That's a good call. Especially if they are finally revealing the LCD. I am pretty sure they used CES to announce spike. The addition of the LCD would make complete sense at an electronics show.

Stern wouldn't do the pro with a dmd and the LE with an LCD, right?

. . . RIGHT?!?!

(I know, two different animations and coding etc. just making a joke on gimping features)

Did the whitewood and cad images show up on pinside (and presumably get taken down)? Anyone know where else to find them?

What does that even mean?!

It just seemed so vague. No one was really speculating there would be a lack of features. And "innovation 10 fold" provides no specifics. What do you know about the release date?

I feel like the same was said for GoT . . .

Where did the magnetic slings rumor come from? That sounds like an awful idea. Not only would it not accomplish the same function as a sling but I feel like it would be unreliable.

Right?! I just see balls getting nudged towards the drain rather than actually bouncing like a normal sling would. Magnets could not react the same way.

I agree, TWD magnets can put some stank on a ball, but I feel like that is often during a rollover when the ball isn't at full momentum, or after the ball has bounced off of something (barn). I can't see a ball coming down a playfield, bouncing into a magnet and kicking back with the same velocity as a sling. But I could be wrong. I would love to see Stern prove me wrong with some crazy.

Really?!

This "leak" hardly shows anything that wasn't already on Star_gazer's mock-up, a mock-up that you were pushing along with "warmer/colder" hints. Besides that, weren't you the one that originally posted the whitewood before it was confirmed?

For the record, nothing against, mnpinball, it just seems silly to be so open with bits and pieces then calling foul when someone confirms them.

Soooo who's getting fired for that info?

I kid, I kid.

But seriously, I am struggling to spot "10x innovation" in this pin. Is it purely the "peppers ghost" feature?

To be fair, it is a speculation thread. But to be even more fair, there have been many a sneak peeks that made it past moderators for a few seconds.

I would like to think stern knows better than to green that entire machine and still use red dots . . .

That's sort of a disconnected statement. Is nobody jumping ship because of the theme or that Stern hasn't made any missteps so far? The "I am out"s from before were all a result of lazy art or tame palyfields. I agree it will sell like crazy, but what you "love about ghostbusters" shouldn't be that Stern hasn't dropped the ball yet.

That 100% could only be considered accurate because we have only seen one game, and even then it's in the eye of the beholder. FTH was their first attempt at a game, and the first game with an LCD in the palyfield so I give them a little leeway. I don't think an LCD in the playfield ruins the art by default. I think if incorporated correctly it could work.

Because not doing GOT and GB with actual video is a missed opportunity.

That's twice now you've called something you haven't seen an "abortion". Give it a rest and let a new generation decide if they like it or not.

Also, perhaps it's best that Harold Ramis is dead? Are you kidding me? I am sure that will get brushed off as a joke but seriously, they're remaking a movie, it's not that sacred. Relax.

The key there is you saw (I assume) those movies before you made your judgment. So far nobody has seen the new Ghostbusters and is already lambasting it and as I type this I realize I am on pinside so premature judgments is the norm.

I feel like that's the second time you've specifically referenced, and praised the Karate Kid reboot on here. I haven't seen it. Is it that good?!? Doesn't it replace "wax on, wax off" with the much cheekier "jacket on, JACKET OFF"?!

Also, do we know where this ghost is being projected?

I heard a rumor there was going to be a Ghostbusters pin. Anyone know anything about it?

So yeah, ghostbusters. What's the theory on the laser beams? Who's got insider info on that? Do we know if the drop targets are actually hiding the memory game cards? How big is the peppers ghost effect going to be? Will Stay puft have some movement or just be stationary? Let's get back on track here.

To be honest, I was kinda wondering if the Lebowski pics from DP would spark any new info "leaking". . .

Are you saying that cause of the cast or because of the suits? This picture provides no context, they are wearing generic jumpsuits, notice no logos. It's not some official release (in before "because it has the actors in it, unlike the shitty teaser'), it's from someone snooping on the set.

