Distributors are asking for money BEFORE video of the magna slings is released, so that way they have your money if they turn out horrid.

That conspiracy theory doesn't make sense, the LE will sell out regardless.

Nah if gameplay was released and it looked terrible people would bail for sure... This happened with some other LEs in the past. But it would have to be pretty bad

I'll bet someone $1,000 right now, no BS, that a single LE will not ship in April.

Not taking that bet

By the way has anyone with a pro been asked for payment , and if so when were they told it would ship?

If not then I would really question the LE payments !

My disti says that they ask full payment when it arrives. Which is normal.

To your point You can get a kiss le pretty easily. And I been saying all along. No way le is shipped this month. No way Jose

I feel ya bro.

Those goddamn bastards at Stern!

It's too bad that people aren't allowed to WAIT and decide to buy a game until AFTER THEY'VE PLAYED ONE to make sure it's everything they'd hoped it would be. Think how nice it would be to WAIT if the software is shit... and not have to BEG for updates after Stern has all your money.

It's complete bullshit that we are FORCED to make buying decisions sight unseen.

bastards....

This is coming from someone who has never had anything good to say about stern. I did not order a GBLE but I played the pro at the TPF an I wish I had. The game plays as good as it looks. People paid the idiot J poop how much money for a magic girl and got hosed, here is a game that looks just as cool and plays as good as it looks.

We'll never now how the final game would have played, but the art on Magic Girl is a hunded times better. The playfield looks more like a collaborated canvas with space left for some central artwork and not an effort to squeeze some tiny art pieces between all the inserts like the GB.

Both are great works of ZY for what they are but I like when the artwork has some more room to breathe.

But in that regard the cabinet artwork of GB compensates that for me.

(Btw. can you buy the Magic Girl Backglass somewhere?)

I understand but I can buy a GB that doesn't cost 18000 and actually works and the warranty isn't voided inlet someone else play it beside me, joking.

I hear Lonnie has taken over the code development on GB.

Could not disagree more....

Magic Girl looked like someone tried to put a whole pounder bag of skittles in their mouth and then coughed them onto the playfield.

The PF artwork (by itself, with the machine turned off) was nice, but the combination of the pf art and the light show was nauseating. I thought ZY' stuff was solid, but the integration into that machine was horrible.

I think GB is far and away a better TOTAL package.

If this is true, an LE will now be available.

I don't think anyone has ever claimed that anyone is forced to buy anything. The point is that this is 2016 and sharing video of a product couldn't be easier or cheaper. They're making a big fuss about this game, but withholding many important details. Yes... because of that many of us will wait. Don't be so dramatic with your straw man argument about us claiming we're being forced. No one said that. The point is that if we don't want to wait a long time for everything to shake out, we'd need a reasonable demo. That's super easy to do for stern, but they just don't do it. Maybe they figure it's better for them to sell the first batch sight unseen as people may well respond negatively and it could hurt their initial sales. The whole "they give us more now than they used to" argument is also ridiculous. Stern has clearly existed too long without any considerable competition, because this wouldn't fly in most industries.

Half of the people in this thread are stuck on the topic of how soon they can get their machine, and let's not pretend that stern itself isn't making a big push on this game, so waiting months or years isn't an ideal situation for anyone, and it's really not necessary. There's no reason why stern couldn't upload premium/le gameplay footage today. I don't get why some people here think it's crazy to expect a company that wants you to buy their product now, to the point that they are advertising it and taking orders, to give an actual demonstration and clear up all of the outstanding questions. No customers in my field would ever put up with this level of ambiguity. I guess the gamble of not knowing exactly what you're paying for is part of the appeal for some people. I'm certainly waiting to get all the details before I order, but it's ridiculous that the details are so elusive for a product this close to release.

Yeah. I just,... man... that last interview with Jpop and that he asked Stern to help him out but they wouldn't do it for totally free and that isn't how it works in his company (present tense although his company allready wasn't anymore by that time). We ALL could have gotten a Magic Girl from Stern. *sniff* (And the guys who paid upfront get a Special LE Version or somewhat.)

Mastermind.... -_-;

But yeah, he "found" Jeremy so: Yeah! Hand drawn Art is finally back to pinball in a big way and I love it. Definately getting GB NIB (never even dreamt of buying a Stern in any condition before) and hope ZY will have some more freedom for the Projects to come.

And I still don't give up hope for Magic Girl. I JPops company is bancrupt, maybe Stern buys the rights to the 3/4 finished pin for peanuts.

