Highland Charter Township, MI
Starting to get mad at the Comcast TV / listing Guide . It always lists the 8:00 and 9:00 shows as NEW . But when I watch them it's like - wait - didn't I see that last week ? Or is it because they recap so much I can't tell !
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Quoted from hlaj78:Did the preview say that the lead cross dates to BC? How is that possible unless someone else is represented on it?
How can a cross date to BC? LOL, Before Christ? Make me question archeologists and carbon dating.
Quoted from jesster64:annnd I'm done. I watched 20 minutes in real time tonight. 10 of which were commercials. recap
"expert" says its a cross and its old.
They missed the vault, possibly dislodged it, so digging another hole
another "expert" says purple wood could mean its important. fabric the size of a stamp shows its a manuscript. leather could also mean its a book. In conclusion, its probably a holy religious book, which is BS because why would they bury an important book where water can get at it.
They found broken pottery in an old trash pit. Big deal, I can do that here and have done it many a time. just look for clam shells, they take a looong time to decompose and show where people threw trash out.
next week, they go slogging through swamp and find a post thats been cut. waste of freaking time.
And yet you wasted more of your time coming in here and posting.
I keep coming back to this thread to save my time watching the show and see if I missed the big discovery,
Nope!
As Ralphie says in Christmas Story, "skunked again."
I think last night's episode is proof that they don't show everything they pull up from the money pit. Last night's episode was the first that I've seen of that purple wood. Maybe I missed it, but guessing I didn't because they would have shown it during every commercial break in any previous episode.
So I think they'll hold back if they find anything significant.
Quoted from TenaciousT:Starting to get mad at the Comcast TV / listing Guide . It always lists the 8:00 and 9:00 shows as NEW...
Yeah a lot of channels do that now. Stupid "enhanced" versions of things that are basically the same. Basically DVR tricks...even worse are channels now are starting "sneak peak of next week" which gets recorded. Oak Island tacks it on to the end of there's which is better I guess.
The 8 episode is technically new because it it the “digging deeper” version o the previous weeks episode. I believe it just has little text blurbs added from the previous week. Yes I am a super dork and watch them both each week.
Quoted from TenaciousT:Starting to get mad at the Comcast TV / listing Guide . It always lists the 8:00 and 9:00 shows as NEW . But when I watch them it's like - wait - didn't I see that last week ? Or is it because they recap so much I can't tell !
Think its discovery. they add some pop up text in the show and call it 'new' I think its 'looking deeper' or something like that. Same thing with their other shows. Anything to get your eyes on their commercials
The real money pit will be the bag of receipts the Lagina brother's total up on the last episode in the series.
The purple wood was interesting.
Not just for its color, but it appeared to be unweathered or decayed.....all other wood darkens heavily, unless a fresh break.
Any ideas?
Quoted from Sinestro:And yet you wasted more of your time coming in here and posting.
but it feels good to vent.
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:The purple wood was interesting.
Not just for its color, but it appeared to be unweathered or decayed.....all other wood darkens heavily, unless a fresh break.
Any ideas?
yes, possibly planted. I also did not see when they discovered it.
Quoted from Sinestro:And yet you wasted more of your time coming in here and posting.
plus it makes me feel good feeding trolls. did you enjoy?
With the constant recaps for me it’s basically become background noise I can put on while doing other stuff and occasionally check in on when something new catches my ear.
Also, did I hear right that something happened to one of the guys sons? Did they talk at all about what happened other than he was leaving for the rest of the season?
Quoted from _KIRK_:Am I the only one who wants to pronounce Lagina like vagina? Probably.
Damn! Not now...lol.
Also have other word stuck in my head sounding like Lagina now. Lol.
A Google search of purple wood = Peltogyne or Purple heart . From Central and South America - extremely dense and water resistant . Also the hardest and stiffest of all wood . So maybe the Inca brought their gold and threw that down The Money Pit too .
If I had ever been allowed to look for treasure on oak island it would look like this now. The open sea. They would be saying, yea that was an island until that guy came along.
I say this because I would likely get excited, clear everything, and find possibly nothing. Accidentally ending the search and leaving open sea for the remaining generations. Whoops.
