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On Beam - EM Newbie

By Whistler

2 years ago


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#12 2 years ago

Greetings, Whistler ! That's a very nice looking On Beam you have there.
I do see a problem on your relay reset cam (the long shaft on the left in the bottom of the cabinet) - you might want to check out this thread:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/bally-reset-bank-clutch-fix
Yours is missing a piece on the middle red cam. Both cams should look identical.
Often there are problems with the springs inside the cams, too. It's a tricky assembly to get working correctly.
I suspect there are a lot of On Beams out there that seem to work OK, but actually have malfunctioning reset cams.

There isn't a real "fix" yet for all the issues with the reset cam, but we may be able to offer some advice to help you try to get it working correctly.

Definitely worth fixing - you have a really clean copy of an uncommon game. Mine is pretty nice, too, but not quite as nice as yours!!! Good find!!!

#15 2 years ago
Quoted from Whistler:

I see that thread is a little older but do you happen to still have any of the replacement plastic bits you had 3d printed available to purchase?

I have a few, and I'd be happy to send you a cam (the larger barrel-shaped part that's missing on your middle cam). PM me your address and I'll send you one to try out.
The biggest problem is the darned springs. If your springs are worn out or "sprung", the cams are not going to work correctly even with all new plastic parts. Your spring looks OK in the picture, but it still could be a problem. I just haven't been able to make a spring that works correctly yet.
The little "tabs" on the spring should be approximately 180 degrees from each other, and the spring should be tight and not have any gaps or spaces between the coils. It should fit on the metal clutch body snugly, and should only rotate freely in one direction when you turn it with your fingers on the clutch body. It should instantly grip and not turn when you rotate it in the other direction. Spring clutches are unique applications of torsion springs, not really using the spring force at all, but only the ability of it to grip or slip on a shaft as needed.
It should look like this picture:
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Quoted from Whistler:

Alternatively, do you think it’s possible to get it working without that bit?

Not without a major redesign of the part. There aren't too many ways to independently reset each half of the relay bank. You'd might be able to somehow make it use two solenoid-operated reset banks similar to Gottlieb drop target reset mechs.
It would be a major headache, but if someone did it and it wasn't too expensive, we'd all buy it for our On Beams!
Here's another picture of the clutch assembly for reference.

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