Wow, really? That would be awesome. The last update was in March so having another would be great considering how some game play features could be used more.

Besides Star Trek its been really quiet in general on the Stern code front.

As an ACDC pro owner myself that has played the heck out of it, the code feels pretty darn good to me. Any further improvements are appreciated but just gravy. I'd rather have Metallica or Star Trek updates any day. Then hopefully I won't find something brilliant looking like Metallica more boring than I think it should be when I go play it on location. In a perfect world it might be be nice if they open sourced it so you could make some improvements yourself and feed them back, but like that will happen.

I have not noticed any kind of combo or loop shot count on the lower playfield on AC/DC premium. Am I wrong? That seems like a great idea, based off of the difficulty in making several loops in a row. The only part of the game I truly think needs more/better code is the lower playfield. Many people tend to avoid the lower all together. That could change if there was a significant risk reward or combo type situation.

I want some Transformers code. Just to make the rocking playfield have different progressives depending on which level sensor gets hit. And change up the robot modes to be a little more diverse.

Ah, so Steve Ritchie is "someone?" Playfield inserts that do nothing are just fine? Steve himself talked about a multi ball that plays the top and bottom play fields at the same time. The cannon, probably the main toy in the game has 3 inserts that don't do anything.

Just so I understand, as long as the code is good, they can say whatever they want and make all the promises they want and never complete them?

ha, "I'll repeat", repeat all you want. The game isn't finished, not by Steve's standards, not by Lymans, not by the players.

Nobody is saying the game isn't great as it is. I think everyone is happy with the code, it's just not done, figure out the differance.

The layout by Steve Ritchie on acdc is boring and average. Its his most unimaginative layout ever. Pops in the middle, targets all over. Pure fan layout. Super horribly ugly artwork. Lower playfield isn't very fun. I am a huge Steve Ritchie nut. Love his work. But acdc layout is not great. It shoots smooth and polished, but there's not much exciting in the layout.

Everything that makes acdc good is done by Lyman. The only redeeming quality in the game is the code. Its all in the code. And the code is fantastic. Its quite possible that Lyman discarded a lot of Steve's plans as "not fun" and went his own way. And who can argue? The code is a masterpiece. So yes, it's nuts whining about acdc code updates. It feels totally disrespectful to the code team in this one that did such a good job with the code.

We pretty much completely agree. I do think it's harder than you think to just make a "fan" layout game, very small tweaks here and there can have a large impact. But you're right, it's a standard fan layout.

And you're right, the lower play field isn't very fun, but it can be. Code can take the mini to the next level.

Lyman, Steve, Gary, they don't sit here on Pinside and worry about what people are saying. AC/DC and it's sales numbers speak for themselves about how people appreciate the game. They don't take it personally when people talk about how they want all the features to work.

When Lyman himself is telling people it's not done, and different versions of code are showing up at pinball shows, and it's been 8 months since the last public release, can you really blame people for starting to wonder where the code update is?

All I want, is all the features to work and some improvements that the team has admitted the game needs implemented.

Dear Santa,

see above

for the cannon inserts. Just have it keep track of how many times you spell fire. That's what they should have been for anyway, so you know when that 3rd one is coming

Yes but the issue I have is that there is new ACDC code that they use in tournaments. its a real minor update, but why not give it to us?

From what I heard, the new code used at PAPA had some bugs.

Yes, AC/DC code is awesome - probably one of Stern's best rule/code sets since LOTR. That being said, there is still room for improvement, and I hope we do see new code released.....eventually.

Ouch. That probably hurts.

Did you guys see the post on Facebook yesterday? Hint hint?

acdc-xmas.jpg

I think there is a high probability that a good chunk of Lyman's time is being devoted to the new Stern platform. That's where I would expect them to maximize their bang per Lyman buck. Everyone keeps saying that he's working feverishly to debug the hammer issue on METLE but he's dealt with similar mechanisms dozens of times before. If it were a simple patch it would have shipped by now.

MET update coming reasonably soon? Probably. AC/DC on the other hand strikes me as unlikely.

I love that song.

If new AC/DC code is released before Metallica, Pinside will hit DEFCON 1.

That is very funny.
And sadly, true.

It's an Italian bottom. Although technically Steve is Italian, he didn't invent the Italian bottom.

That's ridiculous. Next time you see Lyman, ask him who came up with the idea for the jukebox. It's a kinda important part of the rules. Steve's idea. HTH

ACDC is boring layout? blah can't disagree more. I love it. Fast, dangerous targets, risk/reward (bell), kick a$$ music, nothing more satisfying than linking a bunch of ramp shots together..its the only time I don't get heckled
Next to LOTR its my favorite Stern ever. I really hope they release an update thats just icing on the cake.

Wow... I guess that crow was hard to swallow

I tried to "thumbs down" my own post, but it wouldn't let me
If a software update in fact ships with the Luci version, I will gladly eat that crow and have a second helping for good measure.

