Please start the group off by telling your top secret secrets.

Yeah sorry, I stopped sharing too much info with people. Like Lloyd said, that was one of the things I learned the hard way. I'm self employed in a number of ways and started everything from nothing, with no help from anybody. It's very difficult and very risky, and people that go through that won't just give away what they learned. Too many people try to take your knowledge, copy you, and then try to become your competition. Why in god's name would anyone feeding their family with their life savings, balls and hard work want that?

I'll bet the 4 votes for group aren't operators but are people who want to learn from others' wealth of experience, without the risk and personal sacrifice it really takes. The only way any operator with brains is going to share info is if you hand over a huge pile of cash and buy their route.

This isn't meant to be directed at you Isochronic_Frost , it's just a partial explanation of my position. But if I don't answer all your questions please know it's not personal.