. There was no need for a hit like that, especially from two players concurrently.

#12085 9 months ago
Quoted from Erik:

Their offense looked to me like it was predicated on running and playaction. Then teams stopped respecting the play action and stacked the line, and the offense wasn't the same.

The Rams are big on playaction and RPO’s, because Goff is mobile and can make plays on his feet, but can also stay in the pocket and play comfortably from there. When he does run, he’s pretty damn quick also.

#12108 9 months ago

Well that’s that. Kudos on ending that argument.

Although there is a lot of references to PED usage on that site, which isn’t the same as filming another team’s practice, stealing a playbook, deflating balls, etc.

I think we can only all imagine the antics teams engage in to get an advantage. There is a lot of money in the NFL, so plenty of money to spend on bullshit.

I’m not sure if I should jump on the Rams or Chiefs bandwagon at this point. Really trying to feel better about myself after that loss.

#12114 9 months ago
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#12138 8 months ago

Saints definitely got screwed there with no pass interference call.

#12141 8 months ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

One of the worst non calls ever.

Payton is still over there screaming at the official. If they lose, you can argue that cost them the game.

#12150 8 months ago

Yeah, it was a bum call, and they’ve been happening all year. So much for preseason when they said they were weren’t going to make any calls that could ultimately decide a game. They’ve done it all year. It’s a joke. Saints got ripped off.

Not like the Rams didn’t play well though.

#12152 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

And I am happy or McVeigh. Like I said just another failure by the Redskin to let him go. Gotta be the worst organization in football.

I’m just glad I jumped on the right bandwagon. My team pulled it out. Now maybe I can finally start feeling better about myself.

#12173 8 months ago

There’s Mahomes!! Big defensive play on this drive and they are right back in it.

#12182 8 months ago

What bullshit. Could the Patriots get any more breaks? Two BS roughing the passer penalties for the golden boy when he wasn’t even touched, holding on a Chiefs interception, Gronk pushing off and no flag, what a joke.

#12374 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Maybe Colson knows better than I, but Reid is one of these guys who always has a shittyD, right? Like shanahan?
I mean, imagine if the chiefs had even an average D this season.

Reid historically does have a shitty defense. He is an offense guy, and often lets the D coach run the whole other side of the ball. Doesn’t work out.

If KC had even a “decent” defense, they would have won that game hands down.

#12375 8 months ago
Quoted from mcclad:

I do not think they are as good as they were years ago. Just my opinion.

Quoted from Who-Dey:

Correct and im.not being a dick or knocking them, but they are an average team at best right now.

The Pats’ overall game is definitely deflating at this point.

#12400 8 months ago
Quoted from Rondogg:

are Pinside Moderators allowed to troll? Not a complaint because I think the Mods on this site are excellent, just wondering...

Irony = NE fan questioning rules. Glad Jodester deflated that before it gained legs.

#12409 8 months ago
Quoted from Rondogg:

Can't we all agree that the Lombardi trophy be renamed the Belichick trophy? I mean he does have 7 going on 8 rings and 11 appearances. Lombardi only had two Super Bowl victories and 3 pre SB. I think we should all get together and appeal to Roger Goodell.

I’ll meet you halfway. The NFL can have a second one called the Pats-players-smash-cell-phones-to-destroy-evidence Trophy, or Evidence Spoliation Trophy. We can certainly refer to it as “The Belichick” or “The Brady” if you want.

I predict The Goff is going to win the trophy; replace “The Hoff”; and the 600 play Baywatch thread will be resurrected.

#12432 8 months ago

Well, at least we can all agree that the Pro Bowl has become the most irrelevant and joke of a major sporting event on the planet. They are just hanging out, playing a game of touch football and high-fiving each other all afternoon. I remember when the Pro Bowl meant something and was an actual game.

It would be more interesting and fun to watch a 3-hour broadcast of all the NFL players just hanging out and partying with cocaine and strippers. Or in other words...just be able to watch the actual after party.

#12452 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Come on let's hear your stories! so tell us about your love in an elevator!

I’m suddenly wanting to add an Aerosmith pin to the line up...