I am not saying I think it's going to be a good movie, but thats because I haven't seen it and it would be, and is absurd to draw any conclusions form a single unsolicited picture.

It's shit like this that tips the scales from "they're ruining my favorite movie" to "women can't do things".

They are targeting people who watch movies. They aren't targeting old dudes who loved the original movie. That movie still exists. Watch that at home by yourself on opening day of the new one.

This is for a new generation of humans of all ages. Again, I am not promising some amazing blockbuster, I am just being reasonable with judgements sight un-seen.

"Looks" or "attractiveness" are only considered when it's female leads. Did you see the original ghosbusters because Dan Akroyd is such a hunk?! They were all nerdy average dudes. You're hinging the new female leads' abilities entirely based on their looks. I am not playing any cards. You straight up said they are unattractive so they wont be any good. Standards shouldn't be different.

Lowepg's idea of a "good" reboot.

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Excuse me. You simply implied the only value a female has is their appearance. That feels a double standard since you didn't go see the original because of how attractive the men were (I am assuming . . .).

I would hope that you could look past their appearance and see it for their comedic abilities before you make any judgments. That's all.

And that's valid. This movie is comedy and should be judged as such. Not a pinup contest.

I deemed that critique valid because it was an opinion on the comedy, not their appearance. You're argument until your last post had been that you don't want to see it because the actresses are ugly.

And get that PC nonsense out of here, I am just trying to be reasonable. I am not saying this movie will be good but I am saying judge it for the right reasons, not because the actresses don't do if for you sexually.

And if that's your basis for a good ghostbuster movie, which of the original ghostbusters did you find the sexiest? Was it Dan with those pouty lips? Or Bill with his lovable widows peak??

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So only men can catch ghosts. Got it . . .

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Also, Terminator 2.

I thought people were saying Texas Pinball fest, so late march?

what are you basing that on?

LEAK!!! BAN HIM!!!!1

kidding. I hadn't noticed before, and its likely due to the crop of a cellphone pic or something but that GI light almost looks painted.

Are you talking about the original two movies or the remake coming out soon?

If the ad is any indication that backglass is final. Murray still looks kinda dopey . . .

Maybe dopey wasn't accurate. FalconPunch is more on track with the pouty, duck-face look.

It's almost like this was the source material, but more puckered up.

I know I am splitting hairs, everything else thus far has looked amazing, but Murray just stands out.

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Is it just me or were they doing full-motion-video animations in that teaser? Or do they normally do animations like that and then dot-ize it?

That's what I am wondering! Is this normal practice for DMD animations? To do full 3 renderings then flatten them?

Really interesting in seeing these mag-slings in action . . .

What is "Public Library Butyrate"?!

It would be a weird choice on their part to highlight something so significant that wasn't going to be making it into the final game. Having said that, if it is for the ecto-goggles, that seems like a lot of detail for a 2 inch hologram. . .

I asked it in the other thread and I'll ask it again here, does anyone actually know what this mode is/was?! Everyone wants it but nobody seems to be able to explain it short of an ambiguous CAD image that tells us nothing.

And that animation . . .

They're discussing pinball. In a forum. That's what were all here for. Anyone getting defensive over a simple question or a topper critique is coming off as fanboy-ish and likely seeing things through ecto-goggle glasses.

Was that spray painted on with a stencil?!

Sorry, was the negative space of that cut-out spray painted?

I am shocked.

Especially when things start leaking . . .

To be fair, this WAS a speculation thread before it was "real". And until anyone has any real input on the magna slings all we can do is speculate.

It's become a fun back-and-forth of people curiously discussing a new feature in a game and people who are die-hard Ghostbuster fans calling those people crazy for even thinking that the pin will be anything but perfect.

Isn't this like a silver dollar sized image we are going to see? While I really like the idea and can't wait to see it in action, I am struggling to see such a tiny animation bring the whole machine to life. If anything ZY already did that.

Now, when you guys say "hover", you do realize its just projected ON that circular lens, right?

I thought it was projected down onto that lens to appear as if its below it. Right?

