Quoted from zacaj:
Random thought: would one of the 2764 adapter boards work on an alltek?
It should if you modify it with the info from my page:
The seigecraft adapter plugs into the cpu socket so should intercept anything in the rom address range, but I'm not sure if the custom address decoder on the Alltek would interfere (it shouldn't).
Quoted from dri:
I have an Alltek board in my F2K at the moment but I have a spare Weebly I can use for this. I can also get a ROM burner when the time comes to with test and feedback. Please advise on what burner and ROM sets to acquire.
I use Minipro TL866CS, apparently discontinued and the replacement II version doesn't go up to 21v for programming older 2732 type chips. However, if you have a weebly board for this purpose, the extra socket is a 512 and either the 866cs or 866II would work if you got those chips. I just ordered 30 of these:
amazon.com link »
Based on Andrew's recommendation, as you would be able to skip buying a UV eraser since these are the eletronically eraseable version of the 512. I haven't received them yet but I'm sure they will be fine.
If you get the mini pro, it forces you to do an upgrade on the firmware when you first start it up - it will seemingly be frozen, DON'T UNPLUG IT. Let it sit for 5 minutes or so, then restart and it will be fine. Here is a review of the minipro which tilted me towards picking it up:
Quoted from pinball_ric:
If there isn't ample room left in the stock rom size I'd suggest just developing for the weebly board. Anyone who wants this would probably be fine with springing for a replacement/upgraded MPU. I know I would.
Well, part of the reason I even do this type of mod is the challenge of getting it to fit in the original space. Getting people to install rom mods is actually pretty difficult for some reason, and any bar to entry like having to buy a new board would make that even more difficult. I treat it like the demoscene for old computers, trying to wring the most performance and efficiency as I can out of it. For instance, in the 9ball project, I've saved more than enough room to implement the newer style Oliver ruleset in the stock romspace, just by more efficiently re-writing some routines. The savings available in Flight are minimal since the programmer used more efficient coding to begin with, but I still have some tricks up my sleeve to implement. Best of all, I don't have to depend on beta testers for this game like 9 ball since I own an f2k.
Quoted from Coyote:
Unfortunately the Alltek board is locked down, you're stuck with what is on it. (And I've heard rumors that he's against modifying his image to include other revisions.)
The NVRAM, barakandl 's board, freakin' ROCKS, and I highly recommend it. It CAN be switched out to run one of these custom ROMsets, PLUS give folks like slochar here extra space to add code and not be limited by the 4x 2716 address space!
The Alltek image has space in it to add romsets the format isn't that hard to figure out there's a spreadsheet floating around that listed out what's in there and you can tell from the pattern of dips where each will end up. The issue is that Alltek apparently will not honor their lifetime warranty if you modify the board in anyway (fair enough). I don't think he's against putting custom romsets, etc. in his product, since there are some there already, I just think he wants his ship to steer the way it's going, kind of automatically, and he can just collect the $$$ from the product. That's fine if that's his model, but eventually it's going to be chipped away and he'll have to change or leave. If you ask even avid hobbyists "what replacement board would you recommend" I'd say almost 80% of them would just say Alltek, even though Andrew/weebly's has the same boards available, cheaper. Funny how in the Williams Areans, Rottendog gets all the business, being the cheapest, but in the Bally/Stern world, it's all Alltek (probably because he was first to market with an all in one).
Quoted from dyopp21:
Following. And stupid question: how do I install a new ruleset? In most cases I'm using the Alltek board (or RD for Williams). I have several machines that have been mentioned here. Firepower, Meteor, Flight 2000...
You burn a new eprom for the game with the new code, which coyote will be setting up a website to host. AFAIK Rottendog boards for Williams don't even use the STOCK williams software, there's a slight mod to it for some reason. I never looked into it, every project I've bought with a RD in it I sell the board since my purpose is to do the modifications and that board is useless to me. See the other answer above for the Alltek issues.
I am slowly converting all my games over to the weebly board just for the convenience of the 512 socket. So far, there are 2 games that will use the expanded ram/rom capabilities of it, Stars rewritten with a mashup of sternmpu200 and wms pinbol style coding, and Black Hole with the same OS (that's a major long term work in progress as you can imagine.... a bally board in a gottlieb machine).
All of the game suggestions in this thread would be child's play to stick in the weebly as it sits but that encourages sloppy programming practices. By tightening up code on Meteor for instance I saved almost 1/4 of the stock romspace for the mods, and 9 ball so far I've saved about 200 bytes (which is coming from a full rom, so 200 bytes is very significant).