Just noticed the reflection off the clearcoat on the bottom left of this pic. Look at that sweet CC! Looks a bit like a gravel road.
Let's hope this was just a proto PF

On another note Yeti served up a ridiculously busy PF (that we pin fans like!) and the colors used are great but I wonder if IN PERSON all those thin painted "vacu-form" buildings and structures will look as good as it does in the pics? Or will it look flimsy and cheesy in real life?

Hopefully the former!

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Well they did say the spelling will be corrected so this PF probably had just one quick half-spray and that's it. Hence the raw wood texture.

Still it reminds you of the gamble of a Stern NIB. You just don't really know if you'll get a nice glossy PF or one that looks like the photo but is still "within quality range"...as they'll say when you complain. I've ended up with both in the past...

Yeah let's bring up a phobia that involves images on a public interwebz forum... what could go wrong?

Btw if perforated images DO bother you... better not look at the app screen on the Apple watch. This phobia promptly got flogged to death on the Apple forums when the watch was first released.

I find it rather... disturbing. Is there supposed to be an invisible ghost head between his legs or something? Then the expression on his face might make sense.

No controversy. Just my bad... I hadn't seen the movie in 25 years and forgot the events towards the end. STILL find the expression on his face a little creepy though. But quite accurate to the movie obviously

At first glance I thought it was a slot machine...hmmm dumb me

I doubt if it would cause any more wear than traditional modern slings powerfully smacking the ball away from those same spots constantly. Then again some put down mylar in front of the slings so I think it will be a personal choice...as with any machine.
Luckily all I would want is the Premium (if any at all) so I have time to actually try it out first.

Sounds like the flippers will be widely spaced... I forget but he did CFTBL right? I guess I could walk up the stairs to check...how lazy am I today?

I bet all those workers are thinking "dumb gringos waste thousands buying silly and unneeded toys"

And yes guyz - hit post exactly ONCE and there are no issues. Doesn't matter if you get a black screen, an error screen or it throws you back 4 pages. Post once and your pearls of wisdom will be there at the end of the thread.

I think you'll want to come check my fridge then... you'll find some unique and exciting specimens.

Yeah running over pedestrians can be such a bother. Don't stream and drive

I figured somebody would reply with this... can't argue with it either.

After all the amazing hype here I did watch a little of the stream and guess what... it's just another pinball machine And I'm officially sick of the GB theme (if I wasn't already)... didn't hear any call outs??

In all seriousness I think we need to see the magnet kickers and hologram to differentiate this thing from all the others. Then I'll be hyped!

It got better when Dwight played it and knew what he was doing

I'd have serious deja vu playing this game. The ascending orchestra hits when it tallies up the score is EXACTLY like NGG. A little quicker but exactly the same. And sounding like a WMS is not a bad thing btw.

1) agreed
2) yeah if you can't close the outlanes much or tone down the slings it could be rough sledding indeed
3) That's the problem with "big intro" multiballs...great at first but pretty soon you wish you could fast forward through them (TAF I'm looking at you) And the code is considered prototype so I expect there will be much more
4) Toppers ugly but to me most toppers look out of place and useless. Keep it clean and don't put expensive closet clutter up there in the first place.
5) Except for Dwight of course nobody knew how to play it...and it showed but what did you expect? Most of these reveals nobody knows how to play 'em and I guess that's half the fun. They'll be better gameplay videos down the line.

I think the sound was pretty decent... as far as sounding "classic" it really *should* as there were some "classic" sounds lifted and shoved right in there...WOZ,NGG,etc. NOT hearing the main GB constantly was a great relief.

Overall I'd say it came off reasonably successful.

Let's hope it's not that linear because I had a nice Pinball Magic that I really wanted to keep but had to dump just for this reason. The thought of having to do the exact same modes every game became the ultimate turn off. I knew it was like that going in and thought I could live with it... but until you own such a linear machine you don't realize how tiresome it is.

I'm sure it can't be that bad.

So what's your point? I resemble that remark

Yeah it just brought back some memories...my first was indeed actually TAF and FH from a guy in PA. Later I achieved my rank as collector by getting a TZ They're all long gone but not forgotten.

Yeah just wait until the hoopla dies down and the deals will magically improve. With all the clamor for the title why would the dealers give anything away at this point? This is when you milk it a bit and then make more competitive deals when the demand drops.

For a Premium or Pro... why rush into it? You know like any title you'll be bored with it in a month anyways

#8037 First pic I believe...

Yes the pics are in post #8037. First pic shows the chipped up black metal bracket ABOVE the toy.

