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Oh why did I switch from EM 2002 Stern Playboy


By Anthonyb

3 years ago



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    #1 3 years ago

    I have always owned EM pinballs, they are easy to work on and pretty simple. Well I was sick of playing the same EM game and only have room for one pin so I sold it because I had found a 2002 Stern Playboy for a what I thought was a steal. Background on the Pin. Homeowner bought it in 2004 and kept in his game room. The pin is in IMMACULATE condition cosmetically and for the most part plays great aside from one glitch I have encountered. I had some friends over played the game for around 4 hours last night flawlessly, after they leave my brother and I continued to play. Mid game the system just reboots, goes to the start page, states the location all the moving parts cycle as If I had just turned the on switch on, did it about three times and then stopped for another three hours of playing. This morning I woke up plug in and instantly did it two, three more times. Plugged it in to a surge protector that was empty of anything else thinking maybe it would stabalize the power. I had read since I live in a huge apartment complex a lot of people on the power could cause a drop in voltage. I did not have a problem for a few hours after that. Does this sound like a drop in voltage? I am hoping its not a serious issue, I can fix any EM in the world, but do not know where to start on this. Like I said machine is IMMACULATE cosmetically and works flawlessly aside from the two incidents I have had with the reset. I paid $1,500 and dont want to have to dump more into it!

    #2 3 years ago

    Sounds like a drop in voltage. Also I think any EM is better than stern playboy. Does sound like you got a great price on it though.

    #3 3 years ago

    IIRC, you can just adjust the 5V on them. its the little blue epoxied pot. Get a meter and a small screwdriver and adjust it a bit higher

    #5 3 years ago

    I had a bad RAM chip on a Whitestar board on my Nascar that caused re-boots and boot problems if you find the 5v not to be the problem

    #6 3 years ago

    Wow I love how there is instant results on Pin Forums, I just bought a Ford Bronco and I will post something on ford forum and I will already have the issue resolved before I even get a reply, I have no Idea where to find the 5V Can I possibly post some pics later and you point me in the correct direction? Also is Stern a bad pinball company? This playboy I think is one of the best games I have ever played with the fold out centerfold and multi ball? Thanks for all of your help and I like to think I got a great deal, 1500 with original manual not one spot on the playfield has ball wear no scratches or scuffs any where on the cabinet, the machine is literally flawless. Guy was asking 3000 and needed money by Friday I told him to call me if it came down to letting it go cheaper he did I offered 1500 cash and carry! Also I sold the EM I had to a kid who works for me for the price of the uhaul to move the the new pinball around $50 absolutely made his day, I remember 12 years ago when I was around 14 I found a Bally Four Queens in the woods behind my friends barn wrapped in a blue tarp. I said I want that he said, its been sitting there for 10 years wrapped in a tarp it will never work. I gave him $20 cash paid my buddy $10 cash to help me move it to my house. Put a new plug on it and new fuses, cranked right up was playing it for about 15 hours straight that day. The addiction started, I have since bought many EM Pins for around 50-$100 in rough shape and fix them play them and enjoy them, I do not think I could ever not have a pin anymore. Thanks GUYS!

    #7 3 years ago

    After looking at these hieroglyphs I think I will have to pay someone to work on it, hope its not super super expensive. Anyone know of any repairmen around Raleigh NC

    #8 3 years ago

    You played pinball for 15 hours in one day? That's got to be a record

    #9 3 years ago

    I played pinball last night from 8pm to 4am, woke up at 7:30 am and played until 10am today. Its a new machine I am intrigued right now. My girlfriend walked out on me last night and went to her place hahahahah. " Im not going to just lay in your bed while you are out there playing with your toy!" She better never give me a choice, because its a lonely drive home. By the way my girlfriend modeled for Maxim for three years and other various magazines, that should let you know my love for pins

    #10 3 years ago

    Relax dude you are just having what is known as an EM/SS freakout. This is common for people who cross the sacred line from one type of game to another. I've seen DMD bros freak out because their new EM game won't stop turning its score motor.

    This is perfectly normal and we will get you through this. It's just the same thing - the pinball machine is acting up and it needs repair. Just like your EM game. It could be as simple as something like your line voltage being low due to the AC being on for the first time.

    Also we need to see some pictures of your girlfriend.

    #11 3 years ago

    Kaneda?

    #12 3 years ago
    Quoted from Anthonyb:

    By the way my girlfriend modeled for Maxim for three years and other various magazines

    Lives in Canada, met her at Niagara Falls?

