Ghostbusters (LE)
Stern, 2016
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Stern, 2016
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Stern, 2016Quoted from CobraClutch:That's twice now you've called something you haven't seen an "abortion". Give it a rest and let a new generation decide if they like it or not.
Also, perhaps it's best that Harold Ramis is dead? Are you kidding me? I am sure that will get brushed off as a joke but seriously, they're remaking a movie, it's not that sacred. Relax.
I'll say what I want when I want. Do you know what you can give a rest? Whining.
Quoted from Captain_Kirk:I'll say what I want when I want.
That sound's familiar. 
Quoted from Cloud9:If a movie was really, really great, then what's the reason for making a remake that won't measure up? What take a great movie that really can't be improved upon and spend millions of dollars to make something that doesn't measure up and disappoints everyone? Was the new Karate kid better? Or Footloose (nobody mentioned those yet)? NO! Poltergeist and The Fog also sucked. Back to the Future could not possibly be any better - but I'm sure some asshole will eventually drag that through the mud
reboots are low risk. The storyline is proven, so even if it doesn't do great, investing money in production and a few actors means they can still profit. Same reason why reality tv took off, pay the people on the show very little, hire a few camera crews, some editors, and you can make a show for very little (but possible profit a ton on viewers). There are still some great original movies, but they are few and far between these days.
I thought the re-boot of The Mechanic was pretty good, even though the original was hard to beat. I think the key is to let enough time go by before you start re-beating a dead horse.
Quoted from Darth_Chris:I think the ghosbusters chick version is a bad idea. Putting thor as the receptionnist and all the main caracters as cameos to support that movie is like rubbing it in.
I don't who's idea it was but back in the 80 these SNL icons were the big thing in New York and the world. You can't copy paste success with different out of their league ingredients.
Star Wars VII was basically a reboot, changed the lead from a male to a female, includes cameos from most of the original actors, and it was largely applauded before anyone saw the movie. No reason to assume the GB reboot will be bad when it's using the same basic formula, and with SNL actors.
Quoted from Baiter:Star Wars VII was basically a reboot, changed the lead from a male to a female, includes cameos from most of the original actors, and it was largely applauded before anyone saw the movie. No reason to assume the GB reboot will be bad when it's using the same basic formula, and with SNL actors.
This certainly is the Star Wars movie I like the least. I will not be watching this one over and over. And to think I hated the prequel trilogy - sheesh!
Quoted from vid1900:Rise of the Planet of the Apes was a 40 years old reboot - excellent.
Casino Royale was probably a 50 year old reboot - and was the best Bond film ever.
Most things you say are spot on but Casino Royale is a mediocre Bond movie. It's just Jason Bourne with the Bond name. None of the poker is remotely interesting or realistic. I've never seen the old Casino Royale so I can't say if it's better but best bond film? No way.
Every 1980's movie reboot has failed, with the exception of Karate Kid. They are NOT a safe bet, if anything, one of the worst bets to make (unless they involve superheroes) NOBODY WANTS THESE FILMS.
Anyone paying attention should have noticed that it's the in-continuity "soft reboots" that are working. (Creed, Jurassic World, Force Awakens, Mad Max) They basically make the original movie over again (a remake) but do it using a younger generation (like Creed's son, or Rey) with as many original actors as possible.
I agree TFA was just a Ep4 remake (way too much of one, way too safe) but it still can't be compared to new GB because TFA isn't trying to say the old movies "don't matter".
The trailer has a masterful line where Han Solo says "The stories are true - all of them" What he's actually saying is YOUR CHILDHOOD WAS REAL and that's why the movie went over like gangbusters. Embracing childhood, not pissing on it. Anyone who actually lived back in the 80's knows what a Big Deal the original movie was.
Ghostbusters should be the same way. Maybe the tales of the original GB are legend, nobody believes in ghosts anymore, so some women start up a franchise and meet the old team along the way. Maybe all ghosts HAVE been busted, and they're out of a job, but then some new threat shows up and the fat old geezers come out of mothballs to train a new team.
My biggest issue with reboots is we're creating a generation of content with nothing new. What if all movies in the 80's were remakes of 1950's films? Would we be salivating over an upcoming "African Queen" pinball machine instead of GB? In 20 years we'll be nostalgic for nostalgia = cultural bankruptcy. And yes, I know a couple awesome 80's movies WERE remakes, but they were from obscure sources.
Quoted from dmbjunky:I've never seen the old Casino Royale so I can't say if it's better but best bond film?