Which along with the music makes it fun and a blast to play, what more do you want?

I found the updated versions suprising as well.

On the software.. I'm happy with what they have. Of course there could always be more.. the only thing that really stands out looking at the game is the horn inserts and the cannon modes IMHO. A upper/lower multiball would be fun.. but would it be more than a bash mode? Dunno. That said... Powerball mania is fun and it could be a lot like that!

Both left and right flipper switches are 2 stage, so you can hold balls on the main PF and still use the flippers on the lower if you are skilled at using staged flippers. I know Bowen always complains about not having mastered that skill.

Something I would put on a wishlist is having a mode where you are required to lock balls at the bell, juke and cannon. Kind of like how you have to lock balls in 3 places in T2 or on TSPP Alien Invasion.

New shoes !

I'm confused

New code is good

It's not here however

Hopefully it will be someday though

Luci was a surprise but does it ship with Jedi code?

Hope so but Im not betting money

Is it crow is it's something I want to happen lol?

To those having issues with the Devil Horns, they do give you small points right now, and the horns insert on the bell lights for a larger jackpot when you have three multi-ball modes running at the same time. So technically the horns indeed do something right now. Perhaps they can make them a bigger part of the game though, either in the form of a special mode, or an added Jackpot on the cannon (like the Combo, Loops, and Target jackpots)?

This is actually a great idea and would mix up the flow of the game quite a bit. Someone else previously mentioned a boring playfield layout. I personally don't think it's boring, per-se, but when you are going through the songs to reach Encore, the game can get repetitive. You are essentially lighting the same five shots over and over again to progress through your songs, and having a multi-ball mode that requires locking would definitely help to mix things up.

I feel the same way. LOTR is my fav stern, and Ac/dc is my second. But both games have boring cookie cutter fan layouts. if it wasn't for the rulesets, both games would blow ass.

Its not ridiculous. And its obvious who came up with what:
- If there's an insert or physical device for it, Steve came up with it
- if there's not, likely Lyman came up with it.

Rather then implementing some insert mode, we got VIP pass. Definitely a Lyman invention. Fits his style perfectly. And the way VIP pass is integrated enhances the fun factor by a large margin. In fact, I'd consider it the turning point in the game.

The music sucks. I'm not an acdc fan. I replaced the entire sound track.

But a topic of "ok stern, where's our acdc update" doesn't quite speak this sentiment. Its uncalled for, and frankly there are better things to be complaining about. The acdc code is not a "problem". The topic title makes it sound like it is. As it stands, it would be nice if acdc got updated. But no one is entitled or owed an update for this well coded game.

You called out his leak about new editions of the game as fantasy. We all know you weren't questioning the 'simultaneous release' point of of his post with your Wayne's World gif

I want to see a Tranformers update more than anything. AC/DC is fine as is right now.

Fark acdc, that plank has had enough updtaes.
Fix X-men!!

Xmen, pfffffft that game is great, now that I don't own it.

I would love to see more use of the magnet. It is a very underwhelming feature as it stands now.

I have a blast with xformers as is. Yes the right pf is useless, but I just only use it to progress towards the next mode.

I'd like to see the bell be more involved and to have the lower PF going with the upper PF on some modes.

Agreed. Transformers does not need an update.

Wow that would be awesome. Add that and some different type of cannon shots and I'd be in pinball heaven.

So AC/DC are entering studios in may, what do you think.
Is the final update going to be released when the new Album hit the stores, the tour starts or soon ?

That would be an awesome mode. Plus you could have it, that when you lock the 3rd ball in, you play the mini playfield to determine what your jackpots are worth. Maybe have it so the mini increases it 1 million per hit. Light the grid fully at first. If you make all 5 shots, then each shot only lights one at a time, adding a million to your jackpot each time. So everytime you do that multiball, you could have 1 million jackpots one game, or 20 million on another, depending on how well you did on the mini.

Great ideas. I hope we get another update for ACDC. Its been nearly a year since we received an update...

I would also say a good way to start this multiball, would be after you completed all 3 multiballs. Similar to destroy the ring on LOTR, after you start all 3 multiballs. Then you lock it in the bell to start the lock sequence. Shoot the jukebox for the next, and cannon ramp for the 3rd piece. Play your jackpot mini, fire the cannon (hit your target to collect your first jackpot) and start the multiball.

Maybe it's because I don't own an AC/DC but I don't see the need for updated code... especially after seeing several playoffs in PAPA on video with AC/DC.... didn't seem like the game was broken at all... it seemed like a fun game. Maybe fun enough to try and find room for a Luci somewhere in my ever shrinking basement.

They also have used Metallica in several broadcasts for PAPA... and it seems like the game works just fine.

AC/DC does not need a update but it has gotten to the point that every one with a sam board feels they are owed a update every six months

The game does work just fine.
But more is better

The code in the PAPA playoff videos has NOT been released to the public.

Maybe we will be able to enter a custom message on it yet someday