When I first heard that there may be an Ghostbusters pinball machine I was intrigued, but I do –not at all- like the Stern games because of their mostly poor Artwork (cliparts dragged in Photoshop over a variety of colortransitions) playfield.

The leaked images, first the translite and now the cab and the little snippet of the playfield give me hope. This might be my first Stern machine at all and a NIB right away.

As for the rest I didn’t care. I’ve no doubt the game will play well,… although that may take some time & updates. And since I don’t like the ‘style’ in wich the WoOZ uses the LCD Screen I was totally fine that the game will still use DMD. That was until I read all your complaints and checked the last Stern games (I played most of them some times but never really looked at the display)...

What I see there is the same lack of love like most of the times with the rest of the art. Yeah, just some scenes from the movies in shitty pixilated graphics won’t cut it I agree. But since the rest of the art seems to be completely custom art I have faith that there’ll be some hand pixelated animations as well, wich would be so much nicer referring to an old license.

That's why it's called "speculation" isn't it?

If there'll be a peppers ghost effect i'd assume the projector will be in the same spot as in the Star Trek LE/ SE, only... a better one and not some dots of course.

Since the projector there illuminated the upper playfield and the snippet of playfield artwork shows the ghostbusters in this upper area pointing (shooting) up I'd assume (if at all) the picture is projected just above the ghostbusters.

4010 Posts of wich maybe 10 are 'speculating' and the rest are a complete waste of time... and I read them all!!! -_-;

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Anyways... what's the actual speculation when whis thing will be revealed, now that valentine's over (and all we got was a teaser for a trailer)? 24th (in memory of Harold Ramis)?

Playable, but the anouncement is set for february... or at least that's what Captain Kirk wrote and everyone swallowed it.

With the Spider Man VE just getting ready for orders I can't quiet believe it anyway but I that doesn't keep me from hoping.

I just wan't to see the playfield art. If it's really hand drawn and there are not to many (essential) toys missing in the pro, I'll totaly sell everything in the house for a NIB.

That doesn't matter, they just shall announce it and take my money.

Aussiearcade is getting a lot of new Members These days!

Oh, and regarding the new cab & playfield art:

I-came-ghostbuster_(resized).jpg

Yeah, fortget what I wrote, I allready deleted ist. I mistook it for USA & Overseas wich is 50/50. Location vs. Collectors is 80/20... if what someone wrote above is to be trusted. Maybe the other way around.

The score wheels in Whoa Nellie! are a novelty factor... and a Testament to the era this pin tries to replicate. It totally stands out, so I beleive without a doubt that it is the best earning game for now.

As for Ghostbusters and the DMD: GB is a Pin I indeed kinda WANT a DMD (with nice dot animations -> NOT shitty cutscenes like Stern does now most of the time) or even an Alpha numeric Display just to replicate the era and the feel.
(But I would still prefer DMD for mor depth/ game modes.)

Seen the other way around I want LCD animatios as colorful as they could be, to match the LED Lightshow on the playfield. This may be no Problem with some modern crisp Hollywood Blockbuster, but not with some mostly brownish 80s Movie or some re-colored black and white movie (really no-one outside the USA cares about).

Srysly?! How could some movie clips anywhere fit in with the cartoony vab art and playfield?! Naaaahhhh... !

But as you mention 32% chance: What beacme of the My Little Pony pin Gary teased? - That would be - AT LEAST - 20% cooler than GB.

For me every aspect is a decision maker, starting with the theme.

1) Do I like the theme?

If yes:

2) Do I like the style? (Here it's mostly game over for the Stern games since I really hate the photoshop clip art playfields. I like the KISS playfield art, but I allready lost interrest because of 1. )

If yes:

3) Do I like the actual gameplay?

If yes:

4) Do I like the Sound/ Lightshow? (I want a spectacle! - Although THAT really is more of a Bonus bit.)

For the Ghostbusters it is the FIRST Stern game for me, where I can confirm 1+2. And since I'm an awful player, the game has to be really bad that I'm underwhelmed by the actual gameplay. So I just want to see it (and hear it) in action (to confirm point 4) and then I'll get my order ready!