It may have been the first one I ever saw. Can't compare it to the re-boot though because I haven't seen it.
Quoted from MapleSyrup:I would like to chime in about the anti reboot nonsense.
Reboots happen all the time. Sequels are made. Old movies are remade. Series are rebooted with new casts. It happens all the time. Sometimes the results are amazing (JJ Abrahms first Star Trek reboot was incredible)... Sometimes they are disappointing.
I DO NOT share or understand the general negative sentiment regarding the upcoming GB reboot. It's a reboot of a beloved franchise featuring some of THE FUNNIEST PEOPLE ON THE PLANET... Who are also women. They have been leads, and writers, and producers of some of the most successful films of the last decade.
If the Ghostbusters reboot was starring Bill Burr, Louis CK, Seth Rogen, Chris Rock and Jonah Hill I think there MIGHT be some percentage of people saying things like "GB doesn't need a reboot, but hey, these guys are awesome, I'll give it a shot" etc. But that's not what I'm seeing here.
The negativity that surrounds the all female reboot, seems to be based on the fact that it's women. It just comes across as misogyny to me. It's lame. It's all about how "ugly" these women are, or who you would or wouldn't "bang"... Give me a Fu$@ing break. You're on a pinball forum. You (like me!!) are the Nerdiest Nerd in Nerdtown. We shouldn't judge people superficially. Grow the F$&K up!
I'm a big Ghostbusters fan. Loved the first film. It's iconic comedy. It was a perfect storm of sorts. I'm super excited to see the pin.
I'm also genuinely excited for the reboot. It's a reboot of a franchise I love, made by some of the most talented and successful people in Hollywood. They are women. They are awesome.
Welcome to 2016 boys.
Quoted from benheck:Ghostbusters should be the same way. Maybe the tales of the original GB are legend, nobody believes in ghosts anymore, so some women start up a franchise and meet the old team along the way. Maybe all ghosts HAVE been busted, and they're out of a job, but then some new threat shows up and the fat old geezers come out of mothballs to train a new team.
That's definitely what it should have been. I'm reading the Ghostbusters International comic book right now and the story is the OGs have set up franchises in other cities. It's pretty good.
Quoted from benheck:In 20 years we'll be nostalgic for nostalgia = cultural bankruptcy.
Isn't this hobby already there? Now how bout that African Queen....
Quoted from MapleSyrup:I would like to chime in about the anti reboot nonsense.
Reboots happen all the time. Sequels are made. Old movies are remade. Series are rebooted with new casts. It happens all the time. Sometimes the results are amazing (JJ Abrahms first Star Trek reboot was incredible)... Sometimes they are disappointing.
I DO NOT share or understand the general negative sentiment regarding the upcoming GB reboot. It's a reboot of a beloved franchise featuring some of THE FUNNIEST PEOPLE ON THE PLANET... Who are also women. They have been leads, and writers, and producers of some of the most successful films of the last decade.
If the Ghostbusters reboot was starring Bill Burr, Louis CK, Seth Rogen, Chris Rock and Jonah Hill I think there MIGHT be some percentage of people saying things like "GB doesn't need a reboot, but hey, these guys are awesome, I'll give it a shot" etc. But that's not what I'm seeing here.
The negativity that surrounds the all female reboot, seems to be based on the fact that it's women. It just comes across as misogyny to me. It's lame. It's all about how "ugly" these women are, or who you would or wouldn't "bang"... Give me a Fu$@ing break. You're on a pinball forum. You (like me!!) are the Nerdiest Nerd in Nerdtown. We shouldn't judge people superficially. Grow the F$&K up!
I'm a big Ghostbusters fan. Loved the first film. It's iconic comedy. It was a perfect storm of sorts. I'm super excited to see the pin.
I'm also genuinely excited for the reboot. It's a reboot of a franchise I love, made by some of the most talented and successful people in Hollywood. They are women. They are awesome.
Welcome to 2016 boys.
I'll be happy to explain it to you. There are two major points, so I want you to follow along closely, ok?
All right, here we go!
#1 Reboots. Yes, Hollywood has been making reboots since the beginning of their existence. There were several Wizard of Oz movies prior to the 1938 move everyone knows. There was a Ben-Hur movie in 1907 and again in the 20's before the Charlton Heston masterpiece came along. I have no problem introducing a new version of a movie to a new generation. It's been done for years. However, if there was ever a movie that didn't need a reboot, it's Ghostbusters. Why? Because the concept lends itself to expansion and turnover. Hell, even Venkman talked about franchising their business in the first movie. If Sony want to make a new Ghostbusters move, why not pick it up in the same timeline as the original series? Have the business in New York be one of many franchises throughout the country. You can bring in a new, younger cast, and still have some supporting roles for Ackroyd, Murray, and Hudson if they wanted. From there you could make additional movies based in other cites, allowing you to have a more diverse cast. Spread out the universe building like Marvel and DC.
