(Topic ID: 218168)

Official "HARDTOPS" thread


By Skypilot

1 year ago



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“If we produce a Hardtop for this game would yo purchase it?”

  • High Speed 132 votes
    15%
  • Firepower 94 votes
    10%
  • Silverball Mania 39 votes
    4%
  • Time Warp 19 votes
    2%
  • Mata Hari 37 votes
    4%
  • Blackout 77 votes
    9%
  • Tri-Zone 16 votes
    2%
  • Swords of Fury 57 votes
    6%
  • Space Station 44 votes
    5%
  • Fathom 35 votes
    4%
  • Pinbot 96 votes
    11%
  • Eight Ball Deluxe 102 votes
    11%
  • Strikes and Spares 32 votes
    4%
  • Kiss (Bally) 33 votes
    4%
  • Supersonic 29 votes
    3%
  • Grand Lizard 56 votes
    6%

(Multiple choice - 898 votes by 525 Pinsiders)

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#1001 49 days ago

Okay I am prepared to use this to clear the PF. Anyone think this product is a bad idea?
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Minwax-11-5-fl-oz-Gloss-Oil-based-Polyurethane/999913663

#1002 49 days ago
Quoted from wrd1972:

Okay I am prepared to use this to clear the PF. Anyone think this product is a bad idea?
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Minwax-11-5-fl-oz-Gloss-Oil-based-Polyurethane/999913663

Shooter lane and wood you should be fine, I'd worry about any polyurethane yellowing over time if used on inserts.

#1003 49 days ago
Quoted from AUKraut:

Shooter lane and wood you should be fine, I'd worry about any polyurethane yellowing over time if used on inserts.

I agree

#1004 49 days ago

I've read conflicting opinions about using water based poly. Some claim it doesn't yellow as bad as oil based. But this is beyond my pay grade.

** And inserts need tooth for clear to grab. Do not sand too smooth.

Vid's Guide... https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vids-guide-to-ultimate-playfield-restoration/page/20#post-1795975

#1005 49 days ago
Quoted from wrd1972:

Okay I am prepared to use this to clear the PF. Anyone think this product is a bad idea?
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Minwax-11-5-fl-oz-Gloss-Oil-based-Polyurethane/999913663

I used that poly on the shooter lane, apron, and upper arch area of my PF before installing a hardtop and was very pleased at the results. It did darken yellow a bit but I was actually going for that effect since after sanding down those areas to get rid of ground in dirt, wear, and ball tracks, the sanding left the wood a much lighter-than-original color. I would not use it on playfield paint/graphics.

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#1006 49 days ago

With all of this activity I was hoping that there were some new announcements

#1007 49 days ago
Quoted from Timerider:

Got a chance to play the Bally Wizard at Expo this week, and I was pleased with the feel of the game.
It did not have that "floaty" feeling that you get with other types of overlay products. Played very "naturally" IMO.
Hopefully they can do a Captain Fantastic some day.

Quoted from AntennaMan:

KISS, but no doubt with Gene involved, it would triple the regular price.

I'm hoping for a Captain Fantastic as well some day, but wonder if it would suffer from the same inflation issue that Kiss would (a large royalty payment to Elton).

#1008 49 days ago
Quoted from dyopp21:

I'm hoping for a Captain Fantastic as well some day, but wonder if it would suffer from the same inflation issue that Kiss would (a large royalty payment to Elton).

Not sure where Elton is at with licensing but Gene has licensed everything under the sun. He makes zero on any of the original Ball KISS pins today, zero on any restores and flips. I would expect that he'd be open to licensing a hardtop at a reasonable fee. That would at least get him in on a bit of the Pinball revival, otherwise he continues to make nothing on the old pin.

#1009 49 days ago
Quoted from dnaman:

Not sure where Elton is at with licensing but Gene has licensed everything under the sun. He makes zero on any of the original Ball KISS pins today, zero on any restores and flips. I would expect that he'd be open to licensing a hardtop at a reasonable fee. That would at least get him in on a bit of the Pinball revival, otherwise he continues to make nothing on the old pin.

I'm pretty sure Gene gets a piece of every reproduction part for Bally Kiss. PFs, plastics, pop caps, etc. Anything with the band's likeness on it.

