Wait, isn't the whole point of slingshots their predictability of the ball physics for a skilled player? If you introduce random behavior in this, then suddenly pinball is a game of chance, not skill.
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One thing I noticed were the "no ghost" inserts on all the shots. Maybe they will program a mode where making a shot not for he mode hurts you!
I think some more negative rules will help long term playability. Like RZ has.
Can't wait to see in person!
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Quoted from pinmister:This will be such an awesome feature. The unpredictability of the ball jetting around will really keep people on their toes and really change the dynamic of slings. What a great idea to incorporate the ghost in the slings by having them interact with the player-should be fun.
How bout when the ball is going STM and a ghost/magnet drags it back?
Quoted from aerobert:Wait, isn't the whole point of slingshots their predictability of the ball physics for a skilled player? If you introduce random behavior in this, then suddenly pinball is a game of chance, not skill.
The point of slingshots is not predictability.
Quoted from Captain_Kirk:The point of slingshots is not predictability.
Yes, I've have a slingshot bounce a ball into the opposite out lain on many occasions.
The flippers are predictable but the slings not so much.
Quoted from Captain_Kirk:The point of slingshots is not predictability.
No not really, but after maaaany hours put into a machine, one learns how to handle the speed, the angles, the bounces and predict the trajectory and use it to your advantage. Will you be able to do it with magnetic slings also? Just brainstorming here.
Magnets, Spinning Disc, Poppers, Sling-Shots, Bounce-Back diverters, Moving Targets, Etc. all make the game unpredictable and a game of chance. Players just need to learn strategies to conquer those features and integrate into gameplay.
Quoted from aerobert:No not really, but after maaaany hours put into a machine, one learns how to handle the speed, the angles, the bounces and predict the trajectory and use it to your advantage. Will you be able to do it with magnetic slings also? Just brainstorming here.
This is a different kind of game. I'm glad for some original thinking.
Think of Addams Family. Does "The Power" magnets make it unplayable?
Quoted from Captain_Kirk:This is a different kind of game. I'm glad for some original thinking.
Think of Addams Family. Does "The Power" magnets make it unplayable?
It doesn't make it unplayable but the magnets in TAF are also predictable.
The magnet slings are what I am most interested in seeing as it is unlike anything we have seen before in pinball, being that close to the flippers could make for some really wild ball motion. While there is randomness to pinball there is also an element of control, wether perceived or real, that helps make a game enjoyable. After playing some epic games of WOZ only to lose a ball or 2 from the witch magnets I sometimes have to just walk away smh.
It really sounds like the slings could be an incredibly special feature, but it could also be one of the most frustrating features implemented in a pinball machine if it causes cheap drain after drain. Magnet slings with Trudeau gapped flippers could make for some really brutal games.
That said, there is a lot of amazing stuff packed into the frame of a regular body pin.
Quoted from aerobert:Wait, isn't the whole point of slingshots their predictability of the ball physics for a skilled player? If you introduce random behavior in this, then suddenly pinball is a game of chance, not skill.
predictable slingshots??? that's an oxymoron...
Pinball always has random in it.. the key is the balance of it.
Nidderau
Quoted from lamihh:Will we see those mysterious magnet-o-slings in the stream 2morrow or are they "just" playing the pro Version? Does anyone Know? @tpf there Will be pros only..
They'll only be playing the Pro version on the stream tomorrow, so no magnetic sling footage unfortunately.
Quoted from aerobert:Wait, isn't the whole point of slingshots their predictability of the ball physics for a skilled player? If you introduce random behavior in this, then suddenly pinball is a game of chance, not skill.
I am not sure what pinball machines you are playing, but I have never played one that has predictable slings unless they are broken and not firing, or they are static slings.
Stern should do a quick video like they did for GOT upper PF, for the sling magnets as well as the goggle ghost and subway ramp.
Quoted from 3pinballs:what are gapped flippers
The gap between the flippers is a little wider then standard flipper. I think. 
I think if they can somewhat replicate a normal sling and then change it for certain modes/features it will be great. While not "predicatbale" they do generally fire in a certain direction based on where on the sling you hit.
I wish we could have seen where the dog cad pic was going to go... Looked like it had moving parts too
Quoted from lllvjr:I wish we could have seen where the dog cad pic was going to go... Looked like it had moving parts too
Is it maybe one of the animations for the ecto goggles?
Quoted from lllvjr:I wish we could have seen where the dog cad pic was going to go... Looked like it had moving parts too
It will likely be for the Ecto Goggles hologram/peppers ghost image, or degraded to DMD dots
The slings kind of worry me.