#2 Gender. The Ghostbusters are essentially exterminators. How many female exterminators do you know? Exactly. They are not called the Orkin MAN for nothing. That being said, I think adding a female Ghostbuster to a new cast could be a great decision...is it serves the story. What would make a woman be interested in this line of work? Could make a for a really great character, playing off the boys. Instead of this approach, the whole concept of the new Ghostbusters is to be as gimmicky as possible. Let's have ALL of the Ghostbusters be women! After a few more lines of coke, Paul Feig said... "Yeah! Yeah! And let's make the receptionist a dude! HA!!! Perfect!" It's this kind of stunt casting, role-reversal nonsense that will make this movie suck ball sack.
Oh, and by they way, these particular women are NOT funny. They are really terrible.
Hopefully that clears it up for you!
Quoted from Captain_Kirk:I'll be happy to explain it to you. There are two major points, so I want you to follow along closely, ok?
All right, here we go!
#1 Reboots. Yes, Hollywood has been making reboots since the beginning of their existence. There were several Wizard of Oz movies prior to the 1938 move everyone knows. There was a Ben-Hur movie in 1907 and again in the 20's before the Charlton Heston masterpiece came along. I have no problem introducing a new version of a movie to a new generation. It's been done for years. However, if there was ever a movie that didn't need a reboot, it's Ghostbusters. Why? Because the concept lends itself to expansion and turnover. Hell, even Venkman talked about franchising their business in the first movie. If Sony want to make a new Ghostbusters move, why not pick it up in the same timeline as the original series? Have the business in New York be one of many franchises throughout the country. You can bring in a new, younger cast, and still have some supporting roles for Ackroyd, Murray, and Hudson if they wanted. From there you could make additional movies based in other cites, allowing you to have a more diverse cast. Spread out the universe building like Marvel and DC.
#2 Gender. The Ghostbusters are essentially exterminators. How many female exterminators do you know? Exactly. They are not called the Orkin MAN for nothing. That being said, I think adding a female Ghostbuster to a new cast could be a great decision...is it serves the story. What would make a woman be interested in this line of work? Could make a for a really great character, playing off the boys. Instead of this approach, the whole concept of the new Ghostbusters is to be as gimmicky as possible. Let's have ALL of the Ghostbusters be women! After a few more lines of coke, Paul Feig said... "Yeah! Yeah! And let's make the receptionist a dude! HA!!! Perfect!" It's this kind of stunt casting, role-reversal nonsense that will make this movie suck ball sack.
Oh, and but they way, these particular women are NOT funny. They are really terrible.
Hopefully that clears it up for you!
I lost you at "I'll". 
Quoted from BoozeMarlin:» YouTube video
Thanks for that. The Total Recall reboot is the movie where I was seriously annoyed by lens flares and it looks like the same guy did a vid for that as well. 40 flares in one shot! Madness.
Quoted from dmbjunky:That's definitely what it should have been. I'm reading the Ghostbusters International comic book right now and the story is the OGs have set up franchises in other cities. It's pretty good.
For sure. Hollywood screwed up with the Ghostbusters reboot. I liked one of Dan Ackroyd's ideas of making Ghostbusters 3 a passing of the torch movie to a new group of characters.
Here's how I imagined that idea panning out. This would have blown the current Ghostbusters reboot away.
They could have had the original Ghostbusters in retirement doing whatever while there was no ghost threat. All of the original equipment and the Ecto-1 remain in storage at the firehouse. Egon sadly passed away a few years earlier and the remaining Ghostbusters don't really see each other that often. Then all of a sudden there's a new paranormal threat and some young professors at Columbia University want to take on the ghosts and reach out to the original Ghostbusters. One of the professors was a student of Egons and learned from him how the proton packs and equipment worked. Ray, Peter and Winston meet up with the younger guys at their old headquarters and start dusting off the old equipment and fix up the original Ecto-1. The younger guys eventually get their own Ghostbuster uniforms and take on the main threat at the end of the film only to be nearly beaten until the original Ghostbusters show up and together they save the day.