Quoted from TenaciousT:A Google search of purple wood = Peltogyne or Purple heart . From Central and South America - extremely dense and water resistant . Also the hardest and stiffest of all wood . So maybe the Inca brought their gold and threw that down The Money Pit too
That splinter wasn't purple heart, it was just died/stained wood. Purple heart is some weird looking stuff. so much so I just have a chunk on a book shelf.
Quoted from jesster64:plus it makes me feel good feeding trolls. did you enjoy?
You would be the troll in this circumstance.
Quoted from merccat:With the constant recaps for me it’s basically become background noise I can put on while doing other stuff and occasionally check in on when something new catches my ear.
Also, did I hear right that something happened to one of the guys sons? Did they talk at all about what happened other than he was leaving for the rest of the season?
His son had been on the show. He passed from a seizure(I believe they said) so it is hard for his father to continue. Sad.
There have been brief mentions of it on the show, but I wonder what the difference in sea level would have been in the 1600-1700s. There seem to be fixtures or workings currently under water but not far from the shore that (in my mind) would need to be on dry land to be created.
I also have no doubt that Samuel Ball found something during his time there. . . they did not exactly have the lottery back then. The show never discusses him in depth but to go from a former slave to suddenly buying up tracts of land on the island and living a wealthier lifestyle would suggest something of the sort.
I will admit I lost focus on the latest episode. . . was catching up on the laptop and honestly thought it was last weeks edition when they started by replaying the scenes with the younger Nolan and his father's maps (Perhaps that was the sneak peek last week?). Next thing I know they are digging up an old dump with the excavator.
We will see what next week brings. . . the finds seem to be getting smaller and smaller. Coins, bones, and other such historical pieces (I could have done without the cap gun) are fascinating but leather bits, pottery shards, and Lyme's Dz can only keep my attention for so long.
Did Rick/Marty ever get their quarter back that they dropped down into the H8 hole?
I felt a loss of enthusiasm from everyone when their big hole came up empty. Understandably so -- hopefully they can renew their interest (and mine) with something a little more substantial next time.
I still like watching the show. It's not life or death to me(like it seems it is to some of you folks) so I can just watch and enjoy. 
They should use some of this fancy LiDAR imaging to see what's underneath...
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/02/maya-laser-lidar-guatemala-pacunam/
...might make for a short season though.
EDIT> nevermind, LiDAR obviously traces the shape of the earth, not what's underneath it.
Quoted from Fytr:They should use some of this fancy LiDAR imaging to see what's underneath...
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/02/maya-laser-lidar-guatemala-pacunam/
...might make for a short season though.
EDIT> nevermind, LiDAR obviously traces the shape of the earth, not what's underneath it.
But as Hunting Hitler showed us, it may show areas in the dirt that may have once been dug up. Wouldn't help the money pit, but could help in creating more questions in other areas of the island. "A circular divot? On Oak Island? Could this be the works of Templar Knights? Or maybe a 10 year old with a shovel? Rick and Marty bring in an excavator and cut down 100's of trees to find out."
They never did say if they found the quarter they dropped in the hole before they started digging.
Anything thing that confuses me is why they decided to move so far away from H8 with the next hole. Their theory was that they caught the corner of the vault and pushed it to the side. If that's the case, why not dig another hole right next to the one you just dug? Why go 20' away from the hole?
Quoted from spfxted:They should leave a few modern coins and other crazy shit for the next group to find when they do a show 20 years from now....
Funny stuff. Maybe some animal bones and rocks with triangles etched in them.
Quoted from spfxted:They should leave a few modern coins and other crazy shit for the next group to find when they do a show 20 years from now....
Like some porn?
Could it be, glued magazine binding found? It must indicate a 1979 issue of swank! 
Quoted from Spyderturbo007:Why go 20' away from the hole?
Discovery/History channels paying for the new hold to draw out the show.
Honestly I struggle with the 'push theory' but giving it some thought its possible. They didn't get debris they expected and could have liquefied the cavity making it possible, however I think they hold back some info to 'add mystery' so its not easy to make easy sense of all of their decisions. I had the same question why their 'grid' had huge gaps, as if they were probing 'around' something.
Kitchener, ON
There’s been no further mention of the large piece of sheet metal that was hammered flat, and the big L bracket that they pulled up last year. Why not dig close to that location? H-8 wasn’t even close to that caisson.
