If you love ramps, go with WW. That game has actual flow where OKT is an absolute clunkfest. WHY DOESN'T AP DO WHITEWOODS? Cuz if they did then they would know their games have zero flow. One of my biggest issues with Houdini while I owned it was that the damn milk can shot was only makeable by accident. Played a few dozen games of OKT and while I commend the effort for originality, it just wasn't any fun. Both ramp shots are barely makeable.