There ist ALWAYS a pattern! For instance they were all announced on days ending with "day".

"It's ghostbusters! Wait for the full reveal on the convention next week!"?! - I think I'd run amok.

I kinda miss a central piece of artwork on the playfield. :-/

You can't choose your parents.

GB has a LCD. Above the Ecto Goggles.
WWE as well. Above the ring.

Srsly? Only hear spanish when they walk the assembly line.

I'll wait for the streams before ordering but I think it'll be the Pro for me.

1) I like the Pro cab & translite best.

2) Despite loosing lots of the cool factor with the missing ecto goggles & magnetic slingshots the playfield still Looks absolutely packed and not like a stripped down version like many games before. The only real change of gaming flow will come from the missing ramp from the bottom right to the left flipper.

3) The margin for the distributors here for some reason seem to be smaller on the Premium and LE models then the Pro, wich results in some strange pricing, widening the gap between the models:

Pro: 5995$ MSRP = about 5995€ (so $=€) (Cheapest I found was 5795€)
Premium: 7595$ MSRP = about 8225€ (WTF?!) (Cheapest I found was 8125€)

(8225€ are 9176$ btw)

So the Premium is about 2330$ more expensive for wich i can get some presumably cool and unique gimmiks... or another great (used) pinball machine.

So as Long as Mr. Twitchguys gameplay video doesn't look some the game is missing something/ incomplete (ore the game totally sucks) it'll be the Pro. (Otherwise I'll propably pass.)

Not Srsly.
It was meant a side-swipe to minimum wage jobs.

Edit: In general, not only the US.

He said they can behave like regular slingshots so my guess is they're NOT spooked the whole time.

ECTO-1 Siren Topper! W00t!!!

No one made a montage of the cityscape pinblades mounted inside the cabinet yet?

If you want to be on the safe side just buy all three!

I think the thing they're still working on is getting the animations for the ecto goggles ready (wich is quite obvious, since the only only existing mockup is done with 2D art from the playfield while the slingshots should be tested working perfectly before even planning of implementing them).

I don't think anything is 'delayed'. I just think none of the ecto google animations were ready by the time they made the shoot of the Premium/ LE models. Otherwise they wouldn't have taken an 2d artwork snippet off the playfield wich clearly won't featured there as well.

They're identical. - Or, at least, the LE/ Premium won't have more Color changers then the Pro model. Maybe there'll be a flasher at the subway ramp or something like that, but no big differences.

Brilliant reasoning.

The first retail pro has landed... here... literally. They flew it in.

http://pinball-universe.de/mediafiles/Bilder/ghostbusters-pro-europa-premiere.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/pinballuniverse/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1115398905177624

Too bad I had the late shift. :-/

We'll never now how the final game would have played, but the art on Magic Girl is a hunded times better. The playfield looks more like a collaborated canvas with space left for some central artwork and not an effort to squeeze some tiny art pieces between all the inserts like the GB.

Both are great works of ZY for what they are but I like when the artwork has some more room to breathe.

But in that regard the cabinet artwork of GB compensates that for me.

(Btw. can you buy the Magic Girl Backglass somewhere?)

Yeah. I just,... man... that last interview with Jpop and that he asked Stern to help him out but they wouldn't do it for totally free and that isn't how it works in his company (present tense although his company allready wasn't anymore by that time). We ALL could have gotten a Magic Girl from Stern. *sniff* (And the guys who paid upfront get a Special LE Version or somewhat.)

Mastermind.... -_-;

But yeah, he "found" Jeremy so: Yeah! Hand drawn Art is finally back to pinball in a big way and I love it. Definately getting GB NIB (never even dreamt of buying a Stern in any condition before) and hope ZY will have some more freedom for the Projects to come.

And I still don't give up hope for Magic Girl. I JPops company is bancrupt, maybe Stern buys the rights to the 3/4 finished pin for peanuts.

I only spoke of the playfield design not the lightshow and beyond, because the pin wasn't finished anyway.

