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On beam kicker assembly issue

By DGlovespinball

9 months ago


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#1 9 months ago

Hello. Bally On Beam 1969
Thanks for being there.
Kicker assembly is either holding ball with continuous scoring and bell or not recongnizing the ball. But the item has stopped kicking back. What can I do to test connection? Also included in picture was below the kicker assembly on the underbelly of the play field.
How wide should that be. What kind of setting should that be on ? It was super wide then it was moved tighter. This is mistake after mistake here. #onbeam

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#2 9 months ago

What's the Pocket Trip relay doing when this happens?

#3 9 months ago

Nothing is happening.

#4 9 months ago

That long switch with the weight is a tilt switch. That should be open if I'm reading the schematics correctly. I would bend that back to where it was.

There is another switch by the coil that you should check.

#5 9 months ago

I would also check continuity on the coil with a multimeter.

#6 9 months ago

the switch for the kicker is circled in red , is it gapped properly ?

does the plunger move freely ? looks like there might be some schmoo around where it enters the coil sleeve

Quoted from thirdedition:

I would also check continuity on the coil with a multimeter.

Not a bad idea as well , there should be a very low resistance on the coil itself , no resistance (or a dead short ) is bad. No continuaty at all isn't great either

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#8 9 months ago

Thanks for the thoughts here.
I'm fairly new to the hobby and trying to absorb all the new info. Thanks to everyone who has offered tactics to get to a solution.

The kickback moves freely by hand but somehow it seems to not recognize the ball in the hole.

Question. If the ball is in the kickback hole and counting points. Does that mean it's reacting with the kick back assembly or are those point accumulation and kick back separate functions?

If I discover that the kick back assembly is broken or shorted is that easily replaceable.?

If I discover a short will I need to rewire the entire loop of the wires for that specific mechanism.?

I've got the schematics. Will review all the advice given above. I don't have all the right tools to figure this out so I will need some time to get this sorted.

Thanks!

#9 9 months ago
Quoted from DGlovespinball:

Thanks for the thoughts here.
I'm fairly new to the hobby and trying to absorb all the new info. Thanks to everyone who has offered tactics to get to a solution.
The kickback moves freely by hand but somehow it seems to not recognize the ball in the hole.
Question. If the ball is in the kickback hole and counting points. Does that mean it's reacting with the kick back assembly or are those point accumulation and kick back separate functions?
If I discover that the kick back assembly is broken or shorted is that easily replaceable.?
If I discover a short will I need to rewire the entire loop of the wires for that specific mechanism.?
I've got the schematics. Will review all the advice given above. I don't have all the right tools to figure this out so I will need some time to get this sorted.
Thanks!

If it is scoring points that to me means the switch is working. As stated above you need to take a look at the pocket trip relay. It may just be a case of dirty switches.

If by rewiring you mean running completely new wires to everything, no that is hardly ever needed. You may have to do some soldering though depending on the problem.

If it was all working before, I wouldn't suspect a short, unless other things were done.

#10 9 months ago
Quoted from DGlovespinball:

If I discover that the kick back assembly is broken or shorted is that easily replaceable.?
If I discover a short will I need to rewire the entire loop of the wires for that specific mechanism.?

You most likely have the opposite of a short circuit. In electricity jargon that would be called an open circuit. Which as thirdedition correctly said:

Quoted from thirdedition:

If by rewiring you mean running completely new wires to everything, no that is hardly ever needed.

4 months later
#11 4 months ago

This ON BEAM is back and working great ! Thanks for all the help and thoughts.

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