Not always true.

But thanks for the downvote.

If you can't pack it..... Don't ship it

Easy answer.

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Yeah, looks like most of the destruction came after they "salvaged" it.

I apologize, I haven't read the whole thread but if you can get the insurance claim through, contact Stern. You'd be surprised what extras they keep in the warehouse.. I'm betting they can piece a new cab together for you. Just save the LE plate, pf and boards from the wreckage of you can. I se to recall them helping another gentleman out a few years ago with his LOTR LE in a similar scenario.

Sorry for your loss

Probably just picked up everything off the highway and threw it in a dumpster or something. Sad.

You are welcome. Don't take the down vote personnel. It's only pinball after all.

Unfortunately, in the pinball wasteland known as Canada that's just not an option for a lot of people looking to acquire some nice games to play.

wow this is really too bad, was the driver ok?

Will admit I'm not reading 3 pages of post to see if this was covered so I apologize in advance if I'm off base here.

If you or the buyer gets the game back and parts it out I would like any unbroken plastics on the game. I specifically would like the band members if they are unbroken to. I need a new Angus leg and I'm not interested in buying a whole new kit for just the one part Interested in the bell assembly (if unbroken) to as I'd like to have a spare in case mine breaks (seen it happen on a few games).

Sorry this happened to you and the buyer. Hopefully it all gets worked out.

funny after over 100 posts, someone asked if the driver was ok.

okay - some math here.... How Many BIBLE's were made ? was it 500 and something like 400 LTBR....

I heard 1/2 of the BIBLE's went to Australia? rumor? if so, that's 250 stateside.. and now I hear we're down to 248.... The value of everyone else's BIBLE just went up a "tick". Just trying to make light of a crappy situation. No one asked about the driver.. is he okay... hopefully just his pride is hurt.

RIP, pouring one out.

It's never the driver's fault, always a woman on her cellphone.

My BIBLE says 168 of 300

Only 500 LE's produced total. 300 BIB, and 200 LTBR. That's it that's all. Sorry for the loss!

300 BIBLE, 200 LTBR. 100 BIBLEs to Oz, 100 to Europe and 100 in North America is my understanding.

@pingod just wondering if you got this game used from Nitro Amusements in BC?

Driver is OK, but apparently he DID spill his beer

I'd pour one out for him, but it seems like we're just wasting beer now.

All pins have a few cabinet nicks here and there. Need to run diagnostics though

If it was YOUR $11,000 game that just beefed it, would that really be the first thing on your mind?

Yes. Pinball machine is a materialistic possession that can easily be replaced a life can not be. The driver "could" have been an innocent party in the accident (got cut off, ran into, tire blown out, etc) and could easily have a family with kids. Condolences could be in order but also wont stop business so after I asked that question my next one would quickly move to recourse on my losses.

I also would never ship a $11K toy without insurance though.

The driver also "could" be fine, in fact he most likely is.

Do you think the driver's family is concerned about my AC/DC pinball machine?

You have a great attitude. I'm not saying I wouldn't come around to wondering "hey, I hope the guy is ok," but I don't think my first reaction would be to ask the shipping agent if the driver is ok when I got the call that my $11,000 pinball machine was just involved in a rollover. Just being honest.

Does anyone know how much it costs to insure a pin for shipping?

I'm not even sure what to say...I mean they did say they tried and nobody would insure it.....
@The buyer.....just wondering...if shipping was not an option....would you have drove to get it or just pass...???...........Joey

Depends on the shipper. Day and ross for example, will give a standard $2 per pound. You can up to $3 or in some cases $5, but that's it. You can outsource insurance or can make a claim on home insurance personal items if your policy allows and they have been forewarned of the shipment.

Lots of loop holes and grey area in the shipping business.

Oh, and if you want to be a sheep to the flock, downvote this post as well because apparently my input is horrible and comes with 0 experience.

Guess my assumption is that if you can afford to drop $11K on a pinball machine losing that cash is more of a minor inconvenience and your life wont be altered all that much. I get what your saying though

As part of shipping. Couple hundred bucks for this $$$ amount. ***edit** shipping in Canada may be more expensive or different than how it is done in the US.

As part as insuring your collection - less than a buck a day. Think it cost me an extra $20 a month or so to add them to my premium.

100% pass unless I was OK with taking the loss. Shipping is a gamble without insurance. Accidents happen everyday which is further compounded by the number of employees that work for a lot of these shippers that could care less about taking care of your stuff.

For NAVL, I think it's free up to $1500 value, and then you pay around 50 bucks to double or triple that. I've never shipped a game worth over that amount so not sure what an AC/DC LE would go for.

Depends on who, but it's about $100 to $150

Sometimes it's way cheaper to use an outside insurer like Shipsurance than to use the insurance offered by the freight company, and independent insurers do international no problem.

http://www.shipsurance.com/

Use an international freight forwarder that also has a domestic trucking operation. They are all insured and love to sell addl insurance. I speak from experience.
They do however charge more for less than truckload shipments.

Kinda like Sweden then, its either very rare, far, far away or way overpriced LOL

Wondering how a material possession can itself be overly concerned with material possessions...

The pin has now been shipped to their storage facility in Hartland, NB. Unfortunately it looks like it is getting worse treatment as it is shipped. Just shrink wrap to a under sized skid. I have contacted Stern, no parts to build a replacement, & they say the license has expired. The remains will stay there by law for up to 9 months. As the owner decides whether to take legal action. $2 a pound.

This game was #181 I had it ,Pingod got it from me ,it's so sad this happen too it ,it was a great playing game I enjoyed it very much

Not even a blank black cab until someone comes up with stencils or decals? Bah. Maybe in 9 months and a day.

You are forgetting about all the other cargo that hit it during the entire wreck. Thats a lot of cannonballs to smash into a game no matter how it is packaged.

that's exactly what they did. On at least 3 occasions in the past year, UPS has destroyed packages and simply stuck the parts into another envelope or box with no explanation whatsover. One was a cabinet for storing pinball project parts, and they took a box 3 times the size and just tossed the parts inside loose. You could literally see forklift wheel marks on at least 4 of the wooden pieces. Shipping companies don't give a F*CK!

Nope they sure don't. Insurance is a joke as well -- they always find a way out of it.

I'll say it again; Insurance COmapNies are your friend, until something goes wrong. Look at Insurance COmpaNy corporate offices. Completely fenced in with barbed wire. Gatehouses and reinforced gates or pop up posts in the driveway, Like at the White House (not the sub shop in Atlantic City either), FBI offices or Yankee Stadium.

There's a reason they have this. "Happy" customers....

I'm looking for a set of rails and a lockbar if they servived

Here's how freight is treated at my local airport

must have been nearly smoko time ........ Bunch of tossers!

I hate to defend my industry here as in many cases I agree they will try to get out whenever they can. However in this case there was no insurance purchased so hard to pin that on the insurance company or the freight company for that matter. I believe the $2/pound has held up through contracts fairly well. Not sure how successful a challenge would be. However the owners house insurance should have some coverage for contents in transit. Maybe he didn't have house insurance either though?

Latest developments for me as the shipper.

http://www.maaca.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20487

Insurance companies are definitely known to screw over customers to save themselves a penny but honestly ask yourselves if you (or someone you know) hasn't ever tried to screw over an insurance company.
And even if you don't know anyone who has... there are people out there who make a living out of exactly that.
Gotta be a tough business.