Can someone confirm the box dimensions for me?

"Pretty sure" and "are" are two different things Mr. LTG. It is important since I am determining what little passengers I can bring with me.

Thanks LTG. Welp I guess if it doesn't fit the kids can go home on the roof

I didn't want to trouble those guys with responding to a box size. I am sure their time is better spent taking care of something more important so I figured Id just ask here and someone would know off hand. I do have a few inches to spare but it the difference of having to remove seats if those measurements are off. Thanks LTG I appreciate it.

I had no idea there was a wiki devoted to fitting a pinball in various vehicles.

Yes I figured as much rosh, thank you sir.

Thank you everyone I appreciate the response. I am pretty excited to pick up this machine, this will by my first AP.

This is a really great game. It is still very fresh for me but here are a few things.

The build quality as many stated is very nice. Solid cabinet using all good materials. Cabinet protectors behind the legs. The pixel quality of the decals is great and the colors are vibrant. Back glass looks great. I love the artwork on the entire game. If I had to nit pick, I would like to see more cable supports under the playfield. Most of the harness is supported by means of all the cables tied together. The decals wrap the cabinet and while this is a nice look I can see wrinkling happening at the corners (two separate planes meeting). The leg bolts I scrapped, I like the different bolt type (something new) but the plain steel socket head cap screw is kind of crappy. Not a big deal, I slapped some standard leg bolts in there.

I am still very fresh on the gameplay but it is a blast to play. Its hilarious and I love that quality about it. The shots are a little tighter than I am used to but I am learning the shots well with maybe the forward kickback being the exception. That shot being not much wider than the ball itself requires dead accuracy. I do have the occasional air ball off the targets but I am sure this can be solved with different foam backing (as many have suggested). The ramp shot was nuts with air balls at first thought it did seam to calm down after a bunch of games. It is possible it was cleaned with something very slippery. I do still get a wild ball launch off of the ramp once in a while. I think maybe a cover would have been nice here. I am looking into adding something but there isn't many options for mounting (without drilling holes in the ramp).

No physical ball lock on this and even though I like a lock I do not miss it. The game plays a progresses seamlessly without one. It really made me think about the concept of a ball lock (sometimes I think too much lol). Last game I had without one was Party Zone. The rules are great, there are several directions to go in and things to work towards in any order. It has that open playground feel. I know every game progresses in a direction but too much funneling to one path or direction takes away from a game so I'd imagine this is a delicate balance. I think Hot Wheel did well here.

All in all this game rips when you are hitting shots. Well done to the American Pinball team and all involved, you did a great job.

I am wondering if the LEDs getting stuck on one color is related to the connectors. Mine was getting worse and worse so I decided to check the connectors and found almost every black colored LED board connector (address/power etc.) partially seated. When I get a game I go over every single connector in the game, check all points for shorting etc. so I know they were fully seated. It might be that since there are no harness supports, essentially the entire harness is hanging from every connector, they could be vibrating loose especially since they are not locking connectors. For those having trouble, I would suggest looking over these connectors making sure they are fully seated. After I corrected mine, so far no stuck LEDs. Could be a coincidence, I wont know for a little while but it is awfully suspicious and a partially seated plug is definitely no good. I think if AP doesn't provide any harness supports I may just pick a few up and add some in key places to get more of an upward pressure on the plugs instead of pulling away downward. For now clipping some wire ties will take a little stress off of them.

No luck, still getting a color stuck on the lighting. Hopefully they work this out, its a real bummer. I love this game though. I like the layout, the animations, the light shows, the rules are fun. I like the opaque inserts.

Is anyone else getting the occasional wild ball launch off the orange ramp? I am at 6.2 degrees.

No Lock-ups for me but I am not running the latest code yet. I am still two updates behind but I should be updating today.

What fan did this end up being for you? Mine is also making that "fan is about to crap out" noise. I am almost certain mine is coming from the power supply in the lower cabinet.

Thanks Rockford, will do. Admittedly I already opened the case to investigate. I really did think the sticker on top was meant to "not remove" until I saw the void sticker. I am the type to investigate.

Need to add an audio when adding players..., a sound and some random vocals.

For those people having issues with your leds getting stuck on a color. Take a close look at all of your cabling from the main led boards and to the smaller linked satellite boards. I found two pins not fully seated into their plug. This was on the wider black colored plugs that link the main led boards to the smaller satellite boards. What I would do is remove these plugs from the board and gently (gently) give each wire a little tug. They should not pull right out of the connector. If they do, push them back in and see if they will lock into the plug.

Mr. Outlane, did you ever get your game crashing issue sorted out?

Has anyone figured out a fix for the airballs? I have done the suggested replacement of the foam backing to the softer gray colored foam. I still get way too many crazy airballs and I am not sure changing out the foam made any difference. I am one notch lower from factory flipper strength setting. Maybe someone can explain why this is happening. I am usually pretty good at figuring out stuff but this one I just can’t see. Could it be the stickers on the targets. What about these targets is different from any other game?

