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Official TRON lovefest thread, I love it more than Lightning Kitty.


By centerflank

6 years ago



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“Is TRON super awesome or are you a hater?”

  • TRON is unreal, centerflank is supersmart. 402 votes
    71%
  • TRON blows, voters for this option have a small dingy :( 102 votes
    18%
  • Never played TRON, but if Centerflank likes it, it must be fun!!!! 60 votes
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#9301 65 days ago

I feel dumb and can’t find info... is Tron a mono or stereo game? From memory of it’s wiring, thinking it’s mono.

I’m on the quest of getting the best sound out of it as possible. I currently have a flipper fidelity kit installed and a Polk10” sub under the cab... and I’m underwhelmed. I know it can be much better. Not really looking for the pinwoofer solution at this moment either. I’m thinking more Danesi Designs

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#9302 58 days ago

Anybody every have their Hallmark light cycle go out completely? I verified 5V power is getting to it, and I soldered the wires inside to bypass the pushbutton and they are still soldered together. I took the light cycle out of the game and don't see any issues yet... Next step would be to completely split apart and disassemble the bike to look for any other issues but it might just be dead.

#9303 58 days ago
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:

Anybody every have their Hallmark light cycle go out completely? I verified 5V power is getting to it, and I soldered the wires inside to bypass the pushbutton and they are still soldered together. I took the light cycle out of the game and don't see any issues yet... Next step would be to completely split apart and disassemble the bike to look for any other issues but it might just be dead.

Yes...the LED in these cycles don't last forever unfortunately. I purchased a new one on Amazon for $25 back in August. Looks like it's still available, however the price is now $35 (for the 2011 yellow/orange). The 2010 blue Lightcycle is no longer available.

Disassembling the cycle and fiddling with it didn't seem worth it.

#9304 58 days ago
Quoted from Chosen_S:

I feel dumb and can’t find info... is Tron a mono or stereo game? From memory of it’s wiring, thinking it’s mono.
I’m on the quest of getting the best sound out of it as possible. I currently have a flipper fidelity kit installed and a Polk10” sub under the cab... and I’m underwhelmed. I know it can be much better. Not really looking for the pinwoofer solution at this moment either. I’m thinking more Danesi Designs

I believe all SAM games are mono (which includes TRON).

I just installed PinWoofer kits in my KISS and AC/DC and was blown away by the results. The PW amps are awesome. I installed them while reusing my upgraded backbox speakers on my AC/DC. I plan on integrating these amps with my existing Flipper Fidelity speakers on Metallica and TRON later this week.

I'm curious...did you install a PinWoofer Kit? If so, what didn't you like? If not, I highly recommend the product. I've fiddled with various audio upgrades and think it's best-of-breed (and sensibly priced when compared to other mods).

#9305 58 days ago
Quoted from snaroff:

Yes...the LED in these cycles don't last forever unfortunately. I purchased a new one on Amazon for $25 back in August. Looks like it's still available, however the price is now $35 (for the 2011 yellow/orange). The 2010 blue Lightcycle is no longer available.
Disassembling the cycle and fiddling with it didn't seem worth it.

There's 5 or 6 LEDs inside and I doubt they would all burn out at the same time, I'm just not sure what else is inside and if there's a chance some internal connection broke. Guess I'll be tearing it apart either way, and worst case replacing it.

#9306 58 days ago
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:

There's 5 or 6 LEDs inside and I doubt they would all burn out at the same time, I'm just not sure what else is inside and if there's a chance some internal connection broke. Guess I'll be tearing it apart either way, and worst case replacing it.

It's possible there was a small voltage spike at some point which fried them. They are pretty sensitive. I replaced mine with some comet LED's. Not super hard but did take some time.

#9307 58 days ago
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:

Anybody every have their Hallmark light cycle go out completely? I verified 5V power is getting to it, and I soldered the wires inside to bypass the pushbutton and they are still soldered together. I took the light cycle out of the game and don't see any issues yet... Next step would be to completely split apart and disassemble the bike to look for any other issues but it might just be dead.

Mine were dead when I bought the game. Thought that they out lived there life. So I to need to replace them. So if any one makes a plug and play set I’ll take one as well.

#9308 57 days ago
Quoted from Twilight1:

Mine were dead when I bought the game. Thought that they out lived there life. So I to need to replace them. So if any one makes a plug and play set I’ll take one as well.

