Official "HARDTOPS" thread

Quoted from Mr_Outlane:
LOL! I don't even know what a torsion box table is?

A torsion box table is like a giant I-beam grid.

It is dead flat, and stays that way. You can't flex it

Mine is 11.5" deep, so I can clamp anything to it and know it will glue up dead-nuts-square

If you build a rolling cart under it, make sure it is the same height as your tablesaw....you will instantly know why

Over the years, mine got covered in glue and gouges, so I pulled it up onto the CNC mechmate, and then ran a surfacing bit over the entire top - dead flat again.
Inside the Torsion box table, is a grid of the same material as the top and bottom

#1852 3 years ago

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vid1900

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Quoted from Mr_Outlane:
Thanks for the idea Vid! * You should start you own YouTube channel called Vid's vids.

That would be funny.

I've done videos before, but it quadruples the time it takes to do a repair, even without editing (let alone no one could understand my accent...).

#1853 3 years ago

NIC

Mr_Outlane

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Quoted from vid1900:
That would be funny.
I've done videos before, but it quadruples the time it takes to do a repair, even without editing (let alone no one could understand my accent...).

Thanks again vid!! Always a learning experience around you!!

#1854 3 years ago

YOP

dyopp21

The Yoppsicle

Arlington, TN

8y 85,150 650 92 6

Quoted from vid1900:
That would be funny.
I've done videos before, but it quadruples the time it takes to do a repair, even without editing (let alone no one could understand my accent...).

I did this ONE timelapse of a start to finish resto. That was the last time I took the time to do all that setup. Usually I'll just cover a small thing here and there, or a final reveal along with some rules.

#1855 3 years ago

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vid1900

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Quoted from dyopp21:
I did this ONE timelapse of a start to finish resto. That was the last time I took the time to do all that setup. Usually I'll just cover a small thing here and there, or a final reveal along with some rules.

That's a great video, I've watched that before (as should everyone)

#1856 3 years ago

KEN

radium

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Quoted from vid1900:
A torsion box table is like a giant I-beam grid.
It is dead flat, and stays that way. You can't flex it
Mine is 11.5" deep, so I can clamp anything to it and know it will glue up dead-nuts-square
If you build a rolling cart under it, make sure it is the same height as your tablesaw....you will instantly know why
Over the years, mine got covered in glue and gouges, so I pulled it up onto the CNC mechmate, and then ran a surfacing bit over the entire top - dead flat again.
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CNC is cheating, your supposed to build your own router sled and plane it

1 week later

#1857 3 years ago

BTF

PinballManiac40

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#1858 3 years ago

BJO

Toine79

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Affligem

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I hope Earthshaker is next

#1859 3 years ago

CJK

ChrisPINk25

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I hope space station is soon!

#1860 3 years ago

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AndHart120

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13y 67,550 813 49 1

Wow didn’t expect that System 11 to be the next one. Still have my fingers crossed for Space Station!

#1861 3 years ago

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goingincirclez

GIC Pinball

9y 116K 2,835 27

Yeah, that came outta nowhere. Where's Space Station and F-14?

I KNOW! The moment I place my order for Blackout, they'll announce Space Station to screw me out of combined shipping...

(Seriously I was holding off thinking *maybe any moment now* but... arrgh. First World Problem, I know).

#1862 3 years ago

CLY

Clytor

Richmond Pin Collective

Richmond, VA

9y 87,550 1,121 18 7

Quoted from goingincirclez:
Yeah, that came outta nowhere. Where's Space Station and F-14?
I KNOW! The moment I place my order for Blackout, they'll announce Space Station to screw me out of combined shipping...
(Seriously I was holding off thinking *maybe any moment now* but... arrgh. First World Problem, I know).

Order Blackout now!

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#1863 3 years ago

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Ceckitti

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please please please.......

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#1864 3 years ago

KEN

radium

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Covington, LA

10y 93,550 4,153 12 2

Space station!!!

#1865 3 years ago

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Clintonian

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Coquitlam, BC

3y 34,900 65 7 10

Six Million Dollar Man is needing a hardtop in a big way!!!

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#1866 3 years ago

DWR

dabomb1

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Mundare, AB

8y 32,400 112 23 9 2

Could use a diner

#1867 3 years ago

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snakesnsparklers

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9y 92,800 4,828

Add me to the Bride of Pinbot list!

#1868 3 years ago

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Blakeski

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Arlington, WA

4y 34,050 57 5

If f14 is a thing....I would buy it and a future spa.....

#1869 3 years ago

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heni1977

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Decatur, IL

11y 89,800 2,529 4 6

I vote for F-14 on a monthly basis!

#1870 3 years ago

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Pandelis

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Pickering, ON

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Gottlieb Amazing Spider-Man

#1871 3 years ago

DWD

KnockerPTSD

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Hamilton, ON

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Quoted from Pandelis:
Gottlieb Amazing Spider-Man

Get them the license and im sure theyd be happy to

#1872 3 years ago

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GRUMPY

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10y 95,050 8,699

Quoted from heni1977:
I vote for F-14 on a monthly basis!

I vote all 12 months at once. F-14F-14F-14F-14F-14F-14F-14F-14F-14F-14F-14F-14!

#1873 3 years ago

JOE

alexmogil

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Weird, I thought it was gonna be Jungle Lord. Maybe it's in the pipe.

#1874 3 years ago

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Rougarou

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5y 36,650 48 3 7

I was also holding out for a Jungle Lord so I could purchase that and Pharaoh together. Anyone know if JL is still in the queue?