Well in any case it's rather hideous and right in plain view so I suspect there will be an assortment of mods available to try to hide the thing.

In fact there is a GB mods thread... if the PF is not already cluttered up enough for your taste

Yeah problem is a lot of us are burned out on the reversed flipper multiball thing as we did it to death on TSPP. So for some of us...
the less we see that gimmick the better.

Yeah he sorta is...

I think you need to consider a) if you live in a detached home, and b) if anybody else lives there with you...and will they STILL live there with you after you get this

I can take 'em or leave them but it is something to think about. Pins aren't exactly silent in the first place.

I'd go ahead and put down some mylar and then sleep easy. Those half-moons used to be common practice until quality clearcoat arrived. It's probably overkill but why not? You can always carefully remove it later (when others report on the issue) and the area will be pristine.

And naturally, for no real factual reason, they blame the negative reaction on "sexism" because the characters are female this time around. Real classy. I'd say what I think of the "reporter" and his bias but don't want to be accused of injecting politics into anything

I think you may be clutching at straws here... plus people that already have them in their home have the misspelled inserts so that kinda muddies the water also.

Well it did drop it right down the middle at about the 43 min mark

Stern seemed open to doing this and I bet they will. They know a lot of their home customers have families and children and don't want to lose sales. I'd give them a little time as the questionable language comes direct from the movie samples they are using.

Yeah maybe somebody could explain how to do this to the game's actual designer... he never complained about the sling action or he could have simply reached under the bend the leaf switch more towards the rubber. There may be a reason you don't want the gap to be hair sensitive.

It would be the first thing I would try also but you'd think they would have tried this already and the negative may outweigh the positive.
We'll find out soon enough from the LE people. I think they're kinda neat myself.

No. Seemed like an afterthought to the gameplay actually. Still...better to have it than not. They could always add some objectives to it later in the code I suppose.

That's a great idea. Since it simply feeds back to itself a mini-mode could be to see how many repeated shots you could make.
It would make a nice little diversion from the main gameplay.

I'm impressed. You've mastered Panzer-speak. I tried in a post but failed big-time.

That's why "complainers" are crucial over here. Squeaky wheel gets the grease and all that... good news for you guys.

On Stern's FB page somebody asked about the bash toy hitting the plastic buildings, etc when he rotates around. They said the toy wouldn't show damage because the slimer is molded in green plastic.
They didn't mention the probability of eventually scratching up the buildings or newton ball setup.

So I don't think it raises and lowers at all - just side to side like a windshield wiper.

Yup. Plastics already break from time to time so I would hate to watch the machine do a harikari on itself every time you fire it up.

But who knows... maybe it would take a year before you see a definite groove dug into the plastics or a scratch on the newton...

Might not be a big issue. Does look a little awkward as he comes stumbling out like a drunk

I guess it makes sense from a business and reliability standpoint. One simple mech for each type of machine. Apparently a little up and down action for the beginning of his sweep was too ambitious for Stern.

I don't see an obvious solution for it either. If you raise the slimer to clear the plastics then the ball won't be able to hit it when it's in position. Smarter guys than me will figure it out though... that's if it's any kind of problem in the first place.

Has nothing to do with the toy. Has to do with your expensive plastics getting gashed up over time. Very few things get scratched as easily as pin plastics

It just seems like an odd design choice.

Your clock must not be set right...?

I just wonder how they made a machine about a funny kid's movie so completely... humorless?? Are there *any* funny call outs in this game at all?

In fact there seem to be almost no call outs at all... just 80's style music with some public domain sound effects (like the guitar pick scratch). Did Stern have to pay per sound clip or what? The lack of voices in this during gameplay is really noticeable.

Hudson sounds like he is channeling some William Shatner at one point... Get.the.extra.ball!

Funny watching people trying this out for the first time... you can tell they *want* to like it and then when they lose the ball repeatedly after 10 or 20 seconds they get this completely confused look on their face. "Is it supposed to be like this?"

Yeah you would think it would be LOADED with funny quips from the movie but there is just... silence. I thought it would be full of personality considering the source.

There's something wrong when Buzz and Bud have a massive amount of one-liners from a game almost 20 years old and this has almost none.

Maybe they really did have to pay per line... otherwise why not fill the space with constant call-outs from the movie (s)???

Some funny/sad stuff in that stream. Saw a Dad and his kid... kid's up first - *instantly* loses the ball down the middle and you can see him cursing.
Then Dad gets a shot... starts shaking the machine around...he's gonna KICK SOME ASS!! - then HE instantly loses the ball down the middle. Now they're BOTH cursing away

I get that we all like a tough game for the home...TWD is my ultimate fav. But the average guy sees this game with almost childish amount of color on the PF, hears the bouncy GB music and expects a TAF-like good time. Instead he gets these 20 sec ball times.

