If Lamar went to SF they'd be SB favs
This will be fun to see play out. If I were the Ravens, I'd much rather have Lamar than the little guy the Cardinals have.
Lamar can demand this and that, but is he really in control of the situation right now? Don't think he's in the driver's seat with that tag on him.
He isn't, but he's also come out and said goodbye to the fans which is a pretty big deal.
I'm rooting for him, and against Baltimore always.
Edit: but really the Ravens are kinda screwed here. I dknt think they want Lamar, and they aren't doing anything to get rid of him
Quoted from DanMarino:This will be fun to see play out. If I were the Ravens, I'd much rather have Lamar than the little guy the Cardinals have.
Lamar can demand this and that, but is he really in control of the situation right now? Don't think he's in the driver's seat with that tag on him.
Exactly, Unless someone trades for him, he can sit out or play on the tag for a couple of years.
4 first round QBs should be drafted this year so 4 teams out of the Lamar trade.
They have talked about this on NFL Radio, Lamar could have signed something like Josh Allen 2 years ago, they both came out in the same draft, but Josh Allen has already made $85M and Lamar only $35M.
Now if Lamar holds out like L.Bell he will be stuck on $35M rather than making another $35M for one year. That's makes no sense to me, it's cutting off your nose to spite your face. I think Lamar is dumb to have not signed 2 years ago and even dumber as the years go, he played on the tag and gets hurt again? Ir he signed a huge contract that Baltimore could offer like Josh Allen or Kyle Murray (or more). But do no play on the tag (fishing another injury) or sit out (loose money forever by not playing) and having no agent he looks like he wants to save money by not paying for an agent so why sit out that is not saving money that is giving away money far more than an agent would take.
Quoted from rai:Exactly, Unless someone trades for him, he can sit out or play on the tag for a couple of years. They say 4 first round QBs this year so 4 teams out of the Lamar trade.
They have talked about this on NFL Radio, Lamar could have signed something like Josh Allen they both came out in the same draft, but Josh Allen has already made $85M and Lamar only $35M.
Now if Lamar holds out like L.Bell he will be stuck on $35M rather than making another $35M for one year. That's makes no sense to me, it's cutting off your nose to spite your face. I think Lamar is dumb to have not signed 2 years ago and even dumber as the years go, he played on the tag and gets hurt again? Ir he signed a huge contract that Baltimore could offer like Josh Allen or Kyle Murray (or more). But do no play on the tag (fishing another injury) or sit out (loose money forever by not playing) and having no agent he looks like he wants to save money by not paying for an agent so why sit out that is not saving money that is giving away money far more than an agent would take.
And the Ravens could play pro bowl qb tyler huntley all year too....
Quoted from DudeRegular:And the Ravens could play pro bowl qb tyler huntley all year too....
OK so Baltimore should just pay Lamar whatever he wants?
And Baltimore should have no concerns about Lamar staying healthy?
Quoted from DudeRegular:And the Ravens could play pro bowl qb tyler huntley all year too....
Same amount of Pro Bowls
Quoted from TheLaw:If Lamar went to SF they'd be SB favs
I’d say so seeing how they’re the current NFC favorite and behind only KC as favorite overall.
Quoted from rai:OK so Baltimore should just pay Lamar whatever he wants?
And Baltimore should have no concerns about Lamar staying healthy?
I guess the north belongs to the bengos anyways these days... They should just give up instead.
Quoted from rai:OK so Baltimore should just pay Lamar whatever he wants?
And Baltimore should have no concerns about Lamar staying healthy?
Nope, but they should really be getting Huntley ready for the season.
I love how Zeke gave a list of teams he’d play for and apparently none of those teams are interested.
Ravens fans gonna come in and explain this all away.... Hurst requested to be traded, Orlando requested to be traded, Hollywood requested to be traded, now Lamar requested to be traded. That is quite a few highly drafted dudes trying to leave. Maybe something else to the story here....
Quoted from Jaybird815:I love how Zeke gave a list of teams he’d play for and apparently none of those teams are interested.
He better stand his ground and just retire then.
Quoted from DudeRegular:https://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2023/3/27/23658253/lamar-jackson-is-the-latest-star-to-request-a-trade-from-the-ravens-nfl-trade-free-agency-news
Ravens fans gonna come in and explain this all away.... Hurst requested to be traded, Orlando requested to be traded, Hollywood requested to be traded, not Lamar requested to be traded. That is quite a few highly drafted dudes trying to leave. Maybe something else to the story here....