If you feel adventurous... I started this thread years ago (but never went any farther yet; as my originals still work fine).
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tron-hallmark-light-cycle-tear-down-pictures-to-investigate-led-replacement
...direct link to pictures...
http://www.racepainter.com/pinball/Tron/LC_teardown/index.htm?0_L

#9309 57 days ago
Quoted from snaroff:

I believe all SAM games are mono (which includes TRON).
I just installed PinWoofer kits in my KISS and AC/DC and was blown away by the results. The PW amps are awesome. I installed them while reusing my upgraded backbox speakers on my AC/DC. I plan on integrating these amps with my existing Flipper Fidelity speakers on Metallica and TRON later this week.
I'm curious...did you install a PinWoofer Kit? If so, what didn't you like? If not, I highly recommend the product. I've fiddled with various audio upgrades and think it's best-of-breed (and sensibly priced when compared to other mods).

I like the pw amps just fine that I put in Radical , I think they’re good for back box speakers. But the sub in Tron really needs a padded box with a port hole and a 400watt amp... 100watts is silly and makes the woofer sound not so good when the volume level is turned up.

I think to be serious about boosting the bass in these higher end pins more extreme measures need to be taken as Scott Danesi showed us with TNA. (Maybe not just placing a lone sub under each game, maybe doing superior bass in the cab, then adding a sub)... it sounds like overkill, but with the one game I have done this with, the bass is outstanding

#9310 57 days ago
Quoted from Timerider:

If you feel adventurous... I started this thread years ago (but never went any farther yet; as my originals still work fine).
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tron-hallmark-light-cycle-tear-down-pictures-to-investigate-led-replacement
...direct link to pictures...
http://www.racepainter.com/pinball/Tron/LC_teardown/index.htm?0_L

Thanks but really looking for a plug and play set as of now. I have lots of projects on the go as of now.

#9311 56 days ago

What could cause the right Flipper on my Tron to stop working? Is there a fuse in that area or would it be something else?

#9312 56 days ago
Quoted from Utesichiban:

What could cause the right Flipper on my Tron to stop working? Is there a fuse in that area or would it be something else?

Most likely a fuse or disconnected wire on the flipper solenoid. Just happened on my LOTR and it was simply a fuse.

#9313 56 days ago
Quoted from snaroff:

Most likely a fuse or disconnected wire on the flipper solenoid. Just happened on my LOTR and it was simply a fuse.

Thank you! Anyone know where the fuses are for the flippers on Tron and what type they use?

#9314 56 days ago
Quoted from Utesichiban:

Thank you! Anyone know where the fuses are for the flippers on Tron and what type they use?

Page 46 of the Tron manual PDF file.

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#9315 55 days ago

Just finish putting in this speaker & amp kit that I got from pinwoofer. This thing rocks well done Dan, guy even answered all my dumb questions on a Saturday morning ASAP.

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#9316 55 days ago

Does anyone have this back glass on there Tron?
If so can you share a pic.

Also does anyone know where to shop for it?

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#9317 55 days ago

Looking for suggestions on replacing the Rinzler music clip that starts looping once the target bank drops.

It is the one track that I don't care for... I don't need help with PinBrowser, just want to hear what others subbed in for that track.

Thanks!

#9318 55 days ago
Quoted from frankmac:

Does anyone have this back glass on there Tron?
If so can you share a pic.
Also does anyone know where to shop for it?[quoted image]

If you do find one let me know I’d take one to.

#9320 54 days ago
Quoted from Twilight1:

Just finish putting in this speaker & amp kit that I got from pinwoofer. This thing rocks well done Dan, guy even answered all my dumb questions on a Saturday morning ASAP.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Cool. I always appreciate above and beyond customer service. I'm sure that he just landed a repeat customer because if that!

#9321 54 days ago
Quoted from snaroff:

Yes...the LED in these cycles don't last forever unfortunately. I purchased a new one on Amazon for $25 back in August. Looks like it's still available, however the price is now $35 (for the 2011 yellow/orange). The 2010 blue Lightcycle is no longer available.
Disassembling the cycle and fiddling with it didn't seem worth it.

Ebay has them

#9322 54 days ago
Quoted from Strummy:

Cool. I always appreciate above and beyond customer service. I'm sure that he just landed a repeat customer because if that!

He absolutely did. Met is next!

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#9323 54 days ago

I decided I wanted to improve the neon flickering effect on my Flynn's sign, and I found some time to write the controller code.

It does a flickering effect when turning on, then a pulsating while it stays on.

#9324 53 days ago

That's pretty cool. Wonder if it can be game interactive. For instance, it only comes on when you shoot it in the scoop and stays lit for 10-15 seconds or so. Every time it goes in the scoop it goes through the routine.

#9325 53 days ago
Quoted from herg:

I decided I wanted to improve the neon flickering effect on my Flynn's sign, and I found some time to write the controller code.
It does a flickering effect when turning on, then a pulsating while it stays on.

