Just because racism and Islamophobia are widespread, that's no reason I have to accept it.

Racism again ?

not sure what else to call it when a person confuses being Arab-looking with being Muslim with being a terrorist, and then spams snore icons when i point out that it's an extremely ignorant thing to do.

You definitely are not going to pull me into this conversation any further so you may as well stop trying to. May as well just drop it for real.

seeing lots of thumbs down and zero attempts to refute anything i've said.

I can refute 99% of whatever you post on a regular basis, but I just don't care enough. Plus, you are never wrong, so whats the point?

Very nice!

Hmm, are those real women? I mean you are in Vegas i just don't know

Robin needs to add a Super Zoom function for images on pinside

aka: The Pinside Way..

Close but no cigar...

Policy is policy. I want them to follow it under every circumstance. If we allow agents to descretionarily pick and choose how and when to follow procedure it will invevitibly lead to two things; racial profiling claims and some form of security breach. So many people have no idea what is or is not allowed through security, I see it all the time. Also take a look at Johny Knoxville and how he dresses up as an old man. What stops a young terrorist from doing something similar? The easiest and most effective approach is to follow policy to the letter no matter the circumstances.

I'll take the your bait. Islamophobia is not real. A phobia is an irrational fear. People have good reason to be afraid of Islam. Here's a website that tracks Islamic terror acts: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

As you can see during the last 30 days 1168 people have lost their lives in 177 Islamic terror attacks. We're two days into Ramadan and the death toll is already over 80.

As others have correctly pointed out, Islam is not a race.

Despite your bad experience I hope you enjoy your vacation.

Post more pics of your trip and the odd people you run into on the strip, we will all forgive you. As for your ordeal at TSA

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Im pretty sure accusing people of racism, discussing politics, and religion are forbidden in the forums...so...there's that

Okay, and over a thousand Iraqi and Syrian civilians have died from American bombings this year. Is that Christian terrorism, or just an ethical whoopsie? I mean, the number of Americans dead on US soil from right-wing militants is at least equal to the number of Americans dead from Islamic militant attacks in the last decade and a half, is it rational to be afraid of right-wingers?

CSB - Trying to add some humor to this thread, Pre 9/11 my 79(1989 or so) year old grand mother, made the mistake when going through the metal detector at DFW airport made the mistake of telling the gate keepers, check me careful, I might have a bomb. Long story short, they in fact did. Long search in a small room.

Well - discussing politics and religion are actually forbidden.
So... how about ending now this discussion about religion? Please keep the thread on track. Thanks zr11190 for the post below, and hope you can now enjoy your vacation...

... and it seems you actually do!

With regards to Las Vegas, does anyone else find it kind of fascinating to just look at all the weird, fake-real architecture? I like wandering around the big indoor mall at Caesar's Palace, with the fake sky ceiling. My aunt lives in Vegas so I went there a lot as a kid and the sound of slot machines gives me major nostalgic feelings.

Seriously how does this guys pic with the dancers on the strip not have more upvotes!?! That was sweet!

I composed most of this hours ago before the mod request. It's not arguing, it's just food for thought, so I hope it's okay to post:

"Look like Muslims" is one the most ignorant phrases extant. For instance, Sikh men, with their unshaven beards and turbans, "look like Muslims" more than the majority of Muslims do, and it has gotten many beaten or killed by FITH ignoramuses. There is a Sikh temple right next door to the daycare I own and I worry infinitely more about wack jobs attacking them than I do about the Sikhs themselves. They are the most peaceful people, as indeed are most Muslims.

Most Islamic terrorism is visited upon opposing sects of Islam.

Most radicalized Muslims are not even particularly religious themselves at the time they are radicalized.

Cancer deaths in this country (US) amount to the equivalent of a 9/11 every couple of days. I am in no way equating the causes of death; I know all too well the helplessness of sudden violence taking a loved one (my wife died in a wreck in 2010) but dying slowly while bank accounts drain, homes are lost, and pain increases is no picnic either. The money spent on each problem is ludicrously disproportionate.

My wife loved going on cruises. We always drove because she hated flying (WI to Miami was quite a haul) but on our last one, a few months before the accident, we tried it, and boy, were we rookies! We had like a case of soda loose in our carry-ons, and while we were quite embarrassed, the TSA didn't even find them all! They didn't even pull us aside!

Then our last trip was to Vegas, coincidentally. We didn't pack any soda this time! With our then-7-year-old daughter in tow, we didn't do much Vegas-y stuff. I got to go to the PHOF a couple times. The best part for the whole family was the old west attraction called Bonnie Springs Ranch outside of town. My wife twisted her ankle navigating the "mine" and that fact saved us when we were late to the airport to go home. We would have missed our flight as the TSA line must have been 1000 people long, but we asked for a wheelchair for her and next thing we knew we were whisked through the separate handicapped line in no time flat!

Dammit! And JUST when I had formulated an intelligent response to Pezpunk that was rational and made a lot of sense!

Oh, well...rules are rules.

Like it or not TSA has a pretty important job to do and it's pretty much all we've got, at least when we fly. They've done a pretty good job so far or we've been lucky. I support them though I know what a pain in the butt it can be.

I remember in the old days at Byrd airport (now RIC) you could walk out very near the airplane ticket or not. The sound of a Connie starting up 30 feet away was awesome.

You were up late last night. Ha!

Yea, so long as there is not pure nudity post them, if they are against the site rules for some reason I'll just delete them.

Uh oh.

As long as you have money, visiting Las Vegas is always enjoyable. Whether to eat a nice meal, do something touristy, play golf, play pinball, gamble, buy something you don't need, get laid, drive an exotic or collectible car etc.

I know some amish that were thought to be muslim by crazy people after 9/11. Similar thing happened after WWII. People thought amish were nazis.

Not really a point to that but it came to my mind after the talk of profiling muslims.

So when you leave the airport follow the instructions and take everything out of your pockets . Pretty simple...otherwise they have the right to pull you into the back. Amazing how people can't follow simple instructions then bitch about it.

Also, if they do want to take you aside for any reason your wife has the right to request it be done by an officer of the same gender. This rule deflates the argument that they are perv guys going after women.

Know your rights and exercise them calmly.

Amazing how people have to chime in with the same point that has already been made four times in the thread.

Like it isn't sad it has come to this. I think he was just saying it was a bad start to his trip, he wasn't asking to be harangued. His wife thought she had removed everything from her pockets. Why couldn't she have just handed over the fin and stepped back through the scanner? I'd be pissed too. It is naive to think those TSA agents aren't on a power trip, and we're all expected to blissfully go along with it, as if it's even accomplishing anything.

All over superstition. Nice.

At my work we have more perv women going after women than men. I was in women's locker room and the building contact (female) came in and said who's in here watching you and I asked who's watching you.

Superstition?

Yes.

OP, your last couple of picture posts could have been seen at "people of Walmart". No need to travel all the way to Vegas for that .

On a more serious note, holy cow, some people here need to stop, takes like three 5 second deep breaths, and think before they post. I would bet my AFM that many, MANY things posted here would never get said face to face. Three of the four pages of this thread is completely superfluous. There's a great big world out there, and sometimes I wonder if we sit on here and bitch/fight more than we even play pinball.

That's exactly what I said... but..ya know.. #Pissside.

Keep the pics coming ZR! They are very interesting to say the least. I guess I need to get out more but some of those pictures make me glad that I don't lol.

Goddamn James nice pics but I hope you realize you are supposed to tip all those people!!!! That guy isn't playing guitar in a banana hammock for his health!

I will take you up on that, i would'nt mind having a AFM.