Yeah they're dicks. I mean remember a month ago when the GM said Lamar never had any good WR to work with...yeah the credentials WRs didn't really like that too much
Quoted from Jaybird815:I love how Zeke gave a list of teams he’d play for and apparently none of those teams are interested.
Oh that was great. Just take your shorty contract for the Jets and be happy.
0 tds outside the 20 on the last 3 seasons or some shit.
Quoted from Jaybird815:none interested
So brutal -- the last couple years of any famous player are sad to watch -- often with a RB or WR (where age 35+ speed isn't there any longer), whether it's Gore, Peterson, or Owens -- they often want to keep going, but the phone doesn't ring. it never feels crisp and final. Hope drags on, and on...
Hey, there's always boxing I guess.
If this were Logan's Run -- we could all be spared the silence of the non-ringing phone.
Teams will be wary because he has a reputation for showing up to training camp out of shape. Better to wait and see.
Quoted from DudeRegular:https://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2023/3/27/23658253/lamar-jackson-is-the-latest-star-to-request-a-trade-from-the-ravens-nfl-trade-free-agency-news
Ravens fans gonna come in and explain this all away.... Hurst requested to be traded, Orlando requested to be traded, Hollywood requested to be traded, now Lamar requested to be traded. That is quite a few highly drafted dudes trying to leave. Maybe something else to the story here....
Hurst was playing behind others and couldn't get reps to showcase him in the system to be a star.. of course he wanted out. Also unsaid by Hurst, is how he stunk up his early opportunities and why TEs like Pitta and Andrews were stars in Baltimore and Hurst was showing to be a draft dud. The Ravens had Andrews and Boyle.. they had no need for a 3rd TE who wanted to play the role Andrews was absolutely killing it as. So what did they do? They made out like bandits in the trade with a 1st, 2nd, TWO 3rds. That's a windfall.
TLDR - Hurst was in a crowded TE room and didn't shine when given the opportunity
Orlando left because he wanted to be the highest paid tackle in the game. He wanted to be a Left Tackle full time... and again, the team already had a franchise level player at that position. So again, player caught in a crowded room. The ravens weren't going to pay him league leading money... and what did Orlando Brown just do again? leave to chase more money.
TLDR - Orlando wanted to be the player the ravens didn't need. FA allowed him to chase that money. It was always about landing that contract.
Hollywood Brown wanted to be the splash WR but he proved himself to be soft and never able to run after the catch. The combination of the offense style plus brown's "selective" play made him unable to optimize the game he wanted to play. No one was surprised about brown leaving given the OC at the time, Brown's play style, and his lack of durability. He's undersized and soft. So what did the Ravens do? They drafted a BIGGER guy who was supposed to be better (Bateman).. and again.. crowded a player to where their salary wasn't going to be what that player wanted. And the Ravens turned Brown into draft capital which drafted the best rated center in the draft ever.
TLDR - Brown was not worth #1 money, got replaced, and turned into profitable draft capital
Lamar - we know the story... he's chasing a historic contract with an amateur at the steering wheel. The 'asking for trade' just shows how little control he's had against EDC and the ravens.
Quoted from DudeRegular:And the Ravens could play pro bowl qb tyler huntley all year too....
They could also aquire Carolina's pick and draft a qb.. maybe Lamar to the Panthers!? Or Lamar to Washington- that would shake up the pinside wilderness watch! (I highly doubt he is going anywhere tho)
Quoted from DudeRegular:Ravens fans gonna come in and explain this all away....
Quoted from flynnibus:Hurst was playing behind others and couldn't get reps to showcase him in the system to be a star.. of course he wanted out. Also unsaid by Hurst, is how he stunk up his early opportunities and why TEs like Pitta and Andrews were stars in Baltimore and Hurst was showing to be a draft dud. The Ravens had Andrews and Boyle.. they had no need for a 3rd TE who wanted to play the role Andrews was absolutely killing it as. So what did they do? They made out like bandits in the trade with a 1st, 2nd, TWO 3rds. That's a windfall.
TLDR - Hurst was in a crowded TE room and didn't shine when given the opportunity
Orlando left because he wanted to be the highest paid tackle in the game. He wanted to be a Left Tackle full time... and again, the team already had a franchise level player at that position. So again, player caught in a crowded room. The ravens weren't going to pay him league leading money... and what did Orlando Brown just do again? leave to chase more money.
