Finally installed ChadNC's rails today!
I predict it's only a matter of time before the hardware gets the plating/powdercoat treatment! Either you love it more than lamp or you don't!
Quoted from darkryder:
I should have my NIB Tron Pro from the last run of 200 next week. Getting seriously pumped! Which leg protectors, mirror balls and Cliffy + ramp protectors are "must have" items before I launch the first ball? I've been out of the mod scene for a while and haven't purchased a new pin in a few years. I already know this game is going to get heavily pimped/modded
At a minimum mylar at the shooter lane with cliffy, and mantis or cliffy at the scoop. I have cliffies on the ramps but has anyone broken a ramp on this game? I have been tempted to remove them.
p.s. wtf centerflank
Post edited by Erik : wtf
I'm not sure about precut strips. I buy the half moon ones for the slings and trim as needed to fit elsewhere. Also I add the little 1x1 mylar squares at the ball drops on all my pins. Not sure if necessary but I can't see any drawback
Also congrats and you will love it! Coolest game ever! With all the nifty mods it's the gift that keeps on giving. I think you'll find Tron fills all your pinball needs. I don't even own a single lamp or piece of botanical headwear anymore.
That seems sort of exploity to me. I wonder if that will be changed in the next update.
Post edited by Erik : Yes exploity is a word, look it up. Keep looking, it's somewhere.
It has been said a few times that Lyman would continue to work on it and release updates until it reached 2.0. I don't know if that's true (or even necessary) but I've read it enough times that I have to think there's something to it
Nice pic, definitely get that guy into it! With curious facial hair and beer in hand he's already halfway into the pinball madness anyways.
Those speaker discs are fantastic. LCMB kicks my butt too. I complete Gem way more even tho it gets a bad rap. Maybe I'm not a combo guy? I probably slow the play down more than most folks which doesn't help my combo skills
Quoted from centerflank:
No, they power off with everything when you flip the main power switch, I have a 4-1 splitter that plugs directly into the "always powered on" port of the pig, and it also has 4 or 5 other ports that you can plug mods into that daisy chains to wires with alligator clips you can move around easily....
I never got the PIG™, but I had a hot mess of splitter cables. I eliminated them with this and it works well.
My vajazzler looks very different so I'm guessing this is this something to do with your boat/swing contraption? Looks sort of like a wrongful death claim waiting to happen. I like it! From what I can see that's some clean bending and welding
Hmm yeah I got the blue acrylic one too. Actually didn't realize there was a film included with the xpin.
So slightly OT .. what would happen if you put a blue filter over a red DMD? Purple? Blueish red?
Quoted from QuarterGrabber:
Yes I connected the plug on the left. Then there is a brown wire plug you need to plug it into as well near the back of the playfield. After that it still didn't work so I took the black wire it came with and plugged it into the shaker board and then into the power supply and whamo, it worked. Can anyone that has a shaker in theirs tell me if I did it wrong?? My shaker is a Stern rev B.
I can't remember at all how mine was done but I think if yours is working you did it right!
I still don't have a big problem with Gem, it's that dadgum LCMB. I feel like I must be missing something because it's rarely mentioned. Tips for the challenged?!?
Btw that broken plastic stinks. I just went through this with a safecracker topper that arrived in many pieces At least yours is still made!
Definitely worth trying! X-Men is one software update from being on my short list!
Do you have an arcade in the area or a league? You may get the opportunity to play them at someone's house just from striking up a conversation. If I met someone at our local arcade that wanted to try some of my games I'd invite him over. Sharing the games is part of the fun for most of us (it helps if you bring beer too)
You guys see Vid's guide to led backlit standup targets? If that works with the Pro do it and post pics!!
I must have read too many of your posts because I looked at your Novus pictures for quite some time expecting to find some sort of photoshop trickery or clever image/words written in Novus!