#1875 3 years ago

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danczaz

DBC Pinball

Hampshire, IL

10y 86,100 3,842 8

Quoted from Rougarou:
I was also holding out for a Jungle Lord so I could purchase that and Pharaoh together. Anyone know if JL is still in the queue?

It is still in the queue and being worked on... Jokerz just finished up first

#1876 3 years ago

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hawkeyexx

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Quoted from danczaz:
It is still in the queue and being worked on... Jokerz just finished up first

Waiting for its new hardtop

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#1877 3 years ago

DEJ

davej

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Bloomington, IN

11y 53,650 181 33

Hi, I have a Taxi hardtop that I'm not going to use. Its still in the box it came in. If interested let me know

Dave

#1878 3 years ago

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jcar302

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Jackson, NJ

11y 48,350 841 6

Quoted from hawkeyexx:
Waiting for its new hardtop
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Does this machine really need a hard top?
That playfield doesn't look bad.

#1879 3 years ago

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Mr_Outlane

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5y 87,800 2,818

Quoted from jcar302:
Does this machine really need a hard top?
That playfield doesn't look bad.

I would be attempting to touch up the paint on this one.

#1880 3 years ago

H_F

Hold_Fast

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Another “in for an F14”!

#1881 3 years ago

dq13

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Cincinnati, OH

3y 47,050 335 3 9

I have a Pinbot install upcoming. Right now, the playfield is covered in mylar. After removing the mylar, do I need to get up any remaining adhesive residue, or can I advance straight to sanding?

#1882 3 years ago

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PinballManiac40

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Quoted from dq13:
I have a Pinbot install upcoming. Right now, the playfield is covered in mylar. After removing the mylar, do I need to get up any remaining adhesive residue, or can I advance straight to sanding?

Just sand it. Much easier to do and some time saved.

#1883 3 years ago

KEV

La4s

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Quoted from PinballManiac40:
Just sand it. Much easier to do and some time saved.

I agree, but be prepared to go through extra sanding pads. The residue with gum up the pads pretty quickly.

#1884 3 years ago

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Didj

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6y 23,500 7

Bally Space Invaders - probably hard to license. But, when that playfield is roached, there's no hope except for a hardtop replacement.

#1885 3 years ago

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PinballManiac40

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Quoted from Didj:
Bally Space Invaders - probably hard to license. But, when that playfield is roached, there's no hope except for a hardtop replacement.

A friend just installed a playfield overlay from Classic Arcades. The inserts and artwork line up on about half the playfield and not another half, but It does exist.

CPR already did at least one run of new playfields. You can email to find out when they may run again. https://classicplayfields.com/shop/pinball-playfields/spaceinvaders/

#1886 3 years ago

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bluespin

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Quoted from Didj:
Bally Space Invaders - probably hard to license. But, when that playfield is roached, there's no hope except for a hardtop replacement.

CPR made this title once and is planning another run.
https://classicplayfields.com/product-category/pinball-playfields/page/2/

#1887 3 years ago

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PanicSteve

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West Columbia, SC

5y 18,150 6

Am I alone in needing a Kings of Steel HT? Seems like that PF took a beating, and they made 2900 of them.

#1888 3 years ago

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annex

Canfield Pinball

11y 56,900 173

Great color and indexing....
This is a prototype that just needed a few small tweaks, it was so close it is now installed on a play field.
Good work!

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#1889 3 years ago

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snakesnsparklers

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9y 92,800 4,828

So I see that entire pf overlay stickers are available for BOP, but no hardtop (yet? is this wishful thinking on my part that a BOP hardtop will be released?)

I don't have experience with either other than reading some reviews and videos. A pf overlay sticker just doesn't seem as durable or perfectly smooth like a hardtop would be. Should I consider doing the overlay sticker instead of waiting for a real hardtop to come out?

#1890 3 years ago

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vid1900

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Quoted from snakesnsparklers:
Should I consider doing the overlay sticker

Nope.

#1891 3 years ago

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snakesnsparklers

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Quoted from vid1900:
Nope.

Thanks for your input! I'll just keep on playing for now and hope for a BOP hardtop release some day.

#1892 3 years ago

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dyopp21

The Yoppsicle

Arlington, TN

8y 85,150 650 92 6

I just read an article online that currently there is a whole new series of SUPERSONIC passenger jets in the works. Anyway, that got me to thinking...

#1893 3 years ago

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PinballManiac40

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Quoted from dyopp21:
I just read an article online that currently there is a whole new series of SUPERSONIC passenger jets in the works. Anyway, that got me to thinking...

It got you thinking about a new Stern Top Gun pin?

#1894 3 years ago

KEN

radium

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Quoted from PinballManiac40:
It got you thinking about a new Stern Top Gun pin?

That would take my breath away

#1895 3 years ago

desertT1

Tucson Pinball

Vail, AZ

12y 72,550 4,032 23

Quoted from PinballManiac40:
It got you thinking about a new Stern Top Gun pin?

Um, I didn’t even know I wanted that, and now I do.

#1896 3 years ago

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EMsInKC

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Quoted from vid1900:
I asked Steve Richie if he was sad that Williams made him remove the drop targets to save money.
He told me that HE switched over to stand up targets, because the drops took away that instant reaction speed of the games.
Steve scoffed at the idea that Williams made him remove them....

He said he took them off because the drops were not good quality and broke too often. The game would have been down too much on location because the drops would be broken all the time.

I can believe that. I keep breaking the Queen drops on Joker Poker and Firepower is a lot faster than JP is. Those targets are so close to the flippers you'd be breaking them left and right.

My Wizard hardtop...just beautiful

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#1897 3 years ago

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vid1900

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