TLDR - Orlando wanted to be the player the ravens didn't need. FA allowed him to chase that money. It was always about landing that contract.
Hollywood Brown wanted to be the splash WR but he proved himself to be soft and never able to run after the catch. The combination of the offense style plus brown's "selective" play made him unable to optimize the game he wanted to play. No one was surprised about brown leaving given the OC at the time, Brown's play style, and his lack of durability. He's undersized and soft. So what did the Ravens do? They drafted a BIGGER guy who was supposed to be better (Bateman).. and again.. crowded a player to where their salary wasn't going to be what that player wanted. And the Ravens turned Brown into draft capital which drafted the best rated center in the draft ever.
TLDR - Brown was not worth #1 money, got replaced, and turned into profitable draft capital
Lamar - we know the story... he's chasing a historic contract with an amateur at the steering wheel. The 'asking for trade' just shows how little control he's had against EDC and the ravens.
And there it is
Quoted from DudeRegular:And there it is
but am I wrong?
Or would you just rather rant with the national view without any of the actual insight? I mean I know people love drama.. but you should prefer non-fiction when it comes the NFL
I mean, the headline is nice and catchy - but the postulate is dumb. Teams trade and let FAs go all the time - it's how the business works. The article even covers much of what I did as well... all the situations were more than just one player in isolation. Because again, that's how the business works. None of those guys ran because they didn't like the org.
Quoted from flynnibus:but am I wrong?
Or would you just rather rant with the national view without any of the actual insight? I mean I know people love drama.. but you should prefer non-fiction when it comes the NFL
I mean, the headline is nice and catchy - but the postulate is dumb. Teams trade and let FAs go all the time - it's how the business works. The article even covers much of what I did as well... all the situations were more than just one player in isolation. Because again, that's how the business works. None of those guys ran because they didn't like the org.
Fact or Fiction: Highly drafted players are requesting to leave the Baltimore Ravens.
And also, knew you couldn't resist typing up a thesis. Just helping you exercise those typing fingers bro!
Quoted from DudeRegular:Fact or Fiction: Highly drafted players are requesting to leave the Baltimore Ravens.
Long understood fact - The Ravens don't pay league record deals. Insert your own drama.
Jez... should we be posting stories about why Hill requested a trade from the chiefs? Or Ronald Jones while a SB contender? Or Tony Gonzales? Or any number of countless players EVERY SEASON from nearly EVERY team?
This story is manufactured drama. Under the current CBA players are incentivized to make their second contract their big payout deal.. and owners are incentivized to replaced aging veterans with rookie contracts. Players know if they can't be seen as league elite at the time of their second contract, their hopes of ever getting a massive deal drop off enormously. Young players don't have the luxury of just playing it out.. and they're more active than ever in trying to position themselves for that contract.
Back to ayahuasca, there's a report that the sticking point on the Rodgers trade is the Jets want to make the 2024 pick conditional on him not retiring after this year.
Quoted from flynnibus:Long understood fact - The Ravens don't pay league record deals. Insert your own drama.
Pffftt!!!!!
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/ravens-sign-lb-roquan-smith-to-record-five-year-100m-deal
I am glad KC paid our QB.
Quoted from DudeRegular:Pffftt!!!!!
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/ravens-sign-lb-roquan-smith-to-record-five-year-100m-deal
I am glad KC paid our QB.
Yup… after letting z smith and judon walk… and countless other LBs and dline before them. Baltimore has churned out tons of defensive players they let test the market verse set the market with.
This was a standout transaction that they wanted to anchor the defense around. I happy with it and hope his durability continues
We still talking about the record contracts that B-More doesn't give out??? When you say "long understood" is that like two weeks?
https://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2013/03/04/joe-flaccos-record-contract-what-you.html
Quoted from DudeRegular:We still talking about the record contracts that B-More doesn't give out??? When you say "long understood" is that like two weeks?
https://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2013/03/04/joe-flaccos-record-contract-what-you.html
Even back then Joe's contract was well understood as all show. It was a contract with two bloated last years without guarantees that everyone understood would never be paid out. And that's exactly what happened. It was so news worthy because of it's total number.. which was more fluff than bite. He got his upfront guaruntee, and the rest was team friendly.
I mean look at this piece from the period.. https://www.nfl.com/news/joe-flacco-s-ravens-contract-includes-52m-guaranteed-0ap1000000146725
"As Breer pointed out on Monday's "NFL AM," Flacco's deal in essence is for three years. That's because he's due $29 million in the fourth year, which "will not be workable" unless the salary cap explodes once money from national television contracts kick in. Breer added that Flacco's 2013 salary cap number is less than half of New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady's. "He certainly did the Ravens a favor," Breer said on "NFL AM."