Off topic I just watched this;
bbc stealing van gogh. very satisfying documentary, it makes me wonder if a slick documentary like this will be made someday about the whole island.
what we learned last night, at least one of their historical contacts is less than reliable. I had to watch that cross part a second time. I think that detector guy is shady and he seemed to 'know' she was wrong in her assessment. If i had to venture a guess, he knows because he found the cross and put it there. lol this shows a bit thin here at the end of the season. Its painting them as a bit less careful and pragmatic as they were in the first part.
Quoted from Taxman:They found another wooden post last night! So happy I watched!
A wood post??? Could it have been left by Templars??? Templars that may have hidden the ark of the covenant????? Could this post have once touched the remains of jesus christ????? or will carbon dating show this is just a fence post? A fence post that may have belonged to Samuel Ball??? the 18th century slave???? a slave that got inexplicably got rich and bought up land on oak island??? Could this post be the real treasure????
Some how it seems like they had about 3-4 episodes worth of footage, but they were contractually obligated to make 20 episodes.
With the show ending soon, I hope the answers will satisfy us all.
In other conversations, the dating of it as a Phoenician symbol of Tanit or Asherah, or the Tree of Life in the prison from Metatron/Reincarnation,
from 1300BC, and 1100 AD, seem to shake people.
The Tree of Life was part of early Christianity, through exiled Alexandrian Hebrews, and was reintroduced in the Kabbalah in the crusades.
Asherah/Tanit was part of Jewish sects, through the Samaritans, and possibly the Essene/Nazarene lore.
Essentially a counterpart to the male God figures as a female consort, both from Persian and Greek.
Some of the group outside Pinside, have trouble accepting any other meaning of the cross, other than Christianity, so we had series wide
doubt, insults, and slander seen, as a defensive posture.
If it does show an earlier prescience of Templars landing in the US....that would be an insane new theory to address.
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:With the show ending soon, I hope the answers will satisfy us all.
In other conversations, the dating of it as a Phoenician symbol of Tanit or Asherah, or the Tree of Life in the prison from Metatron/Reincarnation,
from 1300BC, and 1100 AD, seem to shake people.
The Tree of Life was part of early Christianity, through exiled Alexandrian Hebrews, and was reintroduced in the Kabbalah in the crusades.
Asherah/Tanit was part of Jewish sects, through the Samaritans, and possibly the Essene/Nazarene lore.
Essentially a counterpart to the male God figures as a female consort, both from Persian and Greek.
Some of the group outside Pinside, have trouble accepting any other meaning of the cross, other than Christianity, so we had series wide
doubt, insults, and slander seen, as a defensive posture.
If it does show an earlier prescience of Templars landing in the US....that would be an insane new theory to address.
I thought it was an early version of Gumby.
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:If it does show an earlier prescience of Templars landing in the US....that would be an insane new theory to address.
That was my point of contention. The 'historian' didn't seem to support any of the reasoning for how those conclusions could be even remotely reasonable. Maybe the show's edited to produce that effect and there was more in that discussion. However I didn't gather from the responses that that was really happening.
Since idolitry would not have been something the very Christian and very zealous Templar would likely allow, that connection just seems totally off the rails, and unsupported by any evidence in terms of travelers to this part of the world, in that time frame. Wild conjecture in my opinion, but guess the series will vet it out.
You mentioned other threads art, would be interested in seeing those if you can share here. I'm not putting my info down into another discussion venue, but might like to spectate a bit as I'm keenly interested in the topic.
Quoted from VacFink:That was my point of contention. The 'historian' didn't seem to support any of the reasoning for how those conclusions could be even remotely reasonable. Maybe the show's edited to produce that effect and there was more in that discussion. However I didn't gather from the responses that that was really happening.
Since idolitry would not have been something the very Christian and very zealous Templar would likely allow, that connection just seems totally off the rails, and unsupported by any evidence in terms of travelers to this part of the world, in that time frame. Wild conjecture in my opinion, but guess the series will vet it out.
You mentioned other threads art, would be interested in seeing those if you can share here. I'm not putting my info down into another discussion venue, but might like to spectate a bit as I'm keenly interested in the topic.
The view and creation of Templars, is not without debate.
Common statements were to protect the Christian Pilgrims who wish to visit Jerusalem.
While this was inherently true at the end of the history, in the beginning it was about the oral history of the Temple Treasures
hidden in the tunnels under the city (Copper Scrolls), as well as a return to their homeland.
