Makes me wonder who beat him up early in life.
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I gotta admit I was trolling him a little bit at that point, especially with my offer, but the guy definitely has a hair trigger
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Quoted from Procrastinator:Warning: language
I gotta admit I was trolling him a little bit at that point, especially with my offer, but the guy definitely has a hair trigger
Can't get them to post chronological so read from bottom to top
And they say the art of civil debate is dead.
I'm guessing his new ebay name is game_gallery, judging by some matching photos and games from his site and ebay
Wished I saved the emails I had with him a few years ago. Really a fun experience because it was so odd. Something's wrong with him.
That recording is funny! I've worked for guys that go off like that. You wonder how they are able to keep customers... but they do!
I've never dealt with him yet, and have no interest in purposely provoking him for entertainment. Sorry...That just kind of seems like the same type of thing?
Sad to admit.......I've had Ebay listings and CList ads, with questions, Especially Ebay. that I would have loved to go off like that. But I think most of us have been there.
I am glad for this thread and the heads up though! It's good to have an Idea of who is who and what to expect!
I'm in Dallas Ga. I can't seem to get my location set. haha And I'm sure I've seen the Craigslist ads.
Got a call from this Tom guy tonight - found this thread from a google search of his phone number.
He was "interested" in a pin I am selling, and not 10 seconds into the conversation starting a threat to sue me because I was "false advertising because I don't accept PayPal payment"...
Told him I am an attorney and good luck on that. He slightly adjusted his attitude about the lawsuit, saying he's "been through the court system many times", but continued hurling insults when I told him "if you don't like it, don't buy it".
I actually found it quite comical, as I don't let much get under my skin, and started laughing during the end of conversation which is when he hung up. He must get his thrills from trying to make other people feel small.
Guy is a looney toon to put it nicely.
I called him about that “new” game out if box. I was really disappointed that he did didn’t go off on me. He must have just hit the pipe when I called.
Quoted from Procrastinator:Warning: language
I gotta admit I was trolling him a little bit at that point, especially with my offer, but the guy definitely has a hair trigger
Can't get them to post chronological so read from bottom to top
cockgobbling fuckface? I've never heard that one before. I'll have to find a way to use that sometime.
That recording was too funny. But realistically, he obviously has mental issues, coupled with a superiority complex, lack of understanding and any hint of normalcy, and an overall negative attitude. My take on this guy: he doesn't have an exorbitant amount of intelligence, but somehow became mildly successful.
I am all about humor and certainly understand poking a bear once in a while for amusement, but why anybody does actual business with this guy is beyond me. When I was in my late teens or early 20s, this is the type of guy I would've probably punched in the face just to do it. He is all talk, and that usually shuts people like him right up.
I think Metallica wrote the song King Nothing about this guy.
Oh come on guys, Tom is just misunderstood , he needs counseling maybe rehab, what happened to helping a fellow human being. Blah
Quoted from pinbum:Oh come on guys, Tom is just misunderstood , he needs counseling maybe rehab, what happened to helping a fellow human being. Blah
Misunderstood? Is that a joke?
Someone who constantly and consistently speaks to and treats people the way he is does is just an asshole. Haven't you ever heard the phrase treat others how you want to be treated? That's what I'm doing here. And I certainly don't appreciate people that sit on a high horse and think they are better than everybody else. That in and of itself is annoying.
I am nice to anybody I deal with in this hobby, even a guy that I held a game for for over six months who eventually backed out of the deal. I can't imagine what Tom would've said to that guy.
Quoted from pinbum:Oh come on guys, Tom is just misunderstood , he needs counseling maybe rehab, what happened to helping a fellow human being. Blah
Uh...no. He is way beyond that. He does not recognize he has a problem. I'm still amazed when new members in my pin league say they just talked to him about a pin. His prices are outrageous and it is not worth paying more to be verbally abused and assaulted.
Anybody wanting an honest seller(s) in Ga. pm me. Dont waste your time with this waste of space.
Quoted from Colsond3:Misunderstood? Is that a joke?
Someone who constantly and consistently speaks to and treats people the way he is does is just an asshole. Haven't you ever heard the phrase treat others how you want to be treated? That's what I'm doing here. And I certainly don't appreciate people that sit on a high horse and think they are better than everybody else. That in and of itself is annoying.
I am nice to anybody I deal with in this hobby, even a guy that I held a game for for over six months who eventually backed out of the deal. I can't imagine what Tom would've said to that guy.
I took that as a joke....
I don't know the guy, never dealt with the guy. I have known people like that. Usually after a while they end up being ok, they just have their unusual way of dealing with people for whatever reason.
Also...."bad publicity, is better than no publicity." This person has received their own thread! Name and all! He's a Pinball celebrity!
I kind of want to meet him to learn some new language! Seems very creative!
Quoted from Colsond3:Haven't you ever heard the phrase treat others how you want to be treated?
Quoted from Colsond3:this is the type of guy I would've probably punched in the face just to do it. He is all talk, and that usually shuts people like him right up.