Could you imagine if they had a designer make a fun but forgiving layout to go with the art and music? Hell Stern would NEVER quit selling them.

Sure it might not be the machine for OUR homes but it could have made money rain on Stern for a decade.

Well we know yesterday sure didn't help them sell any games!

Hmmm I DO like a woman that thinks like you

Yeah you would think a grown man that admits to collecting children's Ghostbuster toys his whole life would have an abundant sense of humor.

Carrot flipper implants needed?

What's strange too is there are virtually NO random funny callouts at *all* in this game. You get Ernie's work and very few samples for the modes. That's it.

I thought this game would be overflowing with movie samples to give it some personality but they must have wanted Stern to pay for each phrase used... only thing I can think of.

I saw this in another guy's video... and to think some complained about TWD "keeping the ball in pops too long"

Sorry about your inserts... it's ALWAYS been a gamble buying a Stern - but usually a pretty safe one. Only slightly worse than buyng a WMS NIB in my experience.

But right now it's become an unacceptable gamble.

I actually mentioned Slimer dragging his ass over PF plastics on Stern's facebook page when they showed the first LE video. They stated he was made of soft material so this wouldn't be an issue and was normal behavior. So there ya go... it's considered "normal".

Looks odd to me but that's apparently the way it was designed.

It's more than just cosmetics. With the cc being loose on the insert there is the possibility that it will chip off entirely. Then things get ugly quick.

proof?

Those are just scratches from the belt or drum sander as they first level the inserts. Nothing to worry about but they really are more obvious than they used to be on older machines. Partially because Stern's LED's are so damn bright. My TWD shows this to the point I tell myself "it's a special insert glitter effect"

Otherwise it might bug me.

That's a lot more elegant than Stern's "slide in a metal ruler" fix Only two bucks too!

I think that's the entire point of it

lol

You act as if the LE's get more care and scrutiny than the others. To the workers it's just another build. The extra money you pay goes toward different GFX and different mechs... and of course profit!

I bet they slap them together just like the Pro's - no more and no less.

Is that how the clear arrow inserts are supposed to look? They look a little... odd in the pics.

I gotta say - between Stern's PF problems and JT's design "deficiencies" (air balls, bending wire, outlane hopping, etc)... this
game is keeping you guys REAL busy. But that's not a bad thing in this hobby right? (assuming the PF's get fixed somehow).

Hey even in English we don't know what to call Stern's latest odd insert issues

I bet they look fine lit up and that's what matters more in the end.

But how's the PLAYFIELD look?? bada-boom!

I joke as I'm sure you'll get a new machine.

Looks good Art!

Not a good thread for Star Trek fans. Captain Picard also had a freakout over the "holes in Stay Puft's face" and disappeared.

I figured they're both sharing a padded room somewhere. The excitement and controversy was just too much for 'em

Apparently it is indeed an actual phobia... not sure if making a huge public scene about it is part of the condition though. Was a classic "goodbye cruel world" Pinside exit however. And we've seen quite a few of these over the years. It's almost a PS tradition. In fact I'm going to start penning my exit rant in advance to ensure it's the biggest and most embarrassing ever. Why do anything half assed?

And now that we've mentioned it... I predict some helpful PS'ers will be posting pics. lol They sure did the first time IIRC.

Yeah even just replacing the decal will be a PIA as the front has to come off too... unless just the side of it can be lifted and then stuck back down again.

Not sure I love this overlapping decal thing as you can so clearly see the bulge of the side decals under the front piece... hmm

Hopefully you'll get a new machine as is probably got some structural damage... or may develop some in the future from nudging and it's own weight actually.

Or you can get the clear polycarbonate washers in various sizes. I've put those in all my games as I don't like seeing those huge, light blocking metal washers.

Some are better than others. Some will have smooth flame polished edges while other look more low-rent with whitish ground edges.
When you find a seller that has the good ones... buy a bunch

Ha... enjoyed your brutally honest appraisal of your "first time". Most have been there with some machine or another but just don't want to write about it.

Kudos to you for having the balls to do it (no pun intended).

Yeah I always thought these style of guides have little wings or barbs on them since the early days but according to Capt Neo they DO NOT. And he's said it about 20 times. And he does restorations??? Oh well...

Looks like somebody found out the hard way that these guides haven't changed since the WMS/BALLY days.