I put the blue ones on mine. Looks ok but I just have the yellow bats, which I don't really like. One day I will swap the bats to a different color, but I have only been deliberating colors for a year so I need a bit more time to decide
I got the bulbs in from Comet. My goal was to test them in the slings and in the Devo hats and if I like them I will order more to finish it out. My experience with LEDs in GI has been they don't tend to spread light around the PF, leading to dark areas or necessitating additional spotlights. Adding more spotlights is unacceptable, so the GI has to cast a wide, bright light otherwise I will stick with incandescents.
So here's the ones I got: 4+4 SMD for the pops and 4+1 SMD for the GI. These are listed as "natural white" and the color seems like any other standard white LED to me.
Before pic. All incandescent here except for the spotlights.
This shows only the right sling with LEDs, and a nut driver in the middle to compare how the light was cast from each side. Highly scientific!
I put one in the Space Paranoids plastic, instantly drawing attention to my dusty pf.
Three 4+4s in the pops. Turned out they already had LEDs in them but they were the concave single LED type (and too dim for me).
So long story long, I'm not really an LED guy, but I'm pretty happy with them at the moment. I'm going to play them for a while before committing to swapping all the GI. You wouldn't want these anywhere you could see the bulb from the player's POV. I also found the 4+1s are brighter than the 4+4s.
I've never had a ball hangup like that but it may be because my house slopes slightly in the opposite direction
That stinks. Is it scraping on the plastic? I noticed with the plastic protectors it kind of drags a little
Appreciate you offering but I'm just gonna slum it with the factory hinges. I'm sure there will be plenty of interest tho, they are pretty sweet looking
They're cut out. ChadNC made them once, not sure if he had plans to again but you could check with him
unscrew those two sockets from the brackets and place them on the pf material (or something nonconductive) to test. I think you've created a weak path to ground for one of your rows or columns
lol actually the sidecar is my drink of choice. could you mix two ingredients and I could add the lemon after? Let's get this done!
I'm not sure if Brett Butler is the center fielder or the actress but either way I'm a huge fan!
Btw notice how dark that pic is? Think he/she owns a lamp?
I almost had one of those behind-the-drops hangups yesterday. You guys jinxed me
Also I'm regularly getting schooled by the Daft Punk pop bumper. Any sort of weak orbit shot or a Gem shot will touch the bumper, launching directly at the left outlane at lightspeed. Wiresnip mod?
Quoted from HOOKED:
What do you think of these - if you have not seen them yet.
Seems every owner has posted here so though as an owner I would share.
Lit chrome version (less chrome screw in my haste to post).
This is mounted on a pop body with my custom led pad under the mod.
Need some pics from player pov plz! Looks cool there tho
FYI I have the original arcade cab with the v1.0 screen mod and it is not square. It looks like something I would have created in wood shop class. I call it the rhombus. Still I like to tell myself there's a certain charm to it
You have to hit the switch over to the right of the arcade machine to start Flynn mode. Then you'll see the lights cycle through. You'll probably find it's not something you'll need to aim for as you'll complete it during the course of the game without even noticing it.
Happy New Year, lovefesters!
Any of you guys have one of those white x-pin DMDs? I have the blue one but have been thinking about swapping it out. Lemme know your thoughts!
Wish I was there too! Bout to get the coldest its been in 20 years or some such here
Mine's pretty fast. I don't know how to quantify but you couldn't hold the flipper up or it would put the ball in the vicinity of the outlane. I try to time a flip in a way that the ball hits the bottom right sling post and slows the momentum.
I will say tho there's some variance in pins. Our local arcade has a Tron and the Quorra shot is so much easier than mine that it's not even really a challenge. Mine seems barely snug enough for a ball to fit through. If the ball guides are different then I could see there being discrepancies in coil winds as well.
No harm in adding a resistor to that coil if it's too much, imo!
I used some stuff called 3m Scotchprint in my arcade cabinet. It's super easy to use. There's a few pics in my build album. Here's one
It does have a texture by design tho so I don't know if you could clear it to the point of it being completely smooth. I like the texture so it doesn't bother me. No fingerprints either!