There, there's the film that everyone I believe would have wanted. Put some actors like Ben Stiller, Channing Tatum, and Jonah Hill as the new Ghostbusters and I think there would have been some great laughs along side the original actors. The new actors could have been all of the actors in the reboot but just include them with the original actors. Personally I think the movie idea above had it been made would crush the new Ghostbusters reboot film in ticket sales and popularity.
Essentially this idea would be similar to Star Wars The Force Awakens in that you are bringing the original actors and new actors together to satisfy fans of the original film and to create new fans. Yes, some of the original actors are in the reboot but they are not playing their characters (Dan Ackroyd is making a cameo as a taxi driver supposedly...) and the original proton pack, car, suit, etc designs have all been redone. Instead of expanding on a film franchise that many of us grew up with and have loved Hollywood is pissing on it by tearing it apart.
The current Ghostbusters reboot film seems to be pissing off fans of the originals more then making them happy.
Quoted from dmbjunky:I've never seen the old Casino Royale so I can't say if it's better but best bond film? No way.
THE-BEST-BOND-MOVIE-EVER
1000x better than the original.
95% on Rotten Tomatoes - the highest rated Bond film.
Quoted from dmbjunky:Most things you say are spot on but Casino Royale is a mediocre Bond movie.
No way! Casino Royale was easily one of the best recent Bond films. Remember, James Bond is a spy. He's all about gathering information while being sneaky and intelligent, he's not a one man military--this is something that has been forgotten through time. Especially if you read the books.
How many female exterminators do I know?
Wait a sec, are you claiming a movie about people chasing around and capturing ghosts lacks realism?
The funny thing about pinside is.. normally I completely miss the people making the ridiculous points because in my scanning I just blur past the stupidity... then I see like 3 pages of people complaining about the stupidity. Stop being trolled people
When you've got no interest in this as a new pinball theme, reboot or otherwise, it's easy to poke fun at.
Especially something this old.
Quoted from mbaumle:No way! Casino Royale was easily one of the best recent Bond films. Remember, James Bond is a spy. He's all about gathering information while being sneaky and intelligent, he's not a one man military--this is something that has been forgotten through time. Especially if you read the books.
James Bond is a spy but how is playing poker something a spy would do. The government gives him 10 million dollars to play poker and he and the villian proceed to get the best hands, ones that nobody who knows how to play poker would fold on. They act like only Bond could decipher Le Chiffre's tells yet their obvious to anyone who bothers looking. That's a few of the problems for me.
It's a decent Bond and I had fun watching it the first time. Saying it's the best Bond isn't saying much since their all over the top nonsense but for me they borrowed too much from Bourne, who had surpassed Bond as the top spy movie. If we're picking best Craig-Bond movies, my pick would be Skyfall but I understand yours and vids opinions. I even gave Vid a thumbs up for his conviction.
Now back to pinball...
Quoted from vid1900:I'd believe a spy would play poker before I would believe they would go out into space.....
I have to admit, Moonraker is a guilty pleasure. Something about trying to desperately bring the franchise into the modern era with microchips and space shuttles is really entertaining. Plus, who doesn't like Jaws?!
Quoted from dmbjunky:James Bond is a spy but how is playing poker something a spy would do.
Now that you mention it, it is pretty ridiculous, but there's something classy about it. Bond is the definition of class.
Quoted from dmbjunky:Now back to pinball...
Uhhhhhhhh..... Goldeneye Pinball!! (I have to admit, the ball save and radio dish magnets on that game were pretty wicked).
Quoted from mbaumle:.... Goldeneye Pinball!! (I have to admit, the ball save and radio dish magnets on that game were pretty wicked).
Well played.
Quoted from Captain_Kirk:I'll be happy to explain it to you. There are two major points, so I want you to follow along closely, ok?
All right, here we go!
#1 Reboots. Yes, Hollywood has been making reboots since the beginning of their existence. There were several Wizard of Oz movies prior to the 1938 move everyone knows. There was a Ben-Hur movie in 1907 and again in the 20's before the Charlton Heston masterpiece came along. I have no problem introducing a new version of a movie to a new generation. It's been done for years. However, if there was ever a movie that didn't need a reboot, it's Ghostbusters. Why? Because the concept lends itself to expansion and turnover. Hell, even Venkman talked about franchising their business in the first movie. If Sony want to make a new Ghostbusters move, why not pick it up in the same timeline as the original series? Have the business in New York be one of many franchises throughout the country. You can bring in a new, younger cast, and still have some supporting roles for Ackroyd, Murray, and Hudson if they wanted. From there you could make additional movies based in other cites, allowing you to have a more diverse cast. Spread out the universe building like Marvel and DC.