You going to put this up for sale??

#9326 53 days ago
Quoted from herg:

I decided I wanted to improve the neon flickering effect on my Flynn's sign, and I found some time to write the controller code.
It does a flickering effect when turning on, then a pulsating while it stays on.

Oooo that’s sexy

#9327 53 days ago
Quoted from 85vett:

That's pretty cool. Wonder if it can be game interactive. For instance, it only comes on when you shoot it in the scoop and stays lit for 10-15 seconds or so. Every time it goes in the scoop it goes through the routine.

I currently have it monitoring the Flynn's Arcade insert. When that turns on, so does the sign.

Quoted from AUKraut:

You going to put this up for sale??

Hmmm... I could if people really wanted them. I used one of my Sys11 GI OCD boards and wrote different firmware for it. The cables are a bit confusing.

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#9328 52 days ago
Quoted from herg:

I decided I wanted to improve the neon flickering effect on my Flynn's sign, and I found some time to write the controller code.
It does a flickering effect when turning on, then a pulsating while it stays on.

nice!

a GI OCD board in a Stern SAM machine... whatever next...

#9329 52 days ago
Quoted from monkeyboypaul:

nice!
a GI OCD board in a Stern SAM machine... whatever next...

I also used one in my AMH to control my topper. The Sys11 one is basically a microcontroller, MOSFET outputs and a optocoupler input. You can do a LOT of different things with that combination. Plus, I have LED control / dimming code that I can easily modify for these kinds of uses.

#9330 51 days ago
Quoted from herg:

I currently have it monitoring the Flynn's Arcade insert. When that turns on, so does the sign.

Hmmm... I could if people really wanted them. I used one of my Sys11 GI OCD boards and wrote different firmware for it. The cables are a bit confusing.[quoted image][quoted image]

Cool but you should make it so one of the "N"s is flickery like in the movie.

I also need the actual Flynn's sign piece for my game, any idea where I could get one of those?

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#9332 38 days ago

Yes, I have it on mine. I like it. It does crazy things with the ball from time to time. But nothing damaging. I recommend it

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#9333 27 days ago

Is a 2020's contemporary Tron possible ?

or am I drifting too far ?
The tune and clip I found engaging

#9334 27 days ago

I think Stern have missed the boat for a Tron VE.

Far better to make a new game with LCD etc.

Maybe get the license if this comes off?

Good music in that Uprising for sure.

https://us.blastingnews.com/showbiz-tv/2019/12/potential-tron-reboot-in-the-works-at-disney-003030596.html

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#9335 6 days ago
Quoted from herg:

I decided I wanted to improve the neon flickering effect on my Flynn's sign, and I found some time to write the controller code.
It does a flickering effect when turning on, then a pulsating while it stays on.

Can I commission one for my machine? Love the effect!

#9336 6 days ago
Quoted from bjorg:

Can I commission one for my machine? Love the effect!

Same here!

#9337 6 days ago

The board, firmware, and mounting bracket, I can easily do. If you can handle the cabling yourself, you can order a Sys11 GI OCD from my website and request in the notes that I make it into a Flynn's controller.

#9338 6 days ago
Quoted from herg:

The board, firmware, and mounting bracket, I can easily do. If you can handle the cabling yourself, you can order a Sys11 GI OCD from my website and request in the notes that I make it into a Flynn's controller.

Done. Really like little touches like this. Will go nicely with my smooth animation hack to the backbox lighting:

--Donnie

#9339 5 days ago
Quoted from herg:

The board, firmware, and mounting bracket, I can easily do. If you can handle the cabling yourself, you can order a Sys11 GI OCD from my website and request in the notes that I make it into a Flynn's controller.

I really like the look of that, simple but effective.

Might be asking for one if/when someone from the UK pinball forum does a US shopping trip in the near future....

I don't have the power breakout board though, so assume i'll have to make up some cabling of my own... which might not be so straight forward.

#9340 5 days ago
Quoted from monkeyboypaul:

I don't have the power breakout board though, so assume i'll have to make up some cabling of my own... which might not be so straight forward.

That's just a splitter for the Stern accessory power connector. I gotta think there's a European distributor with those, or maybe you'll only need a single splitter cable, which are also available (likely in Europe, too).

--Donnie

#9341 1 day ago

Basically, it's just constant 12V in (the yellow/black pair), PWM controlled 12V output (red/black pair), and a connection to the Flynn's arcade insert (the black wires and red connector). As djb_rh says, any Stern splitter would work.

#9342 22 hours ago

Anyone have a spare Flynn plastic available? Mine just cracked :/

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