I got the pinball life clear ones. Not sure if they're different than pinballcenter's. They look pretty good to me. I don't think I would put them on my other games but on Tron it works. Firmer than the factory black ones but I'm not a purist
Quoted from tomdotcom:
I thought those xpin ones had the grid sections. Exactly what I don't want..
Yeah I got the xpin and it's griddy. Can't you connect a Stern to a colordmd or a custom lcd like in Crash's thread now? If so that's the route I would go if I didn't have one already
Quoted from nicoga3000:
So I'm still on a quest to sell my X-Men, but while I wait...
I've been looking into mods for a Tron if I ever get lucky enough to snag one! Are a shaker and sub "must haves" for this game? I know there are boat loads of other mods out there, but just starting with the absolute basics.
Definitely a sub. After that I'd go with Eli's fiber optic ramps. I would skip all the other stuff til those two are done
Edit: btw your x-men is awesome looking. good luck with the sale
I've ran a no name 6.5" sub and a super cheap 10" sony and they were equally great. I don't think you need to dump much money into pin subs. I keep my pins pretty quiet which makes the bass almost non existent but powered subs save the day! My favorite is when you start LCMB and the jumping bike makes the deep WHOOOOM sound that makes the floor vibrate. Also that usually signals I will be draining in the next 15 seconds
Quoted from retired_user_101:
checked my tron last night. i had 1200 games on it. how's that compare to others?
Just checked and 195 but misleading because it had around 70 plays when I got it, then the update came out a day or two later. So probably 300 plays?
Nice, an even trade sounds fair although admittedly I don't follow prices. I'd be making you an offer for your X-men if I didn't think I'd get stabbed in my sleep!
Pros won't come with LEDs from the factory. Selecting them is really up to your personal preferences
Pinsider Hooked was selling modded lightcycle kits for a while. You might check if he still has some. I think someone documented somewhere how you can modify the ornaments yourself if you want to save money
I mylar the shooter lane and the ball drops. Also there's a long mylar strip in front of the scoop, but you might add another square at the end of it to extend it if you find the ball is shooting over the strip.
I also removed the black rubber nubs to the left and right of the recognizer and replaced with dead drop foam that goes to the end of the ball guide. It helps prevent the balls from getting nicked by the edge of the guide as they go into the disc
You may find the game stays cleaner if you get rid of the soft black rubbers. Then again you might not!
New balls will help, then just use Novus on the ramps and wax pf occasionally.
Edit: Also the Stern cabinet protectors are very popular http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=2711
No one knows. I think final run has been rumored for the last four runs!
Early ones had screened cabinets and different translites. I think new ones may have cars instead of light cycles also
Thanks they're just the white Cliffy posts but with enough retina-searing lumens they can appear translucent
Someone needs to invent an internally lit post, then with the clear sleeves we'd really have something!
Yes those are the caps!
Pinsider ChadNC made rails for a while. Hooked did the EL paper kits for them. You'll have to check with them. I think maybe the pinball refinery guys were selling rail kits too.
Btw some, if not most of your questions are discussed earlier in the lovefest thread so if you haven't already, mix a tall cold one, clear your calendar, and go through it from the beginning. Could save you time/money/problems/penicillin shots
So did they pick up your Tron today?
Hey DK you should make a little board that does what this ribbon cable resistor connector does. I need it!
Yes I could make one like oga83 shows but it would end up looking like ass and I don't like things that look like ass. Well, other than ass
nuthin. I was messing with Skins
Post edited by Erik: Pretty sure aforementioned resistor board would be a great addition tho
Congrats on the pickup!
You lop off the RCA plug from the end of that cable, disconnect the cabinet speaker, and connect the cabinet wires to the sub's cable.
Since you're not using high level inputs you should probably check impedance of that sub at the input jack.
Quoted from nicoga3000:
And not the tape to rails connection, but do you have a pic of the cord plugging into something in the machine? Like a power supply or something? I can get the EL tape wired, but I just don't know how to end the connection into the machine...That's my point of confusion at the moment.
If youre adding a bunch of mods you need this:
Then just get some 3-pin connectors and bathe in the glow!
