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Just PM’d outside edge but i thought i would share this absolutely terrible touch up job using magic markers on a high speed i picked up several years ago. A hardtop makeover would be a great solution!

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I have an Elektra with a matching upper playfield. Hope that they come out with a hardtop set for that upper and the lower playfield. A lot of Elektra owners need them.

I hope that your offer on this pin was also horrible...horribly low that is...

It's William's failed experiment for a High Speed: Paint-by-Numbers Edition™.

I heard they had a Bob Ross pin in the works, but Pin2K ultimately killed it. "And we'll add some little happy pop bumpers over here..."

I’m just about ready to order a hardtop as well, for this beauty I just bought for $100.

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I'd be in for a Xenon and a Centaur

FIREPOWER II please...right after Blackout!

Nice score! Yes, definitely a candidate for a new PF.

Yea, I just have to get it working first. Once I do that, I will start stripping it down and get one ordered.

for 100$ there arent many bad deals if its a complete pin

that will be great after the hardtop

How bad is it operationally wise? Major or just some much needed love?

It's painful looking at it right now. Such neglect.

I was pleasantly surprised. It boots and the boards are all in good shape. But it doesn't start. I haven't had a chance to dig into it yet, this is my busy season for repairs. But the plastics are in good shape. The unobtainable pop bumper caps are MINT! Ramp is crack free. There was a wood screw where the upper flipper should have been?? I am sure half the switches are bad. We will see in a couple weeks.

The cabinet also has some damage I MUST address. Namely the bottom of the head is destroyed.

Sounds like a bit of work but not unreasonable.

I give them A+ for tenacity.

Do you plan on running another batch of hard tops for Flash Gordon any time soon?

The Outside Edge web site is back up and states: "We are now taking orders for all titles, and ready to ship most of them immediately!".

Next Up..
8 Ball Deluxe..8)

Getting orders lined up for my local peeps, before I slap mine down too.

You guys should consider selling clear hardtops, for other machines, to protect them for years to come.

Takes time to create them and beta test and make adjustments.

Adhesion is a problem. Unless there is a clear adhesive that could be added to the bottom of the protector this solution would be the same as the floating "lexan protector" offered by others.

I've put clear lexan protectors down on several machines and if it's not secured to playfield the pillowing effect of that thin layer of air adds the tiniest bit of friction and slows the ball. Case in point, Firepower with a simple protector- the top lock shot with any kind of slope becomes very difficult. Case #2- High Speed with a simple protector, the outer loop shot becomes almost impossible. It's a 1 out of 20 shot maybe and that's even with decreased slop.

Yea I am not a fan of a floating protector. It... for me, ruins the feel of the game.

I bought a playfield protector for my F-14 and removed it after a month because I got tired of particles getting under it constantly and having to try and blow them out with high pressure air which was difficult to do and often just blew particles to other locations. Then if it moves at all, it scratches the bottom of protector and there is nothing you can do about it and it looks like shit.

Strange, I have one on my f-14 as well and no issues at all with things getting under it or scratching. I got mine in August though and they claim the new material is thinner and better.

Still my art is messed up so would love a hardtop for it. The protector is doing well in the meantime

I've had a playfield protector in my EBD for nearly a year now - it "hides" rough spots in both inlanes that would hold the ball captive after trapping it with the flipper and letting go of the flipper, and it also stops the awkward directions the ball takes when running over cupped inserts. I've been very pleased with the performance! Still....looking very much forward to the EBD hardtop next month to put in the machine....if anyone wants an EBD playfield protector cheap, PM me in January.

How is that even possible? The hard top is stuck down and really not removable. The surfaces need to be clean before you install it as well.

Apples and oranges. He's talking about a pf protector sheet, not a Hardtop.

Man, my reading comprehension sucks....

Side note. Would anyone be interested in a Comet playfield with a hardtop installed?

How did you end up with that? It looked like your Comet thread was going to be a good one. Are you still making progress?

I have 3 playfields. 1 good and two shot. I'm going to hard top one, but while i'm at it, doing a second one wouldn't be hard at all. If someone isn't confident installing a hard top, they might be interested. I'd rather put a good playfield back out there in a machine than have it just sit around here.

Sounds good. Would be great if you keep updating your thread. I always enjoy those type threads. I Hardtoppped my Comet quite a while ago, it still looks perfect. Great product! Enjoy!

I'll be updating it. Right now i'm disassembling and doing inventory of what's working and not working. Lots of parts to check.

Sure wish you said high speed and not comet. Working on my high speed playfield is giving me serious anxiety.

Is it ready yet????
Sorry couldn't resist. LOL

Is EBD really in higher demand than SoF? Was playing my SoF last night and was telling myself, "some day...."

There were over 10K EBD made compared to under 3K SoF....

Higher ranked game and more production for EBD. If it were my company, I'd make EBD before SoF. Better chance of ROI.

Completely understandable. Hopefully with Outsideedge being back in production they can start cranking out the product. I'm sure with inventory being back in stock and the fact that the product has really started to take off in popularity and favoritism towards the hobbyist they will do well. I'm just being impatient and selfish here when I want SoF. All good things...

Okay I have DA sanded my BK playfield to 800 grit. And I just polished the inserts to a scratch free finish with Novus 2. So how do I clean the PF to prepare for clear-coating? Obviously I dont want any crazy reaction to the clear due to the Novus.

Thanks

Just wipe it down with nafla and let it dry. Then I give it a wipe with a tack rag right before I spray.

Nafla = Naphtha: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Klean-Strip-Naphtha-Solvent-1-qt-Case-Of-6/189112618

You can also get it at Home Depot. There are many variations under many different names - VM&P Naphtha is the preferred among pinheads.

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thanks

About your BK (it's been mentioned before here but it is not mentioned in the Hardtop instructions) - it is critical to clean the back of the hardtop where the inserts are located as it may not be fully clean from the factory. Otherwise reflections will look horrible at some angles.

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The good news, it does take much of a shift in the viewing angle before it looks okay, and it looks fine in a darker room setting with the lights on/flashing.

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Also, be on lookout for junk under the adhesive layer as I mentioned here:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/official-hardtops-thread/page/21#post-5281304

Good luck with your clear!

If you have polished the inserts, do NOT clear coat it! The clear will have nothing to bite to and will lift, or ghost over time.

Cyclone when?

Flash Gordon, please!

Ditto