Exactly like Pin2K. The confusion here baffles me.

The image from the monitor in Pin2k doesn't hover above the glass, or appear in the plane of the glass. It appears below the glass.

The only question mark I have about the hologram is how well will it show up in well lit areas. I would assume the lower the ambient light the better.

The only way the Ecto goggles makes sense to me is.... The LCD is under the ecto goggles sign there projecting the image on the glass disc. The space the LCD is away from the disc is what makes the image to your eye look the same distance below the disc in the reflection. So therefor you wont see the ghost anywhere except looking through the glass disc and it will appear to be hovering below your glass (like the glass is the goggle that lets you see the ghost) This is how the peppers ghost effect always works. Same in RFM or even at Disney world.

Nice illustration! I added to it to make it even clearer as to what folks will be seeing.

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There were reportedly 23 or so failures out of 300,000 attempts with the subway ramp. Not buying! I like my $7k- $8k games with just two plastic ramps that return directly to the flippers for maximum speed and no new unique and risky interactive toys / features. I much rather have a giant stationary bash toy on the playfield then any of these so called interactive toys on GB premium.

Also, please replace Ernie Hudson custom callouts with ones by the random voice actor that did The Walking Dead callouts.

Insert sarcasm

Ok, forgive me for being stupid here and if this is already obvious but it looks to me like there is nothing in the ring but that there is a square sheet of glass that you can barely see mounted behind it just above the PF. The black doorway apparatus projects the image down on that sheet of glass

Thats funny I just updated the drawing to reflect that. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/official-stern-ghostbusters-speculation-thread/page/195#post-3092018 . Thanks !

Haha, nice! Only thing I would still change would be the line saying Ghost animation. People may end up thinking that the animation is to appear in that area. Still very helpful though for those not quite understanding it!

Wait. I'm confused.
There's no more Pac-Man ghost to capture through the ecto goggles lane but instead we have to catch the ghost of Pepper from Burgertime?

(J/K...I owned a SWE1 and fully understand what stern is doing and appreciate the creativity.)

Because people are lazy.. people stopped trying to correct people long ago. When people see projections on transparent mylar screens (like the famous concert where they projected tupak, or the stunts CNN pulls on their stage) people call them holograms too.. but they are nothing of the sort. Due to our society's laziness... hologram is now being used to label any life-like visualization where the display technology isn't seen.

It's like trying to correct grammar.. just pissing in the wind

Nice graphic. Key word... 'perceived' location

The quality of the effect depends on how your brain tries to 'fix' what you see as manipulated by the implementation.

It will be interesting to see if they rely on darkening the area when its in use, etc.. and the intensity of the image itself.

I look forward to its use in the game.. I just know it's going to be another toy.. not the holy grail

How many pairs of goggles are included with the game?

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If Microsoft can name an entire new product Hololens, Stern can name a dollar sized image a hologram - MARKETING!!!!

So far from this thread I've learned magnets give you cancer and Gary Stern's laughing face will be revealed by playfield wear around the new slings within 3 months of owning an LE even if you don't play it. Ecto Goggles only work with prismatic laminated play field glass synced to 90hz shutter glasses while standing on a stool at an angle of 49.75 degrees above the game - only then will the 5ft high floating dingo ghost come out of the machine and eat your babies.

FFS, the amount of shit-waffling in this thread is beyond comprehension.

So ze goggles, ze do nothing for you?

Nooooothing !

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I don't count action figures as a pinball toy...I'd explain my point of view on it, but I don't think a month away is going to change 4 years of knowing everything.

Not really...I get the jist of it, but a .5" little hologram (EDIT: or whatever the hell it is) probably isn't going to blow my mind. It could though. Probably be washed out by LEDs

That's crazy talk.

Thanks for all the clarification on the Ecto Goggles feature. I really thought Stern was going to include a real class 5 roaming vapor in the Premium machines, and not some projected animation. Damnit... cancelling order!

Ha! Yes ok, I'll retract that one. It's actually black oujia magic and I'm looking forward to it.

Im pretty sure it's Pepper Potts from IM, but you can only see her if you wear the ecto goggles while playing. Here is an image of the prototype I think.

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As long as he doesn't get any human fecal matter on my machine I am all good ! hahah

Seriously, we are all delusional at this point waiting for our GB's to show up.

