Thanks Bowen for posting this thread, it's a discussion that needs to be had and it's good to see there was positive action from it.

I posted my thoughts in 'that' thread too. I actually walked away from my computer and didn't want to look at the result or replies of my post, thinking I'd just be lambasted and insulted. When I finally did look, seen this thread that you created as a result of that thread, I felt encouraged and (believe it or not) relieved that there are those that feel the same and something good happened from it, albeit not necessarily as much as what is needed. In the very least, a serious discussion was had and that's great.