Yeah getting Keenum was a good deal for the skins. Pretty soon, the Jags will be overpaying for Foles.

Good point, locking in a mediocre guy on the cheap might just keep Redskins from making more costly mistakes at QB.

If they've earned anything sir, it's a little more respect sir.

I'm guessing, trade for sign keenum, trade for rosen, draft a Qb

Skins just can't afford to put any money in QB. They are on the hook for like another 60 million to Alex Smith who will never play gain. Be lucky to walk again.

it's a shit situation but they deserve it.

Haha Brown trade #1 (at least) fell apart. I really honestly thing he may need a wellness check...he's losing it.

Michael Bennett to the Patriots. If they can keep Flowers, look out!

Anybody watch AAF this weekend? Actually entertaining games for once...

No, as I'm not bedridden.

I just can't think of a single activity I did this weekend that I'd possibly have considered not doing in order to catch an AAF game.

These activities included: playing pinball with friends friday night. Sleeping in till 1 pm on Saturday. Hanging out with my GF on saturday. Going to a steak house. Working on a Gottlieb High Hand. Delivering a High Hand to Long Island and picking up two games on Sunday. Going to Macy's and getting a nice new sport jacket, 3 pairs of Levi's, and a sharp green sweater.

What were we talking about again? Oh right the AAF. I honestly forget it exists every weekend and I'm reminded only when I visit this thread. Cool to see the 'Ol Bastard Steve Spurrier is still undefeated. Go get 'em coach!

As a Giants fan, I hate seeing Landon Collins sign with the Skins.

My head is spinning with FA pickups today. During the TT years we were all but absent from the FA market.

Billy Turner - OT
Adrian Amos - S
Zadarius Smith - OLB
Preston Smith - OLB

So jelly about landing Z. Smith

Lucky you. We all know FA binges always bring positive results!

Don't know anything about any of those players except ex-Redskins Preston Smith. He kinda sucks. Takes plays off. Slower than he should be. Puts together a couple 8-sack seasons by feasting on a few shitty teams and then taking the rest of the year off. Always seems to disappear in the big games.

He's no stiff but I'm not going to miss him. Just doesn't have the fire, and don't see that changing with a fat new contract.

Love hearing that!

The spending is a product of failed drafts. We missed on Jason Spriggs in the 2nd, and now we have to go out and sign a guy to fill in the gap. We made a mistake in letting Peppers go too early, and relying on Matthews and Perry (and failing to find someone suitable in the draft to supplement), and now we have to go out and fill those gaps. We couldn't get what we thought we could out of HaHa, so again, to FA we go.

What I am excited about, is the effort to fix those mistakes through some spending and urgency. Thompson was always building toward some distant future. He seemedingly refused to fix his draft misses through FA. We had a steady stream of young players coming in and either never contributing, or being forced to contribute in some catastrophic way.

This leverages our draft position. We no longer need to hit a homerun to draft a pass rusher. It would still be nice to get depth at that position, but we now have the opportunity to trade down to someone that's desperate to find someone like the next Brock Osweiler, or draft the best player available.

Is spending in FA the best way to build a team? Clearly not, we have plenty of examples of that (no offense). But, I do think there's reason to do so in cases such as the Packers.

The cap is just rising so quickly I don't know how possible it is to be salary cap strapped anymore. I'm starting to think Snyder was simply ahead of his time!

I feel bad for Giants Fans...

Bummer. Maybe they realized he’s not much good without a QB to throw to him. Hopefully they can do something with those draft picks.

Has any checked on Levi?

I heard he's out shopping for a few jeans, a red sportcoat, and a sharp sweater vest.

OBJ!!!!!

Let's gooooooo!!!!

Meanwhile the Patriots lose player after player to record breaking contracts while their head coach gets into pinball tournament shape:

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Levi's thrilled cause he's a Redskins fan.

Giants getting picked like a Thanksgiving Day 3 turkey bone.

I had the pleasure (misfortune) of watching the 91 NFC championship with my roommate who happened to be a Redskin fan.

Sadly, dejected Barry is what I remember most from that day, and more sadly, losing that game may be the highlight of Detroit Lions football in my lifetime.

I remember that well.

I recall the season started with a Lions game that year as well.

Adam Shefter (sp?) is so over rated. I've said for so long all he does is repeat himself. Just the fact of the transaction, no real extra commentary, but fills up 5 minutes with repetition. Check out this discussion. You can tell the other guy is like - ok so what else you got for me...