They negotiated an "extension" to rework the deal in 2016... because just as anyone following along knew, the prior deal was never going to actually play out.
You keep doing the same shit over and over... posting headline shit without any of the real context under it. What's with your boner for hating on the ravens lately with headlines instead of actually caring about the details? Did EDC drop a deuce on your doorstep last week? Did you get triggered by a Lamar Jersey on the streets?
The ravens are not as cheap as the begals... but are well known for letting talent walking vs over-paying. Sorry this wasn't in a headline you can just google for... but this 27yr inaugural PSL holder can explain to you.
Flacco's deal isn't even the kind of high priced deal most Ravens fans actually cringe over. More like the deals given to Jimmy Smith, Webb, or Ronnie Stanley (due to all the injury time)
Quoted from flynnibus:Even back then Joe's contract was well understood as all show. It was a contract with two bloated last years without guarantees that everyone understood would never be paid out. And that's exactly what happened. It was so news worthy because of it's total number.. which was more fluff than bite. He got his upfront guaruntee, and the rest was team friendly.
I mean look at this piece from the period.. https://www.nfl.com/news/joe-flacco-s-ravens-contract-includes-52m-guaranteed-0ap1000000146725
"As Breer pointed out on Monday's "NFL AM," Flacco's deal in essence is for three years. That's because he's due $29 million in the fourth year, which "will not be workable" unless the salary cap explodes once money from national television contracts kick in. Breer added that Flacco's 2013 salary cap number is less than half of New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady's. "He certainly did the Ravens a favor," Breer said on "NFL AM."
They negotiated an "extension" to rework the deal in 2016... because just as anyone following along knew, the prior deal was never going to actually play out.
You keep doing the same shit over and over... posting headline shit without any of the real context under it. What's with your boner for hating on the ravens lately with headlines instead of actually caring about the details? Did EDC drop a deuce on your doorstep last week? Did you get triggered by a Lamar Jersey on the streets?
The ravens are not as cheap as the begals... but are well known for letting talent walking vs over-paying. Sorry this wasn't in a headline you can just google for... but this 27yr inaugural PSL holder can explain to you.
Flacco's deal isn't even the kind of high priced deal most Ravens fans actually cringe over. More like the deals given to Jimmy Smith, Webb, or Ronnie Stanley (due to all the injury time)
TL;DR RENT FREE
Quoted from DudeRegular:TL;DR RENT FREE
That last post was only six paragraphs, came in under par.
Quoted from fosaisu:That last post was only six paragraphs, came in under par.
RENT FREE!
I love how you all prefer just straight shit talking instead of actual discussion.. but hey.. I guess that's why people like iceman/etc continue to be such celebrities. non-sense FTW
Quoted from flynnibus:RENT FREE!
I love how you all prefer just straight shit talking instead of actual discussion.. but hey.. I guess that's why people like iceman/etc continue to be such celebrities. non-sense FTW
There's something to be said for a little brevity, especially in a sports thread.
I actually read this entire post!
Quoted from flynnibus:RENT FREE!
I love how you all prefer just straight shit talking instead of actual discussion.. but hey.. I guess that's why people like iceman/etc continue to be such celebrities. non-sense FTW
This thread gets boring in the offseason.
Quoted from DudeRegular:This thread gets boring in the offseason.
Draft is less than a month away! Thread interest should definitely pick up soon.
Quoted from boscokid:Draft is less than a month away! Thread interest should definitely pick up soon.
Ya brother we gonna talk about the draft. We gonna talk about the sorry ravens. We may even talk about the Lions Brother! Rent Free 4 Life
Quoted from DudeRegular:Ya brother we gonna talk about the draft. We gonna talk about the sorry ravens. We may even talk about the Lions Brother! Rent Free 4 Life
Hulkster ?
Quoted from Jamesays:Hulkster ?
Wrestlemania in 4 days
I got Roman Reigns retaining the belts, the Usos losing theirs to KO/Sami, and John Cena losing to Austin Theory (due to shenanigans!)
Quoted from DudeRegular:. We may even talk about the Lions Brother! Rent Free 4 Life
I saw someone's made-up draft that had Lions getting Carter....with pick 18. Boy that would be a treat.
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