Next day thoughts. I only remember doritos commercials and the old astronaut in the car one. Most were too creepy and just flashed on product at the end. Many had me shaking my head like getting the old british woman (helen mirren) to scold everyone who drinks not to drive. Or the shots of people exercising and at the very end they go for a beer? I don't recall a godaddy commercial, miss those.
cam looked gassed at end of first half. I do think he choked. Peyton didn't do much better, didn't convert on last 13 3rd downs? Half time show was really bad. I mean really really bad. For some reason I though csonka was dead. I did hear peyton say he was going to drink budweiser. Looked like eli was scared peyton was going to get mvp. And as usual, I picked the wrong team to win...

The WTF? moment was him kissing Papa John after the game. He must really like that pizza.

Papa Johns Pizza and Budweiser. What a combo. Today he's going to Disneyland with his kids. I wouldn't want to be riding behind him on Space Mountain.

Yeah that was weird, and pretty awkward when he accidentally said later that he was "going to drink a bunch of beer" and then had to correct himself and say Budweiser. Budweiser says they didn't pay him to say that (and good thing since there's a league rule against being sponsored by alcohol manufacturers). But Manning evidently owns a Budweiser distributorship, so he was plugging his own product. Would have been hilarious if he'd been eating a slice of Papa John's on the podium, but I guess we had to settle for that fleeting image of him kissing PJ on the field.

I don't care for Budweiser particularly, or crass commercialization in general. But as an atheist and beer drinker, I did appreciate that Manning mentioned Bud before he got around to "the man upstairs."

My old man loved Budweiser. He kept cases of that shit around. But personally I couldn't stomach it. So when I wanted cheap beer sometimes I would pick up some Coors. So he says " you know what Coors and making love in a canoe have in common?" And I say "no, what?" He says " Fn near water". lol...

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This picture says it all. Celebrating while his team is in a scrum, that's their leader.
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Looks like a name change for this thread is in order. No longer 2015-2016.

I thought we would just start a new thread but then I noticed the web address says 2013-2014.

I thought it was devolving into a rugby thread.

All the commercials sucked like they do every year...other than the Weiner Dog one.

The doritos one with the pregnancy was great.

Ha that one was a little strange. Later Doritoes had one with Dogs in it and I thought some puppies were going to shoot out early.

Funny thing *probably* 25+ teams would take Cam over who they currently have at QB.

Why is that funny? He's the NFL MVP and he completely dominated the field this past year except for the SB. Besides GB and NE, the rest of the teams would be complete idiots not to grab him if he was available.

Now can he carry this over to next season too? I hope so as I think he's fun to watch, and I'm not a Carolina fan.

Yeah he's a bit of a baby, but he also got jacked up by the best Defense in the league that just smacked down Brady before this

The NFL routinely employs rapists and murderers so it's not strange that close to every team would want a guy that can't handle a news conference if it helped them win.

You forgot that he's a thief too.

I'll keep Russel Wilson, thank you very much.

Um Puppy Monkey Baby for the win. Two years in a row Kick start took the best commercial.

And last year

This was the best reviewed at my house...and I dislike dogs.

The babymonkey thing gets remembered for being unstteling, I'll give it that.
Last years might have been the worst.

Oh sorry if I missed it mentioned, but was the only one turned on by the intestine ad?

Haha. I realize my sense of humor is very weird and I get why people don't like the kickstart commercials, but I couldn't stop laughing and I went back and watched it at least 10 times. Haha

Hating dogs and being aroused by intestines should be automatic threadban. OP, can you do something?

I found the Jack in the Box commercial to be the best.

I'll never apologize for that!!!

The "that's random" comedy angle is just so fucked out. It's lazy, and when doritos and mt dew are doing it, you know it's time to move on.

All I know is if the packers don't make any big FA moves and don't win the super bowl, TT better get fired. They need to make a move, AR12 is being wasted in his prime and is the only reason we keep getting in the playoffs. End rant.

Who do you want in FA? I'd like to see us pickup a TE more than most anything else - Gates and Davis are both FAs.. but Gates is old, and (presumably) off the steroids that kept him healthy. Davis said specifically when he got drafted that he was glad GB didn't pick him.

Sadly, we also need a punter.

You're concerned about a backup tight-end? I'm assuming you are happy with Richard Rodgers (sp?)?

I think maybe JPP with an incentive laden contract would be nice. I guess anyone else that would be a marked improvement is going to cost too much... A shut down corner would be nice... I wouldn't mind Alshon Jeffery as a nice, big, deep catch playmaker but he was a Bear...

All I know is there is little to no blame being assigned to anyone when these supposedly highly skilled teams keep spinning their wheels. We either don't have the personel or the right coaching. The packers should have won another super bowl by now IMHO...

You're right, I also think we should have won another SB. I blame the coaching, as well as some curious staffing promotions. We moved Edgar Bennett from RB coach (ok, that makes sense) to WR coach (getting colder) to Off Coord (???). We promoted Alex Van Pelt to QB coach, and simultaneously assigned him the WR coach position - that's an interesting experiment, but based on the drop at each of those positions (regardless of injuries) I really don't think it's working out.