#1010 49 days ago
Quoted from dnaman:

He makes zero on any of the original Ball KISS pins today, zero on any restores and flips.

Did you see the price on the CPR repros? I'd venture to say that licensing was the why.

#1011 49 days ago

Still holding out hope for an Elektra set. At least the upper and lower playfields..

#1012 49 days ago
Quoted from Mk1Mod0:

Did you see the price on the CPR repros? I'd venture to say that licensing was the why.

No, what was the cost difference?

#1014 47 days ago

So costly enough for something like this.

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#1015 47 days ago

Hi All,
A quick update...
We have put up a new message at www.pinballgifts.com (now also outsideedgeproducts.com). The site, and full production will be up soon.

We have a few now of:
High Speed
Space Shuttle
Taxi
Future Spa
Wizard!
Pharaoh

More ready very soon: Black Knight, Firepower, Frontier, Comet, Mata Hari, EK

New titles coming: Eight Ball Deluxe, Secret #1, Secret #2.

EBD... think sometime December.

If you would like one of these titles in stock, just PM me. Name, email address to Paypal, and address for shipping is needed.

Thanks everyone!

#1016 47 days ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

Hi All,
A quick update...
We have put up a new message at www.pinballgifts.com (now also outsideedgeproducts.com). The site, and full production will be up soon.
We have a few now of:
High Speed
Space Shuttle
Taxi
Future Spa
Wizard!
Pharaoh
More ready very soon: Black Knight, Firepower, Frontier, Comet, Mata Hari, EK
New titles coming: Eight Ball Deluxe, Secret #1, Secret #2.
EBD... think sometime December.
If you would like one of these titles in stock, just PM me. Name, email address to Paypal, and address for shipping is needed.
Thanks everyone!

Huzzah! Congrats!

#1017 47 days ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

The site, and full production will be up soon.

Great news!!! Looking forward to everything being up and running!

#1018 47 days ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

New titles coming: Eight Ball Deluxe

Those are gonna sell.

#1019 46 days ago
Quoted from radium:

Those are gonna sell.

I think so. What a great product concept!

The 2 secrets are slowly killing me but happy to see that there is something more coming sooner. I do hope that it is what I need.

#1020 46 days ago

Good to hear that BK is nearly ready. Cant wait to purchase one.

#1021 46 days ago
Quoted from dnaman:

The 2 secrets are slowly killing me

I agree, Hoping one of those is F-14!!

#1022 46 days ago
Quoted from heni1977:

Hoping one of those is F-14!!

DITTO!

#1024 45 days ago

Centaur bruh
Arguably the best playfield art ever... why would this not be a prime candidate?

#1025 45 days ago

Will flash Gordon be made available again?

#1026 45 days ago
Quoted from kba78:

Will flash Gordon be made available again?

I was told yes, but no specific time frame...Was just glad to hear it will be at some point

#1027 45 days ago
Quoted from kba78:

Will flash Gordon be made available again?

Yes

#1028 44 days ago

I see great things in my bk's future,ready for december hopefully

#1029 40 days ago

Just got the hardtops installed on my BK. I did run into an issue of a small dimple showing up under the lower playfield despite proper vacuuming, Nafta and tack cloth. You can see the dimple by the reflection, so I was kicking myself (even though I was so careful).

Then, when applying the Hardtops to the upper playfield, I took a close look at the adhesive, and found some debris under the adhesive from the factory! See the pictures. I used a knife to cutout the debris, and the upper playfield went on perfectly.

All this to say: inspect the adhesive carefully before laying it down. Hopefully the new process will be cleaner/better.

To be clear: I am (overall) very pleased with the outcome and with the product. Just sharing my experience.
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#1030 40 days ago
Quoted from Michel_K17:

Just got the hardtops installed on my BK. I did run into an issue of a small dimple showing up under the lower playfield despite proper vacuuming, Nafta and tack cloth. You can see the dimple by the reflection, so I was kicking myself (even though I was so careful).
Then, when applying the Hardtops to the upper playfield, I took a close look at the adhesive, and found some debris under the adhesive from the factory! See the pictures. I used a knife to cutout the debris, and the upper playfield went on perfectly.
All this to say: inspect the adhesive carefully before laying it down. Hopefully the new process will be cleaner/better.
To be clear: I am (overall) very pleased with the outcome and with the product. Just sharing my experience.
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Hmm, Thank you for letting us know. We will watch out for this issue. It was likely milling dust/specks... as sometimes static electricity makes it cling to the parts. It looks like a little got trapped and we missed it. Moving forward, we are going to try to work on grounding the static better so it does not "cling" so much as we clean the parts.