Premium in June I believe

I only spoke of the playfield design not the lightshow and beyond, because the pin wasn't finished anyway.

With the rest you are just plainly wrong when referring to the skittles analogy. The GB is the one that is bursting with color and tiny bits spread over the playfield, while the MG has a reduced color palette. The MG at least starts with a central piece of artwork (the girl, some magic chest and the title) wich -in my opinion- looks nicer (and objectively is a nicer composition or "a" composition at all) compared to the 4 Ghostbusters (wich are the main theme) spread over the whole playfield, partly covered by ramps and stuff and only shown from behind.

Edit:
And I don't say any of them is better. They're just different and propably have been done under vastly different circumstances.

It would of been nice if the premium had both the conventional slings and the magnets then the operator could decide which to use. I am sure room underneath the game probably prohibits this....

Hey buddy. Take it easy. This is Pinside you know...we don't there kindly to them "logic talk" 'round here....

*nudge nudge* he was being sarcastic, man.

His whole point of his post is that no one forced anyone to pay for anything. If you/we/I are frustrated and impatient, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

Now back to magnaslings...

I dont care!

I'll get the pro anyway because I like the cab artwork best, don't wanna wait,... and i'm poor. (Well, as 'poor' as someone buying a 6000$ toy can be called.)

Obviously it was sarcastic, but the implication is that people were making that argument, which is ridiculous.

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LE's shipping before Pro's...woohoo! Bout time they got their sh*t together. Can't wait

And another one here.

F that. I will scream bloody murder if the code turns into a shit show.

I know Jared is reading this. Pass it on

Stop making shit up

Let me know I will take over either spot

Joined this website a little while back. I've notice people complain a bit here, no?

Pinside is basically a pinball enthusiast version of The View, minus the menopause and Whoopi Goldberg

More like Jerry Springer, when there's a bunch of racists on stage and a studio audience full of minorities.

Yeah, rather interesting. People like to complain about something they don't have. The LE in this machine is going to be the #1 game ever. People griping about the magnetic slings is laughable. LE's will be bringing $10k+ very shortly. This machine is a work of art that will make any game room pop.

Okey-Dokey there Mr. Rose-colored glasses.

I am just wondering who the midget is here on Pinside though?

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After what Lonnie did to Star Trek and KISS...I really don't want to go through that again.

You're not that far off.

Whoopi Goldberg and I have the same birthday.

Just paid off my LE to very large distributor, told me 2 weeks, so lets hope all these 2 week notices are correct.

Can't work out if you're a troll, a fanboy, or just very excited, but at least your message is consistent:

We can argue the merits of slings, ramps, and who is doing the code on Ghostbusters, but can't we all just agree that Data East's Simpsons is a terrible game? sorry, backhanded comments are contagious on this thread.

ANYWAY,
I have a Pro on order. I can promise no matter how things turn out, I will be grateful to have one in my home and have pinball in my life. Stern will not allow this title to fail. They have recently expanded and are looking to the future.

Agreed I think MG looks like a kid threw up his Halloween candy all over it. Theme, art on gb is better.

Custom art by Matt Groening, game specific callouts from the original actors, longest ramp I've ever seen?

Nope - we won't even be able to agree on that one!

Touche, sir.

since when are slings have to be a standard feature on pinball? Yes slings have become a staple, but honestly, it needs to start being changed up. If these slings do something different and completely change the way slings act, i'm all for it. Yes they are still in the same spot and angle. but baby steps. If they turn out to act like normal slings. Well there goes wishful thinking of something refreshing and new.

In the meantime, while you are all debating "slings" , me, i am whistling of happiness every day cause i have a GBLE ON ORDER BITCHES!! WOOHOO!!
(Kidding,i love u all,just really excited 'bout my gble.)

Figuratively? There's this guy sleeping in TMNT sheets...

Did you not see Metallica or Kiss? Both have really good hand drawn art. Stern has been doing this for awhile now.

Played the pro at a release party in St. Augustine yesterday. From what I could see, the pro looks loaded. I'm typically a premium/LE guy, and I'd consider the pro in this case.

I haven't hit many shows/events in the last 2 years based on my life outside of pinball, so I got to play the following titles: hobbit, kiss, GOT, and GB. I enjoyed GB the most, just casually playing without any knowledge of rules. GB was by far the better looking machine (hobbit was nice as well), which as a collector is important for me.

Anyway, thought I'd share my thoughts. Congrats to the folks waiting on a GB. I think you'll be happy with it.

He bought one so of course it's 10K :p