So, driving up to Traverse City to pick up a Fire Champagne Ed. that was sold to me late Saturday night.

I told him that it was sold and wanted to send money that day by PAYPAL or however he wanted it as Sunday was mothers day and wouldn't be able to pick it up until Tuesday. He tells me no need and its mine. I insist and he says no we are good.

Call him and headed up and guess what he tells me...

He was hounded and finally gave in. Just loaded it in the guys truck.

Wonder who it was? Won't be hard to find out as not many Champagne editions will be for sale and not around here anyway.

Just got off the phone with the guy so I am steaming. So, f u to that bastard that screwed me

His words...He kept telling him it was sold but he kept hounding him. Has to mean he threw more money at him to break the deal is all I can think.

Why do you have to second guess me? Seems like you are calling me a liar. I was first and confirmed sale from him. Do you know who loaded it up then? Maybe I can assume you are diffusing in his defense then. I can give you his number if you want to call. Why give it to me when sold to.someone else?

Anyway... should have not even brought it up just emotions got the best of me. Second time its happened to me in the past six months and I reacted.

Funny, seems the best way to get a pin is have the seller make a deal with someone else then swoop in with a higher offer. The seller says great I got more than I wanted and you don't allow the.original deal maker to pay more than you and create an auction.

Funny what people do behind anonymity. Our pin world is small and maybe we should know who the good guys are and who are shady. So, I didn't do what I "gotta" do. Problem is you think most would stand by the hard word. Sure, I would have driven up there sooner if I didn't get the don't worry its yours reassurance.

Anyway the lesson learned is... ya gotta do what ya gotta do reputation be damned

Brian, its a joke at my expense but I do find it funny

Just curious about this... we exchanged emails after midnight Saturday and he gave me his number to call Sunday but didn't have it listed in the ad. How did you get his number to call him Sunday morning?

Thanks that explains a lot. He seemed like a nice guy and square shooter. When we talked I could tell he felt like an ass. Can't blame him if someone kept throwing money at him even though he told them sold. He told me sold to me but would keep a back up list hence I told him to let me pay now since he was familiar with PayPal. Bottom line even having a deposit or paid in full can get returned if you don't have the machine. Happened to me once lol recently. All things happen for a reason. Prolly would have crashed on the way back home. Ya never know.

I knew there was a reason you didn't sell me either of your bsd's! Lol!

Ouch, but honest. Does it work or are friendships lost easily in this circle?

Sounds like you don't have kids or are paying child support lol!

I agree its never a deal until its in the van. Either we are in this for a hobby and enjoy all including the friends we make or in it for money other people be damned.

Just good to know what the situation is here when buying a pin on cl so that's the good of it for everyone's future deals.

Don't be the first to buy. That puts you at a disadvantage. Come in later and ask if you still have it and what you sold it for. Then offer more money until you get it. Now everyone knows how it works and are on a level playing field around here.

Believe me even with him reassuring me I knew the risk not being able to come up on Sunday or Monday due to work hours. Anything can happen.

I know a seller if tempted enough long enough will eventually take more money in todays world. At least most. I was naive or wanted to believe it different this time and had no choice. Was willing to get him the money anyway he wanted it with Paypal being an option or even wire. Still wouldn't have made any difference because he could have returned a deposit or even paid in full. We had no written contract of course. Maybe there is a legal binding way to do a transaction over email but I doubt it.

Now we have the template to do work this style of pin purchase too!

Pete, I am being sarcastic... I think.

Hilarious! He looks exactly like I imagined him to look like. Now I don't feel so bad lol! Almost edited my first post done out of initial anger but it looks fitting for sure.

Offer more or not, hmm...

Isn't there a part two to this?