The original movement, funding, etc, is in one theory, originally underwritten by the Jewish population,
and than propagandized through the Church, to become true. What was brought back, soon lead to the Protestant movement and indulgences.
Christianity during the years of say 800-1300 in the period of the Templars, was very different than we think today, and changed again, in the 1500's to the
King James Bible, which changed everything, yet again.
An easy example is the Star of David, found on churches, and is a Christian Symbol, prior to it being a Jewish symbol. (even the word "Jew", did not appear in writing until the middle 1700's!)
No idiolatry, but hard to say if this cross, say found in Jerusalem, would have been considered an ancient Christian Cross...a relic, thought to have been from Christs time. The peddling of Christ relics, took on full business after Queen Helena went on tour in 300 AD, so in the souk, as today, one can find a table with real and fake pottery, crosses, oil lamps, etc.
A bunch of dialogue I have is with personal friends..puzzle guys on this, but heres some for much more:
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/oak-island/
Quoted from gliebig:I thought it was an early version of Gumby.
I still thought the templar prison carving looked more like the atari 2600 E.T.
Which would make sense if they really do find those atari cartridges at the bottom of the money pit like mentioned! 
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:The view and creation of Templars, is not without debate.
Common statements were to protect the Christian Pilgrims who wish to visit Jerusalem.
While this was inherently true at the end of the history, in the beginning it was about the oral history of the Temple Treasures
hidden in the tunnels under the city (Copper Scrolls), as well as a return to their homeland.The original movement, funding, etc, is in one theory, originally underwritten by the Jewish population,
and than propagandized through the Church, to become true. What was brought back, soon lead to the Protestant movement and indulgences.Christianity during the years of say 800-1300 in the period of the Templars, was very different than we think today, and changed again, in the 1500's to the
King James Bible, which changed everything, yet again.
An easy example is the Star of David, found on churches, and is a Christian Symbol, prior to it being a Jewish symbol. (even the word "Jew", did not appear in writing until the middle 1700's!)
No idiolatry, but hard to say if this cross, say found in Jerusalem, would have been considered an ancient Christian Cross...a relic, thought to have been from Christs time. The peddling of Christ relics, took on full business after Queen Helena went on tour in 300 AD, so in the souk, as today, one can find a table with real and fake pottery, crosses, oil lamps, etc.A bunch of dialogue I have is with personal friends..puzzle guys on this, but heres some for much more:
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/oak-island/
Thanks Art. That's more historical support for that led object than the 'team historian' they talked to on skype. Looking at the shares now, good stuff, thanks for sharing.
Right now we’re here in the exploration.
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The end of season 4 had them finding steel from Gal-1
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If the most significant finds have been pulled from Gal-1 then why didn’t they focus the grid of 6” holes around that caisson? I almost think the treasure will be in the bottom left of the that map, or in the middle where there hasn’t been any 6” holes
Quoted from Luckydogg420:If the most significant finds have been pulled from Gal-1 then why didn’t they focus the grid of 6” holes around that caisson? I almost think the treasure will be in the bottom left of the that map, or in the middle where there hasn’t been any 6” holes
Exactly, not a single test hole next to the holes with the most interesting stuff. I imagine there some reason, but the show isn't making it clear. Its maddening. they drag out every show with repetition of conjecture about pirates and templars, the same sentences over and over and over again, but not a peep about how these decisions get formed and what evidence they are considering.
Quoted from VacFink:Exactly, not a single test hole next to the holes with the most interesting stuff. I imagine there some reason, but the show isn't making it clear. Its maddening. they drag out every show with repetition of conjecture about pirates and templars, the same sentences over and over and over again, but not a peep about how these decisions get formed and what evidence they are considering.
Gotta drag this out a few more seasons....
The real secret to Oak Island is there is no secret on Oak Island.
Quoted from whitey:They have a better chance finding old pinball parts then treasure !
Pinball parts on Qak Island? Could the Templars have come to Oak Island to produce an unlicensed pin? Was the treasure actually a POTC designed by none other than Captain Kid? Was the cross found actually a prototype for a plumb bob tilt mechanism.
Quoted from RWH:Pinball parts on Qak Island? Could the Templars have come to Oak Island to produce an unlicensed pin? Was the treasure actually a POTC designed by none other than Captain Kid? Was the cross found actually a prototype for a plumb bob tilt mechanism.
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