I hope you guys that keep using the word "hover" aren't expecting this . . .

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That was my thought too. From what I can tell, the "ECTO GOGGLES" box houses a screen, the reflective disc sits below it and mirrors what the screen plays. No extra dimensions, no full-on holograms.

I want to stress that I am not try to pooh-pooh the idea, just not getting any grandiose ideas.

No technology but a lot of curved mirrors.

but those were just images on glass . . .

The ghosts on the glass will be (from my understanding) the same as the aliens on the glass. Only, instead of the whole glass that covers the playfield being the reflector, it will be that circular piece of glass.

Think of it as a tiny version of this. . . Only on a circular piece of glass of course.

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Way to keep those secrets under wraps . . .

I liked the idea of slings that acted normal for a majority of play but would act up for modes and special moments. To have such sporadic movement (and really slowing down the ball, often bringing it to a complete stop) throughout seems like it could get old. Especially when it causes drains.

Pro just landed in Portland, OR. Sadly this was taken as I was on my way to work. Will know how it plays in just over eight hours . . .

Apparently that is #2 in the area. The recently opened Quarter World set theirs up yesterday.

Was there any doubt? I think everything beat the machine in coverage. Regardless of how much all of us are refreshing Pinside for updates this is still a very niche market.

So I am thinking that 1 way hinge (sorry, not sure on the official term) that leads into the Ecto-goggles is far enough ahead that it will trigger the exploding ghost animation in the goggles as the ball travels underneath. . . if that makes any sense.

Stern doing a pre-stream stream, and just saw the Slimer mech drag over the rails to get in place.

From what I can tell he simply rotates out of the pops. There is a single rod that he extends from the playfield and it looks like it is sitting at little bit of an angle. He just goes back and forth around it.

I noticed because he drags over the rail next to the newton (i think) in order to get out, which seems very lazy and could lead to wear and tear.

If you look closely you can see him drag over the newton.

Of course you do; this machine can do no wrong!

It's not being blown out of proportion, it's being discussed. It is an odd design choice and to me it comes of as corner-cutting.

"Something is missing . . . I know, let's have Slimer drag across this part of the playfield. Perfect!"
~John Trudeau

Rather than the limited left and right? I would almost wager the pro mech is more complicated than the premium since it's just a spinning rod.

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What are you basing that on? Just because of the models they are in?

Slightly more complicated? Possibly. More expensive? No. None of us know all the details behind the production of this pin, but we do know Stern knows how to make a buck.

Besides, having fancy side-to-side motion in the prem/le could easily make the consumer think they're justified paying a few thousand dollars more for the "upgrade".

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That's why he doesn't. He sells to everyone, hence multiple price points. I would imagine that many operators would lean towards the pro since it's cheaper, easier to maintain and therefore more of a money maker. Granted there aren't as many arcades as there were 20 years ago so those who used to go out to play will stay at home. Which is why some of the "lite" models will go to consumers too. Not everyone can spend 8 grand on a machine, not matter how much of the designer's true vision is involved. I don't get why you have to put-down the pro model. Spend your money how you want to and don't worry about anyone else.

Is that just a sticker on there?!

I don't know if there is something in particular with the Ghostbuster's fan-base, but I feel like this theme has really brought the jerks out of the woodworks. From telling other people how to feel about games to questioning their ability to play, the defenders of this game need to lighten up.

And it's "whine" people. Get it right. All your typos of "wine" make me want a drink.

With the box set on the shelf lol. Serious fan.

Came here to say the same thing. Kid responds to all of the negative pinside comments on the machine's first game.

Magna slings not being as active as the regulars on the pro?

Now, would this be the third time Kirk was ejected form his own thread? Or just the second?

Wrong again.
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Man, I know it's been said before, but I really wish stern would put a LITTLE more effort into incorporating that LE "plaque". I also know that saving money is the name of the game at stern but when customers are paying top dollar for these machines you would think they could something nicer. It looks like such an afterthought.

I just broke my monitor at work by slapping the side of it trying to nudge that shot.