    #13 3 years ago
    Quoted from Anthonyb:

    I played pinball last night from 8pm to 4am, woke up at 7:30 am and played until 10am today. Its a new machine I am intrigued right now. My girlfriend walked out on me last night and went to her place hahahahah. " Im not going to just lay in your bed while you are out there playing with your toy!" She better never give me a choice, because its a lonely drive home. By the way my girlfriend modeled for Maxim for three years and other various magazines, that should let you know my love for pins

    Just wait till you play a stern game that's actually good you're never going to sleep again.

    #14 3 years ago

    Do you know how to use a multi-meter? Can you read schematics?

    It sounds harder than it is. We can help. Take some pictures of your boards and post them.

    #15 3 years ago

    Shhhhh don't tell anyone, seriously though I might need a play by play on how to adjust fix this thing, I'm scratching my arms ready to get off work and play this thing, and think I would be depressed if I couldn't play it for a week until a tech fixed it. I wouldn't even know where to find a tech.

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    #16 3 years ago

    Lives in North Carolina, met her 10 years ago in high school. I'm from Buffalo originally will be in Niagra Falls in a month at the casinos

    #17 3 years ago
    Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:

    Do you know how to use a multi-meter? Can you read schematics?
    It sounds harder than it is. We can help. Take some pictures of your boards and post them.

    Can not really read schematics, will shoot some pics, I assume the boards are in the head? The only problem is I do not have the key for the head, I have the key for the front door but it does not appear to work for the head lock. The lock i held in by 4 torx bits I assume if I drop them I could get the lock out with out damaging anything. I will post some pics of the Pin tonight, just so you can see how amazing and un used this thing looks. Thanks again.

    #18 3 years ago

    the key for the head should be hanging on the inside of the coin door

    #19 3 years ago

    I would also be depressed if I couldn't play for a week, and indeed by appearance there has been amazingly little use and wear!

    Wait, what are we talking about?

    #20 3 years ago

    2 things:

    1. Your GF is not ugly
    2. Charge your phone.

    #21 3 years ago

    Hahahahahaha Thanks guys, and yeah so I guess first thing is learn how to use the multimeter I have, check what you guys are saying to check. If it is caused by the power of my apartment/condo flucuating, is there anything I can buy to kind of stabalize it. If it only happens once every three four hours should I even be concerned?

    #22 3 years ago

    Forget Pinball and play with her!

    #23 3 years ago

    Im trying to be able to play with both guys! I told you, that you would understand my love for pins if you seen her.

    #24 3 years ago

    On your driver board you should find your adjustment pot R116. Near it you'll find R114, just below your +5v LED.
    Measure the voltage on the bottom leg of R114. If it's less than 4.85v try and raise it using the adjustment pot R116.

    Let us know what you find.

    #25 3 years ago

    Playing right now, plugged in first game it reset in first two games. I had turned ac onmid first game to see, let sit for five turned ac off have since played 5 games no issues. Just turned ac back on and seems to be working fine. No idea what any of that means will send pics maybe you could help me out b

    #26 3 years ago

    Next step is get that backbox open and post a picture of the boards. Post a picture of your multi meter.

    Look in your manual, the schematics for the driver board should be labeled. On that schematic, find R116. Then find it and R114 on your board. Take a picture of them. Then we'll figure out how to set your meter and test the +5v.

    #27 3 years ago

    I don't have a manual, grabbing torx bits to remove lock that has back glass locked. Recorded a video. It seems like a short, the field stays lit but scoreboard in head just keeps trying to restart the moving parts in playfield will start to cycle stop cycle stop and eventually work. The backglass lightbulb was out all night yesterday then today on now it's off and seems to be playing better. I doubt any of this matters but figure I toss it out.

    #28 3 years ago
    Quoted from Anthonyb:

    I don't have a manual

    In post #6 you said, "1500 with original manual..."

    What's the deal?

    Did you check inside the coin door for the backbox key?

    #29 3 years ago

    It wasn't a manual turned out to be a folder of nude pics to go on places

    #30 3 years ago

    Checked coin box for backbox key and no avail trying to remove the lock right now and not one of my torx bits will fit and I have a full set. And now it's trying to reset every ten seconds

    #31 3 years ago

    Drill the lock out and replace it. Pretty easy with a new bit.