#2 Gender. The Ghostbusters are essentially exterminators. How many female exterminators do you know? Exactly. They are not called the Orkin MAN for nothing. That being said, I think adding a female Ghostbuster to a new cast could be a great decision...is it serves the story. What would make a woman be interested in this line of work? Could make a for a really great character, playing off the boys. Instead of this approach, the whole concept of the new Ghostbusters is to be as gimmicky as possible. Let's have ALL of the Ghostbusters be women! After a few more lines of coke, Paul Feig said... "Yeah! Yeah! And let's make the receptionist a dude! HA!!! Perfect!" It's this kind of stunt casting, role-reversal nonsense that will make this movie suck ball sack.
Oh, and but they way, these particular women are NOT funny. They are really terrible.
Hopefully that clears it up for you!
captain kirk only banged the hottest chicks, what do you expect? the new ghostbusters are fugly!
Quoted from vid1900:ORKIN_Woman_1_(resized).jpg
that's racist, only a black woman would be an exterminator? .......just kidding btw but that's how things get over blown
back to gb
Quoted from vid1900:Indeed, Skyfall is an excellent movie!
Isn't Skyfall the one where Bond basically rapes the girl in the shower?
Quoted from Mudflaps:At this point, I think we've seen as much as we can see. We've speculated as much as we can speculate.
Sounds like the reveal will be at TPF, so fingers crossed we'll see an awesome game.
But we can still make shit up, amirite?!?
I hear the LE will ship with a 13" CRT 
Quoted from Erik:But we can still make shit up, amirite?!?
I hear the LE will ship with a 13" CRT
Fine. Let's make shit up. LE will feature a Slimer that legit emerges from the backglass to blow you, similar to GB 1:
Quoted from MapleSyrup:I'm not labelling the guys who loved the original as women haters. I'm labelling the Neanderthals whose only basis for this film sucking is the fact that it features women.
I agree with you 100%. The reboots you mentioned sucked. I'm also wary when something I really appreciate is repackaged or remade for a new audience... It RARELY works. It's especially hard on people with great fondness or attachment to the original.
This reboot MAY suck. It may have been a bad idea. Neither of those things are immediately true because the main cast is all female.
It's not sanctimonious to point out misogyny, or racism, or homophobia when you see it. That's what I'm seeing, and I think it sucks.
If you want to downvoted me for calling bullshit, that's fine. I was just getting tired of the many times that sentiment was issued here.
What have we seen of the new film? Some teaser posters? Is there a clip? You're sure it's a bad idea, and it's going to suck? Maybe it will. I'm not sure why you're so sure!
Sorry to steer the thread off topic. It was just bumming me out. I'd like to discuss pinball without tolerating in undercurrent of general nastiness.
So, returning to pinball...
GB looks pretty awesome so far. I hope Trudeau has a hit with this one. I loved the Mustang layout, but he really took a beating on WWE. He's a legend, and I'd like to see him have a huge game.
The problem isn't female Ghosbusters. The problem is ALL of them are female. I belong to a rather large Ghostbuster community. We have both male and female members. I don't understand the logic behind not featuring a mixed cast. Then again Sony hasn't done anything right since the original Spiderman. Chris Hemsworth as a secretary? If that doesn't slap you across the face as a cheap way to get women into the theater seats, then there is something wrong with you. I'm sure he'll be the recipient of a few inappropriate remarks and flirty eyes because it's OK the be sexist as long as its towards a guy.
Mellisa McCarthy is not funny. I'm willing to bet she falls down more than once but less than 4 times in the movie because hey, heavy people falling is funny right? HAHAH, oh comedy you rascal ! This movie will not be good. I can 100% guarantee this new movie will be a failure because they have no idea what makes Ghostbusters one of the best movies of all time. They should have just went with Max Landis's script and called it a day. Look it up if you are in the mood for a read it was everything this movie should have been.
Anyways rant over. So stoked to see the final product !
Quoted from ArcadiusMaximus:heavy people falling is funny right? HAHAH, oh comedy you rasca
worked for chris farley
http://www.hulu.com/watch/4183
Quoted from toyotaboy:worked for chris farley
http://www.hulu.com/watch/4183
Funny because that's exactly who Melissa McCarthy thinks she is.
Quoted from ArcadiusMaximus:. I belong to a rather large Ghostbuster community.
Omg.
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