We sorry about that, but glad it all went down ok.

#1031 40 days ago

Back in stock... We have a few of:
High Speed, Frontier, Space Shuttle, Comet, Firepower, Black knight, Wizard, Taxi, Future Spa

The website will go Live at the beginning of December. Until then, just PM us with a name, address and good email to invoice if you would like to order.

Thank you!

#1032 40 days ago

Black knight here please

#1033 35 days ago

Not trying to steal any business from OE. But I am about to do 2 hardtops side by side. My firepower PF is actually not that bad. And I hate to sand it down knowing someone might have one way worse. I am will to trade my OK PF for a trashed out one as long as it's not warped. You pay for all shipping of course. Might cost someone 100$ instead of 300$.

#1034 34 days ago

Have you guys considered producing a hardtop for Viking? I'd be all over that

#1035 34 days ago

Is there any downsides to using Rustoleum 2x Clear over 2PAC? I had planned to use Spraymax 2k but ran out of time with the cold weather and feel more comfortable spraying Rustoleum in my garage. Appreciate any advice

#1036 34 days ago
Quoted from ruralcollector:

Is there any downsides to using Rustoleum 2x Clear over 2PAC? I had planned to use Spraymax 2k but ran out of time with the cold weather and feel more comfortable spraying Rustoleum in my garage. Appreciate any advice

See post #6 in this thread.

#1037 34 days ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

Back in stock... We have a few of:
High Speed, Frontier, Space Shuttle, Comet, Firepower, Black knight, Wizard, Taxi, Future Spa
The website will go Live at the beginning of December. Until then, just PM us with a name, address and good email to invoice if you would like to order.
Thank you!

are you out of pharaoh ?

#1038 34 days ago
Quoted from ruralcollector:

Is there any downsides to using Rustoleum 2x Clear over 2PAC? I had planned to use Spraymax 2k but ran out of time with the cold weather and feel more comfortable spraying Rustoleum in my garage. Appreciate any advice

As an alternative, you can also polish the inserts and poly any exposed wood (e.g.: shooter lane). It’s more labor, but you’ll never risk a ghosted insert.

#1039 33 days ago

Here's a 'vote' for Lost World

#1040 32 days ago

My original vote on the poll was for Supersonic because I have one of those to resto, but I bought a Grand Lizard yesterday with a blown out playfield, so I'd like to "+1" for that machine as well!

#1041 32 days ago
Quoted from dyopp21:

My original vote on the poll was for Supersonic because I have one of those to resto, but I bought a Grand Lizard yesterday with a blown out playfield, so I'd like to "+1" for that machine as well!

Grand Lizard is fun! It needs to be saved!

#1043 31 days ago

How much do hardtop sell for? I'm budgeting a project Blackout. Thanks

#1044 31 days ago

graysonsdad my last one was $333 USD. (USA shipped)

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#1045 30 days ago

Comet Hardtop set up at the Nashville Grand Ole Gameroom Expo.

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#1046 29 days ago
Quoted from BertoDRINK1:

Comet Hardtop set up at the Nashville Grand Ole Gameroom Expo.

Looked and played fantastic !

#1047 28 days ago

I need an EK! Hope its available soon!

#1048 24 days ago

Just read the site update, hope EBD becomes available soon after things get set back up and glad to see these are still going to be made. The space shuttle we put on two years ago or so still looks and plays like a new playfield and that game has seen thousands of plays in that time. Really a fantastic product and I will be buying again.

#1049 22 days ago
Quoted from BertoDRINK1:

Comet Hardtop set up at the Nashville Grand Ole Gameroom Expo.[quoted image]

Man, I wish I had seen this so I could play it!

#1050 22 days ago

I am looking for a Williams Space Shuttle hard top. I know this was one you originally produced. You don’t by chance have any available,do you?

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