#12453 8 months ago
Quoted from DaveH:

If that happened to me, my phone would have been acid washed by noon.

Things people do because they clearly have nothing to hide...

Now I see why Pats fans think what their team does is ok.

#12462 8 months ago
Quoted from DaveH:

And our team isn't ok... they are the best team in the NFL. Have a look at the record as we travel down to Atlanta for another Super Bowl

Given you want to put everything in legal context, I didn’t say “your team was OK”, I said you agreeing that destroying evidence is acceptable and what your “team does is OK” speaks to the fan base. Meaning all the cheating and miscellaneous “things” they’ve done to help themselves win over the last several years. And that’s only what we know about. I can only imagine what else they’ve done.

The reality is the Pats are an excellent team. Nobody can deny that.

Which is why I really don’t understand why they’ve resorted to cheating when they have, as if they had to resort to such behavior for any type of advantage.

You can’t blame other fans for pointing out what they’ve done, when they are the morons that did it in the first place when they didn’t even have to. They themselves have tarnished their reputation and placed the ?’s next to some of their SB victories or seasons.

All I know is I would rather have my team have a dynasty like you do, and all those achievements and victories without ?’s even mentioned. The Patriots will forever be mentioned as the greatest dynasty in the last 20 years, with references to cheating intermingled. Sad.

And only a Pats fan would put references to texting both their wife and girlfriend in a public forum. Looks like you may be destroying your cell phone and Pinside account one day...or writing your wife a much bigger check than you had anticipated.

#12489 8 months ago

If anybody wants a bet that is a lock, I’m throwing at least $100 that sore loser ass Brady doesn’t shake Goff’s hand if the Rams win. Just like he stiffed Foles last year.

#12502 8 months ago

This is absolutely the worst and most boring Super Bowl I have watched in several years.

#12506 8 months ago

If I wanted to see no scoring I would’ve went to the bar and watched my buddies.

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#12559 8 months ago

Patriots fans today: "What a defensive juggernaut of a game!!! Best SB ever, and my team still pulled it off!! Brady is the best!!"

Rams fans today (while in line at Starbucks): "What time is the SB next Sunday? What? The game was yesterday?"

Every other NFL team fan today: Well, that game really sucked.

A few pages ago somebody said Eagles fans always need to feel better about themselves. All I heard all week was how Pederson was "ok" last year but "McVay is the most innovative offensive mind to grace the sport in years". Rams = 3 points, 260 yards, Eagles last year = 41 points, and 538 yards against the same exact team. And walked away with the ring.

I officially feel better both about myself, and my team...sans bandwagon.

#12561 8 months ago
Quoted from mcclad:

Awesome. Well said.
I am a Patriots fan. That game really sucked. LOL. I think that is the worst SB that I have ever seen.

Well, for what it's worth...congrats on another ring. Not that the Pats had to do a whole lot to earn it.

#12572 8 months ago
Quoted from JY64:

LOL the same team there was no Julian Edelmen and gronk got a concussion the game before the SB

Whatever dude. Last year was a fucking shootout, and Birds won the contest. And with the game coming down to a strip on Brady by Brandon Graham on the Pats two minute drill that they usually pull off, that’s friggin entertainment. Nailbiting at its finest.

That was a game to watch. Last nights game? I get more excitement watching Jeopardy with my grandmother.

#12607 8 months ago

Meh. Misquoted post. Deleted.

#12616 8 months ago
Quoted from Rascal_H:

Quotes for truth

Not sure if you saw, but they are allowing male cheerleaders on NFL squads now. New Orleans did it and a few other teams. You should try out.

Maybe Brady will give you a big smooch instead of Kraft.

#12636 8 months ago

Bury this shitshow. We can go here because we are sick of reading about the Patriots and their shenanigans.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/official-2019-2020-nfl-thread#post-4826829

#12689 8 months ago
Quoted from RWH:

Wow shades of the old NFL when the QB's weren't so protected, this could be good.

Definitely. San Ant’s qback got steamrolled at full speed last night in the middle of a throw, helmet flew off mid-air, he nailed the ground. No flag. Excellent.

I’d like to see how Brady could do under conditions like that.

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#12722 7 months ago