Quoted from eyeguypec:
How are those clear rubbers holding up? Dirtwise? How do they compare in play to the whites? I changed out the disc pad from black to clear and its much cleaner but grabs the ball much more and makes it incredibly fast.........
I find they stay very clean. The drawback is they're much firmer than the stock black ones
Quoted from ignusfast:
I've had it in there for a bit now, and while it's crazy, it's not been destructive yet. The funniest thing it's done so far was one shot that went straight in, shot to the right, and stuck under the rubber in the disk area. I had to ask my wife with her tiny hands to reach in there and get it.
First time I lit Portal I clanked the scoop shot and tilted trying to save it. Match Event
Good idea! Carl's breathing regimen is proven, and if I understand correctly, its patent is pending.
You guys see those new side decals? I like them but I'm torn between those and some mirrors. Or nothing at all
Has anyone met Tronguy? And if so do you think he would be amicable to an apron autograph?
Also last I saw of Brettbutler he was getting trolled in some thread. Lovefest getting stale without the butler
Permit me an anecdote.
Longtime readers will recall I am the owner of a 2007 Toyota Tundra. One week ago I happened to pass a Toyota dealership and proudly parked in the front was the most minty Tundra I have ever seen. As you can imagine, I immediately stomped the parking brake, cut a hard right, and skidded into the dealership.
As the tire smoke faded I gazed upon this unblemished survivor. Springing from my well worn seat, I marveled at its clean lines, shiny tires, rich paint, and chrome baubles lovingly installed by its first owner. Oh, the agony he must have felt parting with this Adonis. And were these LED lights already installed? I knew I must have it, but at what price?
I stood on tiptoes peering through the driver's side window and admiring the beauty of the interior. Certainly no Tundra has seen this condition since the G.W.Bush administration. Nervously peeking at the window sticker I was amazed and relieved to find it cost no more than mine new, and I began hastily justifying the purchase.
"A minty Tundra! What are the odds?!? It is a once in a lifetime opportunity," I reasoned. "Surely I cannot pass this up."
It did not take me long to look through the features and determine it had everything I could want, and more. Yet there was something that did not seem right. Something disingenuous. Something, dare I say, capitalistic?
Again I looked at the window sticker, and everything appeared correct, save a typographical error. "2014 Toyota Tundra," it read. Surely not, and I rolled my eyes appropriately. Yet in that seemingly insignificant gesture I briefly caught a glimpse of an entire fleet of Tundras, deviously placed side by side, and in an equally perfect state.
Scampering to the adjacent vehicle I noticed it too bore a 2014 date. Panic began to set in. I ran to another, then another. Soon there were four, then five, then nineteen more with the same model year.
Confusion turned to outrage. "How could this be?" I puzzled. "Could they be remaking, nay reFAKING, Toyota Tundras?"
I thought of all the special times I had spent with my truck. Those times when I knew I was one of the few on earth who had the opportunity to own one. All the memories taken away and replaced by bitterness. It was the foul taste of safety recalls and 13 MPG.
My rage built, and then I saw, some six vehicles away, a salesperson wandering near some 4Runners. No doubt ready to peddle these false wares on an unsuspecting buyer. That would not be me.
Boldly striding over, I removed my left glove and used it to deliver a strong backhanded slap across the chops, as I cried, "Good day to you!"
The salesperson gasped, tears welling, and darted into a nearby Geo Storm. Starting it after only two tries, the miscreant sped away.
In hindsight I'm not convinced she was a salesperson or even works there, but I believe my point was made, as it is now.
Any Troniacs with 3d printers? I have found pretty much the perfect topper if one could be made using this model
Herg is coming for you! Expect the mods to be alerted to this abuse for your completely unjustified thread bump!
Crazy sheet going on here, Troniacs. Yesterday I was fantasizing about an all-new Tron game, then last night I had this amazing dream involving the lovely ladies of Tron. And then this morning I see this license plate.
Something is afoot at the Circle-K!
Post edited by Erik: did I get my movie reference wrong?