I'm confused.
Quoted from Dooskie:I'm confused.
I think he was joking guys.
Although he's not really wrong; you have to have a serious issue to be acting like that. Kinda feel bad for the guy... until you read some of those messages.. omg
Quoted from Dooskie:I'm confused.
Way to take two separate posts out of context. it was a joke, or a comment off the handle of sorts.
Not sure what's confusing though. For one, I said when I was younger. This guy obviously is not 21 or 22 years old, and I would never really hit somebody regardless. Secondly, if I acted the way he does and spoke to people the way he does, I would expect to get punched in the face at some point in my life.
To be honest with you, I could care less. And to be honest again, we all know there are good people in this hobby, and there are assholes. I've dealt with both types. I would never deal with this guy personally, and anybody that does it's their own fault if it turns out to be a bad experience.
I argue for a living, so I don't really feel like doing it in my hobby. If you know him and want to defend him, great. But to me, based on this thread and other things I've heard and read, he doesn't sound like one of the good guys in the hobby to me.
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:I think he was joking guys.
Although he's not really wrong; you have to have a serious issue to be acting like that. Kinda feel bad for the guy... until you read some of those messages.. omg
haha.....I worked for a guy that was the same way. He ended up one of my best and loyal friends, even years later. But when a customer pulled in especially with a complaint...We had to tell him" Just stay in the office we have this". He was awesome at what he did, probably one of the best, but did not have patience or any kind of filter(?). I have some funny stories him, horrible with customers but ended up a great friend. We just have a different speaking style with each other than normal.
The first couple of months working for him, scared the crap out of me. He has a hair trigger and didn't put up with any nonsense. I was just out of High School and had never been around anyone like that. After a while you just get use to it. Stuff flying across the shop, screaming and hollering, language, etc..... Today? I'd do anything for the guy! He's like a brother.
I'm not defending the guy I don't know him. just saying some people might be good at what they do, they just need someone else to deal with customers. Must be great at something to still be in business...I don't know! So, I don't feel sorry for him or people like him. They adjust to what and who they need. Usually.....not always. And dealing with the public can drive a man crazy after a while. The petty, nonsense that comes with it will make you go insane! Speaking from experience!
Added...Holly cow! Sry for the long post...Just got thinking and rambling! Lost Down memory lane I guess! haha Also, know from experience, These usually aren't the type of people you want to spend your time provoking to "I'm going to teach him a lesson". They, know how to play that game better..Provoke a bear and you will get bitten. Usually... not worth the time or effort to play games like "I'm going to call him just to see if I can get him to go off or annoy him then put it in a thread" As and example. Don't waste the time.
Quoted from Colsond3:Way to take two separate posts out of context. it was a joke, or a comment off the handle of sorts.
Not sure what's confusing though. For one, I said when I was younger. This guy obviously is not 21 or 22 years old, and I would never really hit somebody regardless. Secondly, if I acted the way he does and spoke to people the way he does, I would expect to get punched in the face at some point in my life.
To be honest with you, I could care less. And to be honest again, we all know there are good people in this hobby, and there are assholes. I've dealt with both types. I would never deal with this guy personally, and anybody that does it's their own fault if it turns out to be a bad experience.
I argue for a living, so I don't really feel like doing it in my hobby. If you know him and want to defend him, great. But to me, based on this thread and other things I've heard and read, he doesn't sound like one of the good guys in the hobby to me.
Good god, no. I'd NEVER want to deal with someone like that, and I wouldn't deal with someone like that. I was mainly just giving you a little bit of grief, nothing more. Sorry if it came across otherwise. Not my intent.
Quoted from Dooskie:Good god, no. I'd NEVER want to deal with someone like that, and I wouldn't deal with someone like that. I was mainly just giving you a little bit of grief, nothing more. Sorry if it came across otherwise. Not my intent.
No problem at all. I just try to be one of the good guys. Even taking my minty BSD and Frankenstein to a friends wedding reception today for him.
Going back in my emails, I realized this Tom guy is "surfsidearcades" on eBay
He was/is advertising pinball plastics as "as-is" condition with a one sentence description and poor picture (white/clear plastics on a white background). I needed a couple he had, so asked a simple question below;
"Interested in a couple of your pinball plastics. You note "as-is" condition. Are they broken? From the pictures they appear to be in good condition, and just wondering why the "as-is" note. Thanks"
Got this response;
surfsidearcades (454Turquoise Star)
"As-Is" because we don't allow returns and most of you pin heads are asswipes who think used means new.
All the pin PF plastics are good... I would not sell any cracked or chipped items... no one would buy them, so why bother?
You will only be able to purchase one every ten days... a security measure I put in place years ago due to the same earlier mentioned asswipe pinheads/trolls/trouble douche bags... it has been so long back (over 6 years) I can't even remember how, or where, in eBay's system that setting is.
If you want more than one per ten days... well, you can figure it out.... I'm not hard to track down... but I will not be able to change the security settings for you (or anyone else for that matter)..