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26243237/chiefs-set-trade-ford-niners-source-says

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Schefter is a good follow on twitter. All I want are the facts. Any show on ESPN just repeats themselves ad nauseam. Actual insight is really few and far between. ESPN is the MTV of sports.

Lotta players going to different teams..I made a bet w a co worker yesterday that his Steelers won’t make the playoffs this year...eze $ I say..Browns r the team to watch in that division

Lifetime Giants fan here and I say good riddance to OBJ. He has to be the most overrated player in NFL history. Sure he will make a great catch but he also drops a lot of balls. He dropped 2 touchdown passes as I recall in the only playoff game he ever played in. He is often injured as well. I do think he can be good for the Browns and I did love his strong desire to win but its time for the Giants to rebuild and I don't think he is a good player to have on a rebuilding team so take what you can get and move on.

Glad to see you aren't prone to hyperbole.

He's absolutely TORCHED the Skins and I'm sure everybody in the NFC East is glad he's gone. And while the Giants get picks they are still on the cap hook for $16 million.

And the Giants now have one solitary player on offense who scares anybody.

Guess we'll see how the most overrated player in NFL history does on the Browns. I have a hunch he'll make lots of tremendous overrated circus catches and score plenty of overrated touchdowns, leading the overrated Browns on an overrated trip to the overrated playoffs.

I guess I never really liked the dude either but really, what did he do for them the last 2 years?

The stats and highlights speak for themselves. He had lots of good games.

I'm sure you know the Giants have plenty of problems, which is why the picks are good for a team that's been rebuilding a couple years. But even one of the top receivers in the league - and OBJ is certainly that - can't take a team to the playoffs by himself. Not with Eli, not with that line, etc.

But I have a serious hunch that if you ever get a QB who can actually throw a football anytime soon and a line who can protect him, Giants fans are gonna miss OBJ, big time.

Overrated prediction.

Gettleman should have never signed OBJ and then trade him less than a year later. Now the Giants are on the hook for a ton of dead money. OBJ is a tremendous talent but also has a lot of baggage. It is a great trade for the Browns but they better be prepared for his antics.

Full disclosure: Dave Gettleman was the baseball coach in my high school in the mid 70's (we didn't have a football team). He cut me from the team, rightly so. He was also an entertaining driver ed. instructor.

man I don't know how to feel as a browns fan, for the first time I don't have to worry about the draft.

I can't wait for this season

Current look at the Browns bandwagon

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Dirtbag made a bandwagon mention?!

Didn’t see that coming!

Ouch, that 16m in dead cap sucks for the Giants. They're in really rough shape right now. I hate the idea of grabbing a RB high, especially when you're as bad as they are. Barkley is a fine player, but a 1st rd RB is a luxury pick. The life expectancy of a running back is still extremely low compared to other positions. If/when the Giants do turn things around, it's likely Barkley will either be washed up, or playing for another team.

Shouldn't you be out shopping for a few jeans, a red sportcoat, and a sharp sweater vest?

Ball control game now in NYG may be ok. Ground and pound, leads to play action, helps O line look better. I'd be more worried on the D side of the house. A great D can carry a low turnover ball control offense.

Play action to what?

Barkley had 91 receptions 721 yds last year, Shepard 66 receptions 872 yds, Engram (TE) 45 for 577 yds. Yes, you're losing Beckham 77 1052yds. Beauty of the NFL, young talent always to be had.

Yeah I just see playaction working too well when it's Eli to whatshisname behind that line.

Maybe they'll be able to lean on some of that young talent, but if I'm a DC I'm keying on Barkley and letting them try to beat me with the pass.

The process of building a good sustainable team is boring. You need to secure big fat men to push around other big fat men. That's true on both sides of the ball. The position players get all of the attention, but the game is really won in the trenches, and those difference makers are difficult to find, and often demand high draft picks and lots of development time. A RB in the first round is always a mistake by a franchise trending down, unless the goal is ticket and jersey sales.

Yeah play action to Barkley is not effective when the QB can't/won't throw it down field any longer. Watch the Giants pick up Bortles now that he was released.

Fuck that.

So sayeth fans of every team!

I think Bortles would be a fine backup. Its just a question of whether or not he has accepted that this will be his role.

All the browns fans around me are dancing in the streets and talking about going to the Super Bowl. Its quite comical.

7-1 odds to go to the SB
14-1 to win it all

But don't worry, you guys got Andy Dalton, and THAT is quite comical.