I think it's the coolest video game of its time. Looks awesome with the black lights, it has good audio, and the lightcycle mode is fantastic. Tank mode spanks me tho
It's tied three ways so you can't lose! Whichever you pick will be the ultimate winnar!!!
Just between us Troniacs, I'm hearing rumors that Tron LE Continued will be announced at Expo. I'm about to put mine on the market in anticipation! Here's a sneak peek of the translite, which will of course be lenticular
Post edited by Erik: Not really my thing, but apparently BrettB knows Borg and demanded more Jeff Bridges. Who am I to judge?
I want to get the pinbits devo hats upscaled to actual hat size and wear it while playing, possibly with some internal lighting instrumentation. Good idea? Or the best idea ever?
I think someone with cad and 3d printing skills could make a whole new bumper cap style that would be similar to the recognizers. Or at least one for the left bumper. I've often thought that bumper maybe was originally designed to be something recognizerish, with its two curiously tall posts
Well don't hold out on us!! I expect it involves you fully colorizing the game with smartdmd and providing us the code!
Quoted from ENDOFLINE:
in the theme of all things tron.... here's a updated pic of my two babies. both are currently working (knock on wood) and I just got a alt marquee for my tron.
rich @ thisoldgame made these marquees for my buddy's movie the video craze and the best part is this thing glows too
Very cool! You need to seek out one of those Tron cocktail tables next
Hah yeah that one was on CL for a while. Unfortunately I didnt really have a spot for it
I'm not sure about those clips. Looks like they're held on with a piece of foam double sided tape. So assuming you run your fiber optics under the lips of the ramps everywhere the clips attach they'd block the light coming through
Thats a lotta duct tape.
Also interesting about the spare pf being numbered out of 400. Makes me wonder if they ever made all 400 LEs.
Wonder if quarterGrabber's pf was numbered
I will always think of you as blue nuts guy!
Looking forward to pics of your fiber optics installed!
Nice! You got all the misfit toys! My daughter would eat that up. Is there a set or did you have to buy individually?
Mod opportunity!!! This bulb under the right ramp burns my eyeballs. It needs some sort of colored plastic over it. Or maybe something with a risque Gem pose?
Quoted from QuarterGrabber:
Why isn't that LED blue
I got the fancy LEDs from comet but have never installed them except in a few spots. I have a problem with that kind of thing. I might try a frosted bulb but still I think I would prefer a colored plastic!
Quoted from Frax:
This is really bordering on hypocritical. I don't mean to be real harsh about it, but you don't want an under ramp decal, you don't want LED, and you don't want colored incandescent but you DO want a colored plastic above the bulb which will do the same bloody thing as a colored incandescent.
Just take out the bulb, or put a resistor inline with it to drop the light output. Maybe try a 47. I don't know anything else you can do that would be "satisfactory". Maybe try putting some car window tint on the bulb!?
Yes you understand my many requirements perfectly! I hadn't considered a 47 and that's a good suggestion. But one day I may get motivated to install all the LEDs so then I'd be stuck again. Then again maybe some of the frosted ones are pretty dim.
A custom plastic would be ideal
Edit: Also probably goes without saying, but I don't like bulb condoms either, if they even make white ones.
Which mezelmod target splints work with the ZUSE targets? I understand there are two piece and one piece
All good advice except from that smartass QG
I wax the pf and novus the ramps every month or so. Not everyone waxes but I like the additional layer of protection and speed.
Definitely get the cliffies. One day the ramps may be impossible to find. I also mylar the shooter lane.
Rather than setting the game to 5 ball, set it to an extra ball at 25M or some value that is achievable but not easy.
Also if you have a powered subwoofer on hand you owe it to your boys to hook it up
Tron has mylar in the pops, mylar below the arcade cabinet, and there are aftermarket protectors for the scoop. You can add mylar anywhere you suspect may wear (shooter lane, ball drops, drain hole)
I don't know that Tron would wear like that particular PF anyways. That looks like something was not right with the manufacturing. Keep it clean and you should be fine