Actually I was at 23....two notches below factory. I lowered it to 22 and it seems better. The ramp can still be back flipped so...pretty good. I’d still like to know why these targets produce airballs..

Damn snakes........LOL

Those things....they just keep getting out. Round up two, one gets out. Hilarious....probably the hardest of the creature battles.

Yea, same here. I have no idea. I am at very close to 6.5 degrees, probably a little under I think it was. My target stickers are getting beat to hell. The targets themselves seem to be holding up fine. The playfield has a lot of ball dents but so does my Dialed In. My plan is to play these playfields to death. Then either hang them on the wall or throw them in the trash when I get a new one some day (hopefully). I get the same though once in a while, wild ball launch right over the flipper. I am waiting for the glass to shatter, only then will I consider it an Epic game lol. In all seriousness maybe someone will figure something out. Not that it is a solution but the factory flipper setting is too high, but it does help to lower it.

What happens when it crashes? Is it just a reset back to square one, or does it just lock up in some random state? Maybe you have intermittent power to your motherboard or some other related component? I would look closely at all the cabling if you have not already. It is at least something you can do while you wait to capture the logs and send them out.

I will take another reading, see where I am at and dial it down. Maybe it is just a little too much.

Yea its just a slice of wood with a lot of stuff hanging from the bottom. All playfields are like this. What I do is make sure I never exceed 6.5 (or whatever pitch I am shooting for) in any given spot. Even if that means another area is a little less pitched.

So I have this theory. It looks like when I get a wild airballl, it looks like what is happening is a ball is reflecting off of the RPM targets and actually becoming airborne off of the car standup target to the immediate right. I swear I caught this happening, it happens so fast though.....any thoughts?

I did think of that. Maybe I can get someone to man my phone while I try and reproduce it. I don’t own any camera equipment. It is almost like the ball is riding up off the back (or side) of that car target. That target is also leaning more and more to the right so it is definitely getting beat up. This is the only place I have air ball issues.

Hi Seb, I have experienced a momentary loss of power on the flippers. I am not sure what is causing it yet. The first time it happened I adjusted the gap on the left flipper cabinet switch. I have recently experienced it again on the right flipper. At this point I am going to say it just needs a flipper cabinet switch adjustment again.

I had a player start Red Line Mania immediately after starting a creature battle (Gorilla). Red line mania ended with an odd some red some green insert lighting then I believe returned to normal creature battle.

I agree it does seem like a software bug though no one responded so maybe this is already known. I can't say exactly what led to this state since it was another player playing and I had just stepped away only to just catch the game starting Red Line while in a creature battle and I know that should not happen.

The snakes get me, they seem to be the hardest. Very fitting that they will escape if too much time has elapsed. You know how snakes are, they are always trying to escape

The last I saw these were on his "to build" list and I think he was gauging interest. I was not able to order a set at that time, this was maybe a month ago.

Surprisingly my kids are not attracted to Hot Wheels. My 7 year old still likes WOZ, it is his favorite. Odd though, I though they would be all over Hot Wheel. Just goes to show with kids, sometimes its the $7 toy they love and the $50 one they toss aside, you just never know what they will take to. I am pretty good with the Track builder shot but once in a while if I really need that left orbit and I just cant hit it I back flip it. Same for the forward kickback. I love to hit that shot straight on but I will back flip that one also if necessary.

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I have started thinking about calculating what the fastest time it could be completed in, I think it will be a while before I top it but you never know.

Yea, Scoot that is still a really good time man.

That is some serious desperation there. I haven't gotten anywhere with the LED issue. So far it looks like if I unplug a group of LED's from the LED driver board the issue goes away...so far, but I would need to run the game a lot longer to confirm. I took some voltage readings here and there of the 12v and 5v. 12v is a hair low, 5v being the lowest at around 4.82v at some LED boards. The 5v seems to fluctuate but could be normal depending on the demand on the system at a given time.

Oh...faster yet..., shaved off a few seconds. I think I can get it lower. I dont know if I will get as low as 50 some seconds but I should be able to shave a little more off yet.

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I see. I am not looking to exploit the system, just going to keep trying to get it a little lower. Not that there is anything wrong with taking advantages of loop holes just to see how low you can get it.

On another note I haven't been able to get out of third gear. I have loosely pursued it but moved over to focusing on race time.

That is my normal method to all different games I play. It makes sense to break the game down and work on one thing at a time. Not that I always play like that, sometimes its nice to just work with the randomness of the game. Five balls?....never lol. Yea I didn't realize the turbo boost was such an integral part of increasing rpms. Once you get to third gear it almost seems impossible to get to fourth just by hitting the targets alone. It just takes too many hits to them to achieve that. Thanks for the advice guys.

I did it in 1:48, factory settings

You shouldn't be waiting long, these guys are really good with helping people out. I am sure someone will chime in soon to help you out.