(Topic ID: 218168)

Official "HARDTOPS" thread

By Skypilot

10 months ago

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“If we produce a Hardtop for this game would yo purchase it?”

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#82 10 months ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

So if the hardtop needs a cleaning what product would be recommended. I seem to recall seeing no Novus 1 somewhere, but waxing okay? Thanks!

Novus 1 would be fine. Wax is A-OK (especially if you want a insanely fast game)!

4 months later
#294 5 months ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

I left mine in. Figured the odds of ever needing to replace them are tiny and I'd potentially do more damage taking them out and reinstalling. Plus I could always put a small hole in the hardtop if necessary.

I also left mine in. Jay's reasoning was the same as mine.

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#444 3 months ago


I wouldn't install a hardtop as it's too nice. If you are seriously interested in resolving, I would send out to a playfield restorer (like HSA, etc) to get it restored.

#468 3 months ago
Quoted from MrSanRamon:

I sent an email, but thought I'd post here too.
If you already have a hardtop for a specific game, would it be possible to print different artwork on that hartop plastic?

It's been discussed in prior threads with Outside Edge. I think he was open to the idea, but I would guess it's not an immediate priority.

#473 3 months ago
Quoted from MrSanRamon:

In the email I was sent, this was the response: "...the costs associated are usually wayyyy higher than an average person realizes."
I just asked if it was possible, not if he thought I couldn't afford it.

So, I guess you found your answer. Yes, it is possible but really expensive.

I know that for the first HardTop it took him at least 6 months to get something ready to prototype. Also remember that many of these folks working on building HardTops have day-to-day jobs outside of this, so sometimes it's not "buying someone's time" as it is as "actually having time to do it."

My thought would be that if you are looking for an immediate solution, a HardTop probably isn't the right product for you at this exact moment.

It would be awesome to see HardTop re-themes, but like I stated I don't think it's a roadmap item as there are so many outstanding titles that need original artwork at this time.

#510 3 months ago
Quoted from tjc02002:

Im not trying to be a picky complainer here. I pretty much immediately noticed a ghosting effect on one of the games the seller brought to the Allentown Pinfest in 2018(I believe it was a space shuttle). I wish I took a picture of it, but I didn't. It seemed most logical based on my observations at that show and my conversations with the seller that it was a bit of dust generated in the pocket between the hardtop and insert. The topic came up because I was simply asking, in this thread, if they could offer the product without the adhesive. I thought(and still think) if I install one of these I would rather not stick it down. I have since realized that I could just simply not remove the adhesive backing but I would still rather just buy the product without adhesive at all. Also I am wondering if the inserts that are painted over have adhesive or not. I know there is no adhesive in the areas of somewhat transparent inserts but what about the totally painted over ones. Unfortunately I cant find all that many detailed pictures of the product online to verify what areas have adhesive and what don't.

First, I really think you're making a "mountain out of a mole hill" here. I've done two hardtop installs (both Space Shuttle) with no issues from what you're attempting to bring up.

I ran downstairs quickly and grabbed my FG hardtop and took some pictures since you were interested in the bottom adhesive layer. Where you see brown paper, there is the adhesive.

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