    #32 3 years ago

    Believe I found problem while inspecting the head box after removing backglass while the machine went on it's worse restarting incident I noticed two independent wires which I believe to be from the power box crunched in between the headbox and cabinet, I for the life of me when I reassembled get the head box to close all the way when I got it home last night. I folded the headbox forward to take the tension off the two wires and it reset properly and got out of the episode it was in, I have played 10 fifteen games and it went from couldn't play for 30 seconds before I did it to now an hour and a half of testing and turning the game off and on appears to work fine. Now another problem is diagnostic upon start up says possible bad switch on 29 and 30 triangles ? I'm going to enjoy the game for the night. Boards look flawless with no burned dust or
    Anything else. Thanks guys will keep posted

    #33 3 years ago

    Yeah and as I say that it goes on another episode

    #34 3 years ago

    Inspected ribbons that may have had stress on them when transport and folding headbox down. Both ribbon on the power driver board was obviously pulled and not on fully on I was able to push down a quarter inch one left says GICOM under the majority of prongs and one on right says ground ground ground ground 5+ 5+ 5+ 5+ 5+ then 12+ a few times now episode has stopped, these are way harder than an em

    #35 3 years ago

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    #36 3 years ago

    With the game on, test the bottom leg of R114 for DC voltage. If it's less than 4.85, turn it up using R116. I've circled R114 and R116 in the attached photo.

    Watch this video to explain how to use your multi-meter.

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    #37 3 years ago

    the key should be hanging on the inside of coin door on a small metal hook. not in coin box

    #38 3 years ago

    Will do tomorrow my gf is going to kill me for real if I don't in my bedroom any minute. Game is playing great right now, I will keep you informed also my multimeter is cheapo. I actually own a pawn shop and will look into seeing if I have one around.

    #39 3 years ago
    Quoted from Mitch:

    the key should be hanging on the inside of coin door on a small metal hook. not in coin box

    I checked thoroughly I found the right key bit removed the lock clean. And was able to access boards.

    #40 3 years ago

    Well I think I have some great news, I think machine is fixed. Loose ribbon cables to the power board caused low voltage. I just broke the previous owners high Score and shot 120 million. Amazing game, gf still kind of hates me

    #41 3 years ago
    Quoted from Anthonyb:

    Well I think I have some great news, I think machine is fixed. Loose ribbon cables to the power board caused low voltage. I just broke the previous owners high Score and shot 120 million. Amazing game, gf still kind of hates me

    Just wait until you have a whole house full of games. Then she's really gonna hate you. Nice work on the fix! Always feels good to fix a game.

    #42 3 years ago
    Quoted from Anthonyb:

    I will keep you informed also my multimeter is cheapo.

    Quoted from Anthonyb:

    these are way harder than an em

    Glad you got it fixed. You're going to need a bit more knowledge if you are going to service it yourself in the future. It doesn't matter that you have a cheapo multimeter, as long as you learn how to use it - the types of measurements for most basic work on these games usually doesn't require more sophisticated test gear. A modern solid state game is based around a computer brain, and basic electronic skills should be learned before you get under the hood. So yeah, a little more complicated than an EM if you have no practical electronics knowledge.

    Beyond that, if you should have a problem with your game, just post your questions here before you go poking around inside - because it is real easy to turn a small problem into a huge (and sometimes expensive) one if you wing it.

    #43 3 years ago

    If your gf isn't into pinball it's time for her to move on. To Austin. Send contact info ASAP.

    #44 3 years ago

    HAhahaha honestly I could use a break, too many of them are beating on my door right now. I do not know if any of you guys invest in silver or gold. I own a coin and jewelry store (similar to a pawn shop) here in Raleigh NC we sell bullion to investers. Silver has been skyrocketing. If you do I owe you guys some favors so I will give you the hookup. Will find out for sure sure if machine is perfect but I left it on all night played it until 1 am and woke up at 7 am and played it until 10 am and played great not one reset. Wish me luck!

    #45 3 years ago
    Quoted from Anthonyb:

    I played pinball last night from 8pm to 4am, woke up at 7:30 am and played until 10am today. Its a new machine I am intrigued right now. My girlfriend walked out on me last night and went to her place hahahahah. " Im not going to just lay in your bed while you are out there playing with your toy!" She better never give me a choice, because its a lonely drive home. By the way my girlfriend modeled for Maxim for three years and other various magazines, that should let you know my love for pins

    Pinball machines always cost less.

    #46 3 years ago

    How are the batteries looking on it? If you don't know when they were replaced, I'd replace them now.

    #47 3 years ago

    The batteries appear fine I did examine will change tonight just to be safe. Game has been playing great since four have some friends over playing right now. Hellz Yeahhhhhhhhh

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