With the rest you are just plainly wrong when referring to the skittles analogy. The GB is the one that is bursting with color and tiny bits spread over the playfield, while the MG has a reduced color palette. The MG at least starts with a central piece of artwork (the girl, some magic chest and the title) wich -in my opinion- looks nicer (and objectively is a nicer composition or "a" composition at all) compared to the 4 Ghostbusters (wich are the main theme) spread over the whole playfield, partly covered by ramps and stuff and only shown from behind.

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And I don't say any of them is better. They're just different and propably have been done under vastly different circumstances.

Now back to magnaslings...

I dont care!

I'll get the pro anyway because I like the cab artwork best, don't wanna wait,... and i'm poor. (Well, as 'poor' as someone buying a 6000$ toy can be called.)

Yeah and I like the KISS design (this just isn't my music) but it's still something completely different licensingwise. An intellectual property like a movie or TV series, a "franchise" with big companys and lots of people involved, has much stricter guidelines (or so it was argued for a long time). Even with GB they explicitely said that although they had the rights for the franchise, they had to get the approval for every individual likeness from the actors themselves. (I just guess that's a bit simpler if you get in touch directly with a band.)

Oh, and Metallica art looks shit.

You're obviously wrong. JT was in the Dead Flip video and he didn't strip.

scnr

He kinda just blatantly confirmed that he doesn't even try to read through any Posts (and follow an argument) that MIGHT be another opinion then his,... but still answer.

Edit: Sorry, someone allready wrote this.

Uh, as far as I remember they claimed otherwise.

Yes, the Proton beams as a gameplay mechanic have been cancelled, but there'll be some illuminated plastic beams.

Thx, this is the first helpful post in the entire Thread.

Heard that with the drains and airballs from a lot of people who managed to play that game last weekend at the european premier.

Seems like that's no individual issue. :-/

But don't forget: The playfield & flippers are still rand new, I guess with a 100+ games that will get noticably better.

Rubber Bands

Hm,... propably because the machines had to ship earlier.

Jared, you'd please get the 1.0 code uploaded to the Stern homepage?

You recall wrong,... I recall. - They said that this is a prototype, no more. The rest was up to our speculation.

In the Facebook Vid they played 1.0, wich they're shipping the machines with as they told. But I guess that only goes for domestic; that's why I'd like them to upload 1.0 for when my machine arrives these days.

You should read what is written there, it is exactly what I said.

You are right. But this is "PR", they want to "imply" this (and not to cancel your preorders) (,... at least if the Person in Charge knew that the first Batch of games will have the error).

They didn't "lie". The photoshooting was made with prototype playfields but with no word did they explicitly say that the mistake won't be on the shipped games or is a prototype exclusive typo. I thought so from the beginning that I read this, that the playfields might allready be in production and therefore they couldn't correct the spelling...

...but I don't care and get the game anyway.

Saw the Video of the LE, made my decision and finally ordered my Pro wich should hit my distributor coming monday!

Why the Pro? Because the LE/ Premium sucks Ballz of steel!!!

Nah, personally I like the cab artwork best on the pro (wich is not insignificant since it sits in my office where I stare at it most of the day, turned off) and since I only have space for one pin I'd prefer one with regular slings. And despite the ramp to the left flipperfinger (gamechanger) and the subway ramp (wich I think is useless gameplaywise but very cool) this and the rest don't justify ~2600$ extra for me.

But I will build in a shaker from day1!!!

I like GB2 a lot. Yes it's a bit different and a testament to it's time with everyone not smoking and a rap-music centric soundtrack, but thats kinda it. Only thing I wondered about is that the arrival of Vigo happens on new years eve but the movie does a very poor job communicating that.

These are just some regular working pants...

http://www.engelbert-strauss.de/Bekleidung/Hosen/Berufshosen/Bundhosen/Bundhose_e_s_motion-3310540-65181-277-224.html

Could someone post a video of the topper with the topper WORKING (IN GAME *mindblown*) and a camerawork that isn't that of a 4 year old with parkinson desease and a camera that's not using tapes?