Quoted from pinbum:Oh come on guys, Tom is just misunderstood , he needs counseling maybe rehab, what happened to helping a fellow human being. Blah
Bingo and Namaste
I think Tom Grizzard is misunderstood. Look at all the happy customers....
atlanta.craigslist.org link
Quoted from elcolonel:I think Tom Grizzard is misunderstood. Look at all the happy customers....
atlanta.craigslist.org link
They all paid full asking price and never questioned anything.
Quoted from Dbaum88:Omg, watch out Atlanta. The all time mean, nasty, treacherous, racist and just plain horrible pinball seller, Tom Grizzard, is back with ads on CL. He slunk off to Jacksonville but is back....people are even listing anti-TG ads on CL, rightly calling him a scammer and much more. Now he's leaving his name off the ads.
Of course, his ads are way overpriced as usual but that's nothing....everyone in this town has horror story about Atlanta Arcades owner. Me? He hit me with religious slurs out of the blue when I offered him a few hundred dollars less on a pin. "Can you lower the price a little?" "You're a Jewbag, don't call me again." Called me Jewbag six time in 25 sec. conversation.
Anyone care to share their story? I've heard plenty. Let's protect this hobby we all love and the unsuspecting public.
Wow, I really wish I had discovered this last year when you posted this. It was about the same time when I bought a Killer Instinct from him.
He posted some stock image on ebay and sold me something else he had in his storage area. When I called him out on his bullshit (in a very polite manner) he quickly got defensive and combative and at one point threatening to fly to my state and file a claim against me in court if I were to dispute the paypal transaction... and I never even said anything about filing a pp dispute claim.
He constantly told me its mine since I repaired it. (I'm not trying to give it back!) Just want him to admit he listed one item and sold me another.He tried making me feel dumb and insulted me along with trying to belittle me by telling me about how much he sales and all the money he rakes in. To a guy who has more than enough wealth to buy his misrepresented games, part them out and not even bat an eye lash, I found this amusing.
He is a complete prick and a scamming douche. It doesn't matter how polite or civil you talk to this guy, you are the enemy upon purchase.
I hope a karma has caught up with this guy and he is walking the streets of Atlanta and sleeping in its trash cans.
Game came DOA, swapped the hard drive and got it working. I found the bezel for the control panel hanging by a screw inside the panel. Left side images are his ebay pics, rightside is actual cab.
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Quoted from GrimDog:I don’t know how he ever makes money. His ads never leave Atlanta Craigslist
His games all eventually sell.
Capitalism should take care of this. If people keep buying from him, he stays in business. If he sucks, people will quit buying and he goes out of business.
Quoted from WolfManCat:Wow, I really wish I had discovered this last year when you posted this. It was about the same time when I bought a Killer Instinct from him.
He posted some stock image on ebay and sold me something else he had in his storage area. When I called him out on his bullshit (in a very polite manner) he quickly got defensive and combative and at one point threatening to fly to my state and file a claim against me in court if I were to dispute the paypal transaction... and I never even said anything about filing a pp dispute claim.
He constantly told me its mine since I repaired it. (I'm not trying to give it back!) Just want him to admit he listed one item and sold me another.He tried making me feel dumb and insulted me along with trying to belittle me by telling me about how much he sales and all the money he rakes in. To a guy who has more than enough wealth to buy his misrepresented games, part them out and not even bat an eye lash, I found this amusing.
He is a complete prick and a scamming douche. It doesn't matter how polite or civil you talk to this guy, you are the enemy upon purchase.
I hope a karma has caught up with this guy and he is walking the streets of Atlanta and sleeping in its trash cans.
Game came DOA, swapped the hard drive and got it working. I found the bezel for the control panel hanging by a screw inside the panel. Left side images are his ebay pics, rightside is actual cab.
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The guy sent you a machine that was other than what was pictured and you made no claim with Ebay/Paypal? Trying to make a shady character admit his deception? Did you offer milk and cookies too? Should should have grown a spine and made a claim. Might have gotten a partial refund and kept the game. All you did was allow him to keep on screwing people.
Quoted from vdojaq:The guy sent you a machine that was other than what was pictured and you made no claim with Ebay/Paypal? Trying to make a shady character admit his deception? Did you offer milk and cookies too? Should should have grown a spine and made a claim. Might have gotten a partial refund and kept the game. All you did was allow him to keep on screwing people.
Thanks for the kind words.
Quoted from CaptNRetro:HE'S BAAAAAAACK - Facebook marketplace out of St. Simon's Island Ga....go have some fun!
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Great idea! Haven’t messed with that clown in awhile.
I asked Tom today for a few more pics of a Diner.
He replied with all sorts of nasty stuff.
What a total jackhole!
Very weird! He must get triggered very easy or something?
Super rude and arrogant.
https://www.facebook.com/tom.grizzard.3
He was just as described in this thread.
I would say never deal with this guy.....ever!
(Hi Tom!)
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