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Quoted from Fieldsweeper:Please do a Sorcerer lol
I second this- I've got a Sorcerer and a friend has one that could both use a hardtop. Pretty much every Sorcerer I've ever seen is bad around the inserts in the center.
Plus it would complete the System 9s trifecta of hardtops.
Quoted from ibis:Start from the bottom up, not the top down. That way if theres a slight off-set, its out of the eyes view.
This- also marker around the top inserts with a paint pen so even if it is off slightly you don't see the bare wood.
Quoted from mathewrs:Do you guys plan on making a Data East Simpsons Hard Top?
Probably not, it's licensed. Outside Edge's MO: A) Non licensed B) medium/large selling game C) A game they have a good scannable copy of
Quoted from SantaEatsCheese:There were a few at Allentown that showed the difference between a good installation and a bad one.
The one Space Shuttle looked and played perfectly to me. The one on 8 ball deluxe further back in freeplay did not. The inserts were cloudy in places where it looked like they had not sanded smoothly, and there were decided lumps in the playfield... I don't know how that was done.
Xenon and Space Shuttle seemed to play perfectly to me.
I 100% recommend these as an option ESPECIALLY over an overlay, even with clearcoat. I've had 2 machines with overlays. One was an install job I did myself on an Attack From Mars. The overlay was missing art. One was the Flash Gordon I now have that is expertly installed and clear coated. It is missing a few little things (no numbers on the arrows on the upper playfield), and doesn't line up perfectly, (holes line up perfectly on left of playfield but are off on right.
I did not see the types of issues I saw with missing art on Outside Edge Hardtops like I do with ebay vinyl overlays.
Edit to add, Gdonovan, you are one of the few pinsiders who can actually touch up a playfield and clear it to make it look perfect. I would recommend you keep doing what you do as your results are amazing. Leave the hardtops to us amatures.
THIS. You HAVE to sand the pf flat before you lay down the hardtop. If you don't do that, it's not going to be level.
Quoted from Charles_Kline:I still have no idea WTF the white powder is. The playfield was blown off and vacuumed before 3 coats of clear coat, black paint around all inserts then 2 more coats of clear to seal the black.
I'm considering how to get rid of it. I'm either going to drill two small holes in the edges of the insert under the art to use compressed air to try to blow the crap out or, I'm thinking about using a forstner bit to drill out the playfield under the insert so it can be removed from the bottom and then that shit cleaned out. The odds of getting it out in one piece are slim. I'd have to see if I could find one jeweled insert to replace it with (not holding breath) or I'd have to replace it with a piece of red sheet acrylic cut to a circle (which would stink but would be way better than a starbust in BK)
Had the same issue with a high speed hardtop. Infuriating. Ended up using a tiny medical needle to fish it out inbetween the hardtop and the wood.
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