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I have no problem at all blaming the Ravens and the league.

We had the video of him pulling his unconscious fiance (now wife) out of the elevator. What did people really think happened? Rice admitted that he hit her from what I remember. He was charged and entered a plea. He never denied hitting her.

So if he hit her and that resulted in her being knocked unconscious, what was it about this video that suddenly made this go from a 2 game suspension to an indefinite ban?

And why the hell didn't the Ravens or the NFL take any steps to get the video from inside the elevator before making a decision on the punishment?

The original 2 game suspension was a freaking joke. Then the video is released and people are outraged, even though the facts were already pretty much known.

The actions by the Ravens and the League today were nothing more than a public relations reaction to the reaction of the general public.

Ridiculous.

Sounds like an Ike and Tina Turner deal all over again,stupid move on her part.

Yep good points RobT. I saw the league said they requested the elevator video but were denied. I guess that means they were outbid by TMZ.

I don't know maybe Rob T can comment but how can the league go back once they have handed out the ruling? As of now I would think the NFL wrongly suspended him indefinitely. They obviously are reacting to the public out cry but i will bet they reverse this momentarily. The league admitted long ago they got it wrong so now they want to double dip? if they rushed their decision but made one, I would think it is too late to go back and do anything about it. For the record I do not condone the actions of Rice but this knee jerk reaction from public out cry after they made their decision and admitted it was wrong will not stand. The team has every right to cancel his contract on player conduct so it will be interesting to see what comes of this.

If Rice's initial testimony to Goodell was different than the events on the tape, then he pulled a Ron Mexico....I mean Michael Vick, and lied to Goodell. Even if it was the same, like Rob said, its a PR move. They f'd up the first time and now they are trying to make it right.

Speaking of El Mexico, who wants a piece of this FFL juggernaut? no keepers, no problem.

I'm sure this will probably change the 49ers stance of due process with the Ray McDonald alleged domestic dispute investigation.

So now they are saying that Police sent the video to an NFL executive back in April.

Is Goodell going to go down over this?

Possibly, but the owners appear to be behind him......I think most people (including myself) had difficulty believing the NFL couldn't get a copy of the tape yet TMZ did

The owners won't save him if it is proven that the tape was sent to the NFL.

Goodell right now reminds me of the goat tied up to the stake in jurasshole park.

I can't believe this has been non stop in the news. NFL should stay out of it, let police handle it. You know rice will sue and get a job somewhere.I guess ebola, isis,ukraine,IRS scandle,etc aren't as important as a football player getting fired. Looks like we're going to war again in middle east, but hey, why should the news focus in on that.
Goodell isn't going anywhere, just like selig went nowhere. Those that made it to the top know how to stay there.
First rule is deny, deny, deny

He should, i never liked him.
He sure got red and blinked a lot in his interview which tells me that he knew this Ray Rice assault awhile ago.

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There he is!

apparently three times!

Triple vision

Uhh....ok?

Lets see how the Jerry Jones thing works out along with RR.
Getting more and more like a soap opera of late.

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and now Adrian Peterson facing felony charges for "child injury"!

Goodell and Rice and Hardy and Peterson have succeeded in making the biggest thing in American sports depressing. Can't remember a worse week for the shield. I'm the annual week 4 Jake Locker injury from going into NBA mode.

I see the Vegas over/under is 3 for Rivers throws at Richard Sherman this week. I'm taking the over! (and an INT)

You forgot about Ray McDonald for the 49ers.. the team that stated they have zero tolerance.

The whole AP thing is turning into a how to raise your child issue and "my dad used to whoop me all the time" conversation.

This is a curious website

http://highrankwebsites.com/nfl-crimes-interactive/

Yes it has, and that's too bad, because that's not what this is about.

Huge difference between spanking a child and child abuse. From what I've heard, the pictures of the injury to the child make it pretty obvious that this went well beyond a spanking or "whoopin". Especially since we are dealing with a 4 year old.

Spousal abuse stories can sure take the edge off the home teams opening day loss. The Chargers are a talented team with lots of potential. But if the coach keeps calling running plays on every first down until two minutes left in the half, they can expect to go nowhere.

According to the urban dictionary, a whoopin can be administered using a switch, which is what AP allegedly used.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=WHOOPIN

Whatever you call it, if you're leaving marks, you're doing it wrong.

I commend AP for being a disciplinarian with his kids… something missing in today's society. I'm not saying what AP did was just fine and dandy but I don't think this should've been blown up by the media but that's what they do best.

I think AP probably went a little overboard just like many loving parents have regrettably done at some time or another but I don't think his intentions were 'child abuse'. I remember getting the belt when I was a kid. Heck my dad would probably be considered a child abuser today… many mom/dads would be be.

Many years ago this was 'normal' disciplinary action even in the schools. Times have changed (unfortunately) and now the kids rule… we've simply gone way to far the other way IMO.

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I understand what you are saying, but from what I've heard the pictures that show the child's injury will make it very clear that this went way too far and was totally unacceptable.

I will reserve my final opinion until the pictures become public.

Like I said I believe he went overboard and definitely made a regrettable mistake but I don't believe his intentions were evil or his goal was to abuse his kid. I believe his intentions were good but his frustration/anger got the best of him. It happens to the best of us and as long as his intentions were good and it doesn't happen again he should be forgiven and move on. He has no history of this and is well known as a 'good guy' and a good father. I have no problem with some sort of minor legal punishment... maybe a 2 game suspension as well.

My issue is with the media lumping AP in with Rice and Hardy which I don't agree with at all. It's pretty easy to see the intentions of someone that puts his fist in the middle of his wife's face knocking her out cold and then dragging her face first out of an elevator. Or like Hardy kicking and beating his woman and threating to kill her... pretty clear intentions. Disciplining a child to the point of possible abuse is a much finer line and any evil intentions are not as clear. Just my opinion.

Wow do my Jaguars suck. When you get your ass kicked by the Redskins, you know you suck. Won't be long for Bortles.

At least my "whoever plays the Saints" are doing well at 2-0 this year. Woo Hoo!!

Titans suck too, as my Cowboys whooped their ass.

(oops, perhaps not the best term to use right now?)

How about those bad ass patriots

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Is the Packers defense trying a new scheme in which they have one or two less players on the field ? Cause that is the way it seems .

Yeah I don't know why they kept him. Defense has been a joke for quite some time .

And just like clowns it is not funny .

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Hey Wilkerson, bye, bye, bye

That's my problem, I'm pulling for the Pack, but you get fantasy points against me. Oh well, Jets loss is good any way I can get it

BOOM! Chargers with 40 minutes time of possession against the highly touted defense of the world champion Seahawks. Total doomination!

Seahawks show their true colors, without their opponent being deaf, they are just another team.

Jets TD nulled out by TO, I love it!

Gonna love this stomping.
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Nice win for the Chargers beating the champions Seahawks.

You never know what Chargers team is going to show up. Today Rivers and Gates took charge.

I thought the Chargers might have a problem with a short week and the Seahawks with 4 extra days rest, but none of that mattered today. Even though the Chargers dominated in every phase of the game, the Seahawks somehow managed to keep the score close. But in the end the better prepared team won.

I had the Titans at an optimistic 7-9 record before today's embarrassment. Slowly distancing self from that one...