What are the eight songs?

I wonder if that's Sterns way of saying well theses guys spent more money so they get more bang? Plus, give it time, someone will hack the code and add 4 more song and change them for a small fee. I grew up in the 80's so I would rather hear "She's as cold as Ice" "Jessie's Girl" "Abracadabra " "Jump" "When Doves Cry" yes I know it's not everyone's taste but not everyone is a head banger. However, I love all kinds of music all the way up until. "What the heck are the words"?

sounds like you should have gone the premium/LE route.
perhaps that's one of the ways they are going to try and sell them due to soft interest.

Of course I have only seen some videos of Mustang, but I was wondering, which Ramones song did they use?

Megadeth's - 502
Cars- Who's gonna drive you home.
Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run
Golden Earing - Radar Love

Ramones!!! What song?

I hope its Blitzkreig Bop

I don't get how Stern works. If you promise 8 songs..then deliver 8 songs. All they are doing is creating bad publicity for themselves. Secondly the pro model is becoming more like a joke everytime they release a new title. Eventually the only thing the Pro model will have is a toilet seat and a toothbrush.....so you can brush the bad taste of your mouth and for you to take a ..... don't you worry you can upgrade to the Premium for a few sheets of toilet paper but you'll have to get the LE to get the entire roll.

I wonder how this model would work for instance at Porsche.... yes sir your car will include a 450 hp motor with AWD and a stabilizing spoiler..

*CAR ARRIVES* after the consumer has paid

I'm sorry sir...we swapped your motor with a 100 hp 2 cylinder Moped engine and glued on a kite to the rear end.

Enjoy your car....

That's ridiculous that Stern would intentional gimp the Pro by holding back songs! It's not like it doesn't have the storage space or the capability and it would help the game which hasn't been getting a lot of buzz from the collector's market and maybe even help sell more games for them.

"Metallic Pea ??!!",...... "I ordered Antarctic Blue !!"

Isn't the moving toy towards the back left area? Lots of things on a PF block the ball view. If you want the ball to be constantly viewed maybe grab an EM?

We shouldn't endorse Pro gimping when the features in question do not cost Stern extra money.

It's been out a week. The code will get flushed out. Relax. We all know it takes a while to get to the final version...

If you willingly buy a stern on the first week of release, this is the pill you choose to swallow...

Must have Radar Love on any driving game.

Yeah, its just called marketing. I'd be bummed too if I ordered the pro and got 4 out of 8 songs, but overall its just songs, not like they took out a ramp or anything crazy. Crank up the stereo and make playlist of those 4 songs while playing Mustang

Also, I am missing where they said specifically the pro itself has 8 songs?

Yeah but it doesn't cost them anything to put the songs in the Pro; bad decision IMO.

I see. Where is it on Stern's site or any record of it on Stern's site prior? I think that'd be more important than an article that potentially didn't clarify as clearly?

Motörhead finally made it into a pin. Yessssssss!

Licensing songs costs money. The Pro is cheaper, so it got costs cut. I highly doubt you're going to see more songs added in an update, that would mean Stern paid for an increased license for the game you already bought.

The Pro is meant for location, where song variety isn't as important. If you're at home and want the full selection pay for the Premium, which is the home model.

Not saying I agree with all that necessarily, but that does appear to be the reality.

No, it's not called marketing, it's called lying. 4 != 8

Cutting four licensed songs from the game is a huge omission. Especially when the four songs that were included aren't even all that great. Only one that I enjoyed in the context of the game was "Free Ride"

The official flyer says the PRO gets 4 songs. Did you see an official pro flyer that said 8?

http://www.sternpinball.com/upload/Games/mustang/Mustang65ProFlyer.pdf

aurich made my point... a little more eloquently.
you bet they have to pay a license fee on the songs. and transformers was going to have an actual transforming character if you watch their promo video. things change. could have had a cost overrun at the last minute and the savings of the license fee for songs was the only way to get it under budget.
there's always pinball browser that you can add 4 of your absolute favorite songs to the game that fit the theme.
It's a pinball machine. not a jukebox.
And like I said initially --- sales are soft on this title so far. I work for a distributor and we haven't sold a single one yet. so perhaps it is a ploy to move people to the more profitable LE/premium.

even 8 songs is too few, 4 is just ridicules

8-10 on the pro and 10-12 of the LE/Premium

This song fiasco is all that is holding me back from opening my wallet

Ahh ok, so the press release was vague... deliberately? who knows, but makes me question their intent.

