It won't last long top 50 maybe...

I agree. There's too many hard core old-schoolers that I don't think give the new Stern's a decent shot. I bet people will vote it down just from pictures of it.

only time will tell,
with the new-ness factor and more people finding it

The real problem is that anything under 50 ratings shouldn't qualify. With under 10 ratings it's WAY too easy to skew the numbers.

If all machines needed 50 ratings, there would barely be a top 100.

How about 20?

25 would be a more accurate amount of ratings as it would average out the highs and lows and less chance of 2 or 3 ratings skewing the whole ratings for the game!

Then there wouldn't be a top 200.

The number of ratings is fine. Over time games start to settle where they belong. I wouldn't sweat it.

I thought I had already reviewed Iron Man, but I hadn't. I added my review to the mix, as I'm sure others are right now. We'll see how it shakes out.

What is not cool is when someone see an anomaly (perceived or real) in the rankings and they try to change them by submitting bogus scores. In time the games will find their places in the ratings, so it's best to just give you most honest score and see how it plays out.

I think you are right Jar155 over time it works out.It is not cool when someone gives an unaccurate rating up or down.

I give all the games a 10, because pinball is awesome. Just kidding. I use the comments more rather than rankings if I want to see if I might like a game. It will come down in time. It would be nice if Stern came out with a game that challenged the top ten though.

I agree. And I immediately dismiss any comment which says "It's not a Williams" or some such.

I look at other pinballers personal ratings table to get a general idea where they slot games up against each other....and see if they have as good taste as myself

Currently Iron Man is sitting in 22nd position on my personal ladder.

I would like to see Stern do more games that would make top ten too vt8man,they have LOTR in top ten and Spiderman might get there as well as TSPP is very close! Spiderman is my alltime favorite pin.

Spiderman is an awesome pin, I know this now that I own one. I also love Williams pins most. There is no way in my opinion that Iron Man is anywhere near as good as Spider Man.

IM will drop down the list as more people play it. Especially the ones who aren't biased because they own it. And then there are the "Stern Haters." While a good game, I don't consider it an A lister. Top 50 definitely but not top 10 or even 20. There just isn't enough going on and there are a bunch of mechanical/design issues which annoy me. Such as, there are at least 4 locations on that playfield where the ball routinely gets hung up and has to be nudged loose (and that is with a steep PF setting.)

I personally think that for any games rating to actually be counted they should at least have 100 ratings. Just so you get a true average from more than 10 people, who either own the game or just love the iron man movie.

I have personally played the game and gave my honest opinion of it. I know for some games 100 ratings is unrealistic. But in that case they shouldn't be counted. Or just averaged out in another section because of the lower number of ratings. Sorry IM fans, but it doesn't even place in the top 100 for me. But other games on the top 100 don't honestly belong in some spots either.

Take a game with 100 or more put those in tier 1 of top 100,
then 75-100 below that tier 2
50-75 tier 3
25-50 tier4
1-25 last on list tier5

A game that everyone has been able to play for 20 years has a much better sample. Iron Man should have a following, but he's only been on the pinball scene for a few months. In the "League of Justice", it seems like Spiderman and Batman do better currently. To be honest, I think a Shazam pin would kick all their asses. Never seen one of those.

Roger Stern is the author of Iron Man. That's pretty wild, considering it's Stern pinball. Get him to sign your Stern superhero pin backglass. Shazam!

Your comments about how you like/dislike the game means more to me than the rating. Of course I want my games on the top, you should be in touch with your games. To be honest, I'm just glad I have an arcade in my basement. Of course you have TZ, and it's better than my TOTAN. Hard to say one game is better than the other.

Speaking of misplaced machines....... how 'bout the $900 bang-for-your-buck Big Bang Bar currently in #2 place? How do I get a BBB for $900?????

I don't know why Stern games don't perform well on the list. Even accounting for sample bias from MM, AF etc. owners and Stern haters, Stern games seem to drop unnaturally low. NASCAR / Grand Prix isn't as deep as White Water perhaps, but they're both great pins that are fun to play. Stern games are competently designed and are at least as good as mid-90s Bally & Williams machines. For my money though, they haven't had a truly great masterpiece other than Simpsons though...

Yeah, Spiderman is probably my favorite game. But I was never a Stern hater.
I also never got into that Ford vs. Chevy vs. Mopar BS with muscle cars. That is just a bunch of marketing brainwashing. I just shut my ears once someone utters the words "X brand is best and Y sucks because it is a Y." I love my Mustang but I would sell it in a heartbeat for anything faster, no matter which brand it is.

Robin,I played Family Guy again today great game I like it better every time I play it!Spiderman is slightly better game and a better theme,for me anyway!!

Robin....don't forget all the bad licenses that Data East (and Sega) had, that turned into some great games ala Last Action Hero and Lost in Space.