They're a big unknown. An Addams Family-like "The Power" would've been fine.
I just don't know if it's needed. Sight unseen, I'd like regular slings on the LE I have ordered.
Quoted from Mando:Yea but not sure they would use CAD for that?
I think the Ecto goggles will look like a 3D hologram, not just a floating 2D screen, so having a 3D model probably adds to that depth.
That's my guess at least!
Quoted from 320Gigabytes:I think the Ecto goggles will look like a 3D hologram, not just a floating 2D screen, so having a 3D model probably adds to that depth.
That's my guess at least!
think Pin2k images... because that's basically what it is.
Quoted from Pinzzz:"Ghostbusters" first rating on pinside is from......
For those of us who understand and appreciate Centerflank's humor, that's hysterical.
Quoted from lllvjr:In the video the rear legs and butt moved up and down and switched from front to side view... I would say I'm 90% sure it was mechanical that didn't make the cut
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I'm thinking it's just a Ecto Glasses hologram.
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Best post ever!!!
I tell you what, I watch GB1 & 2 this weekend for old times sake. GB1 has to be one of the best movies ever, GB2 not so much LOL 
Ghostbusters The Video Game is awesome though.
Lots of bugs, but the script and gameplay is great. Written by Ramis and Aykroyd.
Quoted from lllvjr:In the video the rear legs and butt moved up and down and switched from front to side view... I would say I'm 90% sure it was mechanical that didn't make the cut
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It would be a weird choice on their part to highlight something so significant that wasn't going to be making it into the final game. Having said that, if it is for the ecto-goggles, that seems like a lot of detail for a 2 inch hologram. . .
That's probably a 3D model used to make custom dmd animations.
They did the same thing with Gene in Kiss and some of the dragon shots in GOT.
Quoted from CobraClutch:It would be a weird choice on their part to highlight something so significant that wasn't going to be making it into the final game. Having said that, if it is for the ecto-goggles, that seems like a lot of detail for a 2 inch hologram. . .
I also think it is for the hologram. You can see the Ecto Goggle disc outlined underneath it.
Quoted from Jean-Luc-Picard:Who posts an image of trypophobia after a person explains he suffers from trypophobia. MY GOD!!! have people no fucking respect.
Heh, why admit on a forum you have some wacky phobia? Of COURSE someone will come along and post a photo of what you're afraid of. That's how forums work. 
Most of those images seen by googling trypophobia are just lotus flowers photoshopped on to stuff anyway.
Quoted from chuckwurt:I also think it is for the hologram. You can see the Ecto Google disc outlined underneath it.
Good call on the disk outline. Missed that
That isnt CAD, that's a rigged model inside Maya . Unlike cad, it's not made for accuracy but for animation/ VFX . That's 1000% for the dmd or octoglasses
Edmonton, AB
Quoted from PoMC:Heh, why admit on a forum you have some wacky phobia? Of COURSE someone will come along and post a photo of what you're afraid of. That's how forums work.
I have a phobia of large breasts...
I wonder if the magnets could have a mode or something were it helps you.
Like it grabs it and stalls the ball just to drop it to your flipper. I guess it matters where the magnet is placed.
but I'm really excited to play this game.
Quoted from Apollyon:I have a phobia of large breasts...
What's that you say???
You WANT Elvira 3 to be made ASAP?
10-4 good buddy!
Quoted from timtim:I wonder if the magnets could have a mode or something were it helps you.
Like it grabs it and stalls the ball just to drop it to your flipper. I guess it matters where the magnet is placed.
but I'm really excited to play this game.
He said it does this in the podcast.
Quoted from PoMC:Heh, why admit on a forum you have some wacky phobia? Of COURSE someone will come along and post a photo of what you're afraid of. That's how forums work.
Most of those images seen by googling trypophobia are just lotus flowers photoshopped on to stuff anyway.
I think he may have left?
Quoted from lllvjr:In the video the rear legs and butt moved up and down and switched from front to side view... I would say I'm 90% sure it was mechanical that didn't make the cut
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They were just playing with the model to be silly in the video, that is all. Listen to the music played when they show that segment.
There is no way they would make that into an actual toy. I would be cool but not going to happen.
Quoted from Mando:He said it does this in the podcast.
He also said they could play "keep away" where they could bounce the ball from one sling to another. If they coupled that with some cool audio of the ghosts taunting you that could be a cool effect.
The plastics above the sling show ghosts holding balls so I think the vibe they are going for is that the slings are haunted and controlled by ghosts. Sometimes the ghosts help you by holding ball and deopping it to your flipper and sometimes to mess with you. I'm looking forward to see they actually play.
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