What are the other four (replacement) tunes in the game, and what are their lengths? If the slots are sufficiently long enough, they can be replaced with proper music using PinballBrowser.

Does it just play the main theme music for the other 4 modes or no music at all? Pretty lame either way! Is there any way to sub your own songs in for the missing 4 songs?

Can't tell until we see the rom on Sterns site.

I played the game last weekend but was hard to tell what the music was besides a couple songs.

I highly doubt the amount of songs on this game will matter for sales....

Yes it does. Licensing songs from various artists costs $$$$ ...Unlike Metallica, where they're just paying the band in an overall deal, they have to pay each individual artist royalties per game. Less songs on the Pro was most likely indeed a cost cutting measure.

Maybe if the Stern developers see this they can do owner's a solid and at least put placeholders into the code for the four modes of the that are missing unique songs (of the correct song length) so that owner's can sub the 4 missing songs in themselves and Stern can avoid having to pay extra royalties? Win/Win!

Dude, relax!!!

Perhaps the other will come in a update!!

Perhaps they will add even more than 4 over time!!

How do you know the premiums don't have 4 songs only too?? Have you played a premium? Has anyone!?

If they said it will have 8 songs: IT WILL.

If they say it will have a "End of the Line Wizard Mode" IT WILL!!

Now, you may have to wait 2 months to 2 years for them to flush out all the features and get it in top form, but again, THIS IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE OF HOW STERN WORKS.

Does it suck? Sure!! Should they release games with 2.0 code with every bell and whistle ready? Sure!! BUT THEY DONT. And we know it!!!

SO AGAIN....

When you willingly buy a stern on release week , it's safe to expect that you are getting a game with 30-40% of it's total operational ability. This could include code, songs, lighting, animations..

If you buy week 1... Or even year 1... This is your burden to bear.

I don't think Premium or LE owners would care....but the musicians who'd want proper royalty payments would.

LOL...here we go with the "blocking of the ball" again. The Pro has a car on a platform. The Prem has a car on a platform (but the platform is transparent and rotates). How does the PRem block anything more than the Pro?

Well...

If they said in a press release that it would have 8 songs and then did. Last minute change-a-too to 4 songs... Yeah that sucks. If they eventually get to 8... No problem... But if it stays at 4 forever: no bueno.

I can understand a pro not having some physical features, bit holding out on songs on propose seems wrong.

Let's hope they come in an update sometime soon.

Official press release says 8 songs. So if you ordered with that, that's a commitment they should honor.

I wonder if you have just add whatever you want anyway using PB?

Jaz

I sense sarcasm, but you shouldn't instantly pop on a game until the company itself clarifies more detials. has your pro shipped? If not, just cancel the order asap and end all this. Really simple.

lol for once we totally agree. Lots of pinball machines "block the ball". If they didn't block the ball they'd be an EM

Don't mean to be a downer here, but I assure you they are not interested in your $20 for adding the songs

Maybe a more realistic solution. Rather than asking stern to add the 4 songs just ask that they repeat the 4 songs already in the game for those modes. So each song works for 2 modes. In this case you would then be able to replace the songs for each mode with the browser as the code will already be there on when to play a set song.

This is assuming that they cut the song list for cost reasons (wont be added in) and that the code isn't there already to play songs and the sound file is just missing.

Seems to be a good compromise if adding the same songs isn't an option.

Not so much disagreeing here but don't tell that to a WOF owner. Stern has gotten better but they still remove things and don't finish some items that were supposed to be there on some games. If this doesn't sell well they may do the same to it code wise as some of their other low sell games. This is why I have vowed to not buy any Pinball machine (no matter the manufacture) until I have played it and was OK with the game as it stood. Means I'll lose out on the next Tron LE if one ever comes as I wont be pre-ordering anything and will have to wait to pay merket value at the time but I'm more willing to absorb that risk then the other. I feel bad for the OP here as he thought it would have 8 when it sounds he ordered and it came with only the 4.