Topics of discussion:

1) Which version is better, uglier, or they don't like
2) Mag Slings
3) Mag Slings
4) Ecto Goggles
5) Mag Slings
6) Zombie Yeti farting inside machines

Slimer is the thing that worries me the most, but I haven't seen it work in person so I'm not overly worried. I just looks like a part that would be prone to problems, and it doesn't look that great in pics. But I haven't heard a shit ton of issues with it so maybe it's good to go.
What's the Prem do over pro...moving more locations?

How about explain it instead of insulting me. You called it a child's toy. I gave an example of things that are child's toys. I'm not sure I've ever seen a Pepper's Ghost toy for kids...maybe it exists, please let me know.

From what I understand he hovers over the City on the pops...then when he "floats" down, he can move to different locations. Not sure how many places he can move to, though...from different sources I've heard "2" and "4". On the Pro he just has a simple up/down movement.

May be the best topper for Ghostbusters Pinball. Signed by Dan Aykroyd @ Stern Pinball "Where is the pin"

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I'm not insulting you, I'm just commenting on the way you've acted for years.

http://www.amazon.com/Hallmark-Halloween-HGN5022-Genevieve-Ruffles/dp/B008MYT674

There's a pepper's ghost for kids? Not enough? usually isn't.

Thanks, haven't really seen it yet...waiting till this bad boy gets delivered.

Can someone re-post the new picture of the Pro ramp ? It was posted around the time of the TPF and showed it out of the game. Might even be in a different thread. Anyway, there looks to be a mini-magnet on the Pro ramp just below the intersection of the right entrance to divert the ball into the ramp drop area to land in the storage facility scoop and score the "virtual lock".

worked great on the pro, going up/down. THe prem/le it will do that plus side to side. I almost thought he'd break in half from ball hits, but seems solid. Some light shots don't register, but most solid shots did at mgc. Should be awesome. I always tried to hit him but he'd be up when he was moving up/down on the pro.

I don't have the picture but that is correct. The ball lock is a magnet that sends the ball in to the back of the storage facility saucer for a virtual lock.

and how will he looks like after a 1000 hits.

I assume the GB's that were at MGC w/ marco were the ones from TPF? Looked brand new..... even after the weekend. I suppose they got over 1k plays a day as the line NEVER ended and it was played before opening and after.

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How on earth could a game be played 1,000 times in one day? Even at 1 min games, that would take almost 17 hours. Haha

Slimer is made of a vinyl/foam like material I suspect he will hold up well.

I think this has been changed to a divertor the push's the ball to the storage facilty.

Seems like a good idea.

I'm glad the Slimer toy moves in multiple directions on the premium as those are the types of interactive toys I expect on a pinball machine that cost nearly $7k. The gumball machine on my TZ works fine after 20+ years so I'm certainly not worried about the moving Slimer toy breaking. Bring it on!

opps my bad. I think I heard some peoples games had 900 a weekend... :-p so 1000 in a weekend, possible hahhahaha....I'm a space case today.

I don't think he goes up and down, just side to side, I don't think he will come in contact with the ball at all.

I played the Pro at PAPA & can say for a fact that Slimer does indeed come in contact with the ball. Prem/LE Slimer will probably be similar with the added functionality of Slimer moving to 4 different shot positions.

Definitely looks like the ball is hitting him on all the gameplay video out there....

There is a pivot on the slimed arm on the pro. There is no pivot on the LE

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My HP 11C calculator has been working problem free for the last 35 years, so I'm not worried about the Slimer toy breaking either...

What are you trying to say? So the LE has a complicated mechanic under the PF allowing up/down (=forward/backward) and sideways movement (rotation) of the complete supporting arm while the Pro just has a simple pivoting mechanic. I don't think that's news.

He is supposed to block shots.... He gets hit on the pro, not sure why he wouldn't on the prem/le.

Says he is interactive on the flyer and matrix. For both pro and le/prem

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He gets hit.

He also doesn't exactly block shots. I liked how more than half of the shots to him continued on through where ever he was. That was one of the reasons that I feel the Pro might be the game for me - his moving side to side is less interesting to me if he doesn't block shots, but his movement up and down on the Pro (Which I assume will be the same on the Premium) was the real winner. I don't know if he needs to move side to side for me to be happy, his up and down is great.