IMO, Casino Royale was pretty terrible. The poker scenes were especially bad. I mean, when have you ever seen someone at a table win with a royale flush up against straight flush, four of a kind, etc, etc. It's practically comical.

Melissa McCarthy's 'Spy' was more enjoyable than Casino Royale. Loved Jason Statham in it.

I could go for a BTTF pin, the movies are better than Ghostbusters IMO. Could be lucrative to explore past hit franchises for future pins. Surely better than Wrestlemania and what not.

What about backhanding the LE/Premium ramp, wonder if that will be an issue.

I've gotta say, I'm getting tired of plunging a ball into 3 gates then have it go into the pops. Can we please kill this element in pinball? It's just a waste of real estate at this point.

Well, most of the time it dribbles to a lane down to the flippers or slings. I'm okay with pops, but the 3 gates have overstayed their welcome if you ask me.

I remember the good ole days when Sterns were 4K and you got a fully loaded pin. Paid this for FGY, SM, and POTC. This pro, premium, LE model thing is terrible. For a hobby that is hurting to generate interest, you'd think they would want more pins in people's hands instead of fewer pins, but for more money.

Also crazy how competition has somehow increased the costs instead of reduced them...

Well for me, I bought 3 pins at the 4K price and haven't bought a new one since the prices increased. Pinball may be doing alright, but I'd say in general pinball interest is pretty low. I think cost are high because of the relative low volume of machines being sold.

If ford sold 3k vehicles, you can bet they'd be a lot more expensive. You can also look at Teslas, the lower volume cars are more expensive. Their new high volume car is significantly cheaper.

BMW's model is a little different than Teslas. Tesla needs the expensive sports car to fund the luxurious sedan, and the sedan to fund the affordable car. Their goal all along was to get to the mass market car. You see, the more people who own electric cars, the better it is for their business. They don't want to be a niche electric car company; they want to fundamentally change how we travel. Big endeavor, especially once you throw in automated driving and supercharger network vs gas stations.

Stern is going for relatively high margin low volume instead of low margin high volume. This is fine cuz you make same profit from selling less machines, but the problem is, you're not really growing your consumer base.

No doubt they make killer margins off the LEs compared to the pros. Their old games are every bit equal to premiums of today but the price went from 4K to 6800 in a very short time.

I really don't want to spend 6800, but man that GB sure looks nice.

I might, gotta see the slings and goggles before I decide...

I hear Stern included a hidden magnasling option in the pros, you just have to turn your slings to "off." Only catch is, they work 10 percent less than the LE/Premium.

I recently played a Met Pro and LE as I was deciding between a premium or pro. I just couldn't justify the cost for what you get, especially now that the pros have LEDs (I know not RGBs). The cross is kind of cool, but it's a small effect. The snake mouth actually annoyed me on the LE as it felt like a bricked shot, and I enjoy stashing balls in the snake during multiball on the pro. I like the idea behind the hammer and having the clear casket, but the hammer failed to operate too many times from my experience. Also, the square target for the hammer is nowhere near as good as the captive ball. With the price difference I was able to pick up a color dmd which i think is way better than anything the premium offers and still have money leftover.

In the end I'm happy with my purchase and don't feel cheated in the slightest. I love the Met pro so much I'm questioning whether I should get a GB premium as planned. The slimer on the pro does seem cooler to me, and I'm not sure how much more the subway ramp offers over the pro ramp. So far, I haven't heard anyone rave over the ecto goggles. The magnaslings do interest me though.

I'd like to hear opinions on people deciding between the pro and premium. So far I'm not overly impressed with the premium. I think the right ramp is much better and the slings, but I think the ramp, slimer, and ecto goggles are marginal.

Hey JT designed this game for a red dmd, I better not add a colordmd and ruin his vision!! Who cares about his vision, just so long that the game is fun is all that matters. There are many great pros out there that aren't compromised. Heck, on some cases putting the extra money towards mods improves the game over a premium.

Wow, that sounds terrible. I hope the rules on the game evolve beyond handling modes in this fashion.

BTW, Borg doesn't have a perfect record. IJ4 has one of the worst rules of any game. I know he didn't code the game, but still. I also think Dwight could have done better with POTC. It would be a shame if GB is held back due to the code because it's a great theme and beautiful looking game.

It would be interesting if there was a setting that allowed for unlimited balls, but timed how long it took to complete the game. Maybe a setting like this would be good for some people in a home environment. Some wizard modes are fantastic, but it's a shame not many people get to see them. Maybe this mind set too could led to some new original rule sets.

Some video games are designed to be more of an adventure as oppose to a difficult challenge with a sense of accomplishment.

Ghostbusters flipper gap...

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Thanks for the videos; is it possible to change the orientation of the camera and then rotate it with software so the playfield is expanded?

If they throw in another mb, it could throw off the progression of collecting ghosts and make it too easy. They'd have to have a completely self contained mb mode. The other problem with that is, it would also have to be an easily obtainable mb and may get annoying if it is stopping your main progress so early on.

I'm not sure if it works...

Got a chance to put some time on a GB Pro this weekend; the game is pretty fantastic. I was on the fence with GB and TWD, but now I'm pretty sold on GB. As everyone knows, it's a beautiful looking machine. The theme is also a winner for me. The flipper gap didn't bother as much as expected, but it may have helped that the outlines were as closed as possible with the posts. I heard from some on here about the right ramp being kind of poor, but I really enjoyed it. It's a tight shot, but easily doable. Yeah the ball goes up before it comes around to the flipper, but it's integrated nicely with earning more ghosts the further it goes up. I thought the game flowed nice and was rather smooth with the spinner shot, left ramp, and inlane shot. The storage facility multiball is easily achievable and is not an issue IMO. The modes seemed cool with nice integrated shots. I love how the arrows are utilized, makes knowing what to do very apparent unlike some other games. My only real issue is that some of the call outs are used too often and the PKE lanes are hard to see.

I was sold on a premium, but I really enjoyed the Pro, I'm kinda second guessing which one I should order now. Great game, hopefully Stern will get its S together with the playfields so I can order one.