12 had a huge respect for Clements, so we moved him to Assistant Head Coach (whatever that is), and eventually removed his only real role as play caller. The writing is basically on the wall with him, I can't imagine he sticks around. Ideally, I'd like to see everyone take a step back, they've clearly risen to their level of incompetence, but I sincerely doubt we can convince Clements to go back to QB coach, etc.

I think the players are there with only a few exceptions. Our rookie CBs played really well most of the year, so I doubt we bring in much help for the secondary (we've got shields, hyde, rollins and randall, and maybe hayward).

I'm not really happy with RRodgers - he's just too slow, or at least he looks too slow.. I want someone that is a legitimate threat on the seam, and can make safeties play honest. I don't know that any of the FA guys are really the answer for that, so I suspect we'll do what we always do - draft.

I think we need some help at ILB. Jake Ryan played alright for a rookie, but he looks like another AJ Hawk, particularly in coverage (or lack of coverage). Perry and Neal are both up for FA, and we're talking about moving Clay back outside. I would guess we probably want Peppers back, but if he retires or we tell him to take a hike, I have no idea how we fill all those positions. We also have to make a decision on Guion and Raji...

I'm not a big fan of firing a coach who's been to the playoffs 8 out of 10 years. Head Coach provides the culture of a team and I think the Packers have a winning atmosphere. If they want to change a scheme on the offensive or defensive side, then change a coordinator. You can't really guard against injuries if that was the problem last year.

I only watched a couple of GB games this year and the things I noticed was the offensive line was weak and the defense was lackluster. I think overall they are just a few pieces away from getting to another Super Bowl. I saw that for years with the Colts. Their performance was reliant on the fact that players stayed healthy. They always did a good job of keeping backups prepared (until Manning got injured). But I always cherished those years. The failures made the successes taste so much sweeter. When compared with the other option of being the Browns who have lottery picks nearly every year, I'll take making the playoffs every year even if they end in defeat every time.

I don't want to fire coaches, but I would like to get them back to the roles at which they excelled.

Our offensive line was banged up practically all year. Our defense was probably as good as it's been since we won in 2010 (and probably better).

Any blame on Arodgers for the poor performance this year?

From the sidelines looking in, he sure seemed to be a big part of the failure. Seemed like he had gotten inside his head and looked very Cutleresque in decision making/frustration for some games. Despite my dislike for all things Packers, I always through Arodgers was solid up till this year.

Was that all coaching and he deserves no blame?

I was checking the stats on the defense and they were middle of the pack (no pun intended), ranked 12th for points and 15th for yards. That's the best since 2012 since they were 11th in both and 2010 when they were a top five defense. So yeah the defense wasn't playing too bad but the offensive ranks were surprising, 15th in points and 23rd in yards. Yikes. Denver was 19th and 16th but they had the best defense in the league to make up for that.

poor? no, just not great. He certainly had a case of the yips more often than in the past. I'd give him some blame, but not a ton.

completion % 60.7
yards 3,821
td 31
int 8
passer rating 92.7

It seemed like he had lots of indecision this year and lack of focus which does not really have a metric. He was poor for him/ historically and all I remember is them being 6-0 and then falling hard and he was unable to keep the focus himself. This then seemed to be manifested with fights on the sidelines and I assume issues behind the scenes. First time he seemed to not have the respect and confidence of the team. He did not look like the Arodgers of previous years.

I definitely don't think 12 is without blame. I (as well as the talking heads) were praising him through those first 6 games with his pocket presence, it was some of the best I'd ever seen. At some point I guess he got hit too often, and he started breaking the pocket too early or making some frantic throws.

He had a pretty poor attitude when things started looking bleak. Wilde (beat writer) actually pointed that out to him, and he started to relax towards the last few games.

He did have his knee scoped a couple of weeks ago. I don't necessarily think that's why he was playing poorly - the Packers say it was to clean up some previous work more than anything else, but he definitely looked reluctant stepping into throws. He threw off of his back foot way more often than I remember, usually he's got some great footwork and steps into throws pretty athletically, even when he's on the move.

All of that said, I think we did a pretty poor job of adjusting to how defenses were playing us. You heard it all year long that guys weren't getting open, and that was mostly true. NE makes a living with creative WR packages to give Brady the opportunity to hit the open guy - a lot of rub plays or trips, for example. We tried that a few times, but we seemed to abandon it rather quickly.

good insight Dave. Thanks

i agree with this assessment but do not know the cause. It was a historically poor year for him but he didn't play poorly.

That completion percentage is a big drop from previous years and the yards is pretty low. It could have had something to do with line issues.

I don't see this happening...

http://gnb.247sports.com/Bolt/Trevathan-might-be-the-1-free-agent-that-makes-sense-for-Packers-43594574

Bye Bye Beast mode, you will be missed!

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You guys think Shady McCoy does any jail time? He can ask Mike Vick for some pointers. Or do you think this is a civil case?

Just watched the 30 for 30 film, "The Four Falls of Buffalo". Really good. Super Bowl XXV was the first super bowl I watched and I had a poster of Jim Kelly in my room as a kid.

I always thought Buffalo should be owned like Green Bay but I guess that's illegal now.