(Topic ID: 218168)

Official "HARDTOPS" thread


By Skypilot

1 year ago



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“If we produce a Hardtop for this game would yo purchase it?”

  • High Speed 117 votes
    16%
  • Firepower 78 votes
    11%
  • Silverball Mania 35 votes
    5%
  • Time Warp 16 votes
    2%
  • Mata Hari 26 votes
    4%
  • Blackout 53 votes
    7%
  • Tri-Zone 12 votes
    2%
  • Swords of Fury 52 votes
    7%
  • Space Station 41 votes
    6%
  • Fathom 32 votes
    4%
  • Pinbot 79 votes
    11%
  • Eight Ball Deluxe 78 votes
    11%
  • Strikes and Spares 25 votes
    3%
  • Kiss (Bally) 23 votes
    3%
  • Supersonic 23 votes
    3%
  • Grand Lizard 48 votes
    7%

(Multiple choice - 738 votes by 422 Pinsiders)

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#751 25 days ago

I'd like a Hurricane.. I'm thinking of sanding and retouching - but there's no way I could compete with the 'as new' quality you're offering - fantastic..

#752 24 days ago
Quoted from Bill_Froog:

I'd like a Hurricane.. I'm thinking of sanding and retouching - but there's no way I could compete with the 'as new' quality you're offering - fantastic..

I'd be surprised if they made a Hurricane. Seems like all the playfields I've seen were in pretty good shape.

#753 24 days ago
Quoted from eyeamred2u:

Oh good, it is only an IPA! LOL I was worried haha

Did you think it was lighter fluid

#754 23 days ago
Quoted from dnaman:

There appears to be so much opportunity here for this company's product.

Yeah if they sit on it much longer they will get passed by here pretty soon.

#755 22 days ago

As requested. Looks like time for a new superband. The grime by the pop bumpers just rubs right off.

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#756 22 days ago

Yep, I can't wait for a F-14 and space station!!! Truly hope as they get the process down that things move faster for them!!

#757 19 days ago

I wish you made one for FunHouse! I need to get mine replaced!

#758 17 days ago

Please consider making a hardtop for Bally Space Time, 5000 produced, and Time Zone, 2500 produced. You can use same playfield on either machine. My Space Time playfield is so bad it is beyond restoration. Machine was stored in a unheated shed for many years by former owner. Mechanically machine work's great. Your company is the only answer to restore the playfield.
Thank You

#759 17 days ago

is there a good possibility of a Grand Lizard hard top?

#760 17 days ago
Quoted from busa32927:

is there a good possibility of a Grand Lizard hard top?

Announced last October:

”Hello All,
We are happy to announce or next 5 titles we plan to have available in the next 12-14 months (by end of 2019). They are....

Eight Ball Deluxe (permission pending)
Pinbot
Swords of Fury
Grand Lizard
Blackout

We do not (nor is it necessary) take pre orders. Please just keep your eyes open for the announcement here as each one hits the market.”

#761 16 days ago
Quoted from cmack750:

Announced last October:
”Hello All,
We are happy to announce or next 5 titles we plan to have available in the next 12-14 months (by end of 2019). They are....
Eight Ball Deluxe (permission pending)
Pinbot
Swords of Fury
Grand Lizard
Blackout
We do not (nor is it necessary) take pre orders. Please just keep your eyes open for the announcement here as each one hits the market.”

Man oh man, I hope EBD is one of the first out the chute and shows up this summer. I'm in for three of them....my keeper EBD, a project EBD I'm going to flip, and an EBD for a buddy of mine.

#762 16 days ago

Ohhhh I didn’t realize they had actually listed out EBD. Maybe I don’t want to sell mine after all...

#763 16 days ago

When they do start making an 8BD they better stock up on supplies....

#764 16 days ago
Quoted from AUKraut:

When they do start making an 8BD they better stock up on supplies....

Ahahaha, I can’t believe it’s not already out. It’s such a great game and a lot of playfields are just BEAT.

#765 16 days ago
Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

Ahahaha, I can’t believe it’s not already out. It’s such a great game and a lot of playfields are just BEAT.

They did say "pending permission".

#767 16 days ago

Eight ball deluxe followed by a Pinbot and I would be set, Can't wait

#768 16 days ago

A hardtop coming soon (we think) really makes me rethink selling mine..bleh

#769 16 days ago

Still hoping for an Elektra upper and lower set. Most are blown out and I could use a set...

#770 16 days ago
Quoted from Robotworkshop:

Still hoping for an Elektra upper and lower set. Most are blown out and I could use a set...

Definitely not this year.

#771 16 days ago

Sniff, Sniff still waiting on F-14 or Space Station, I will be patient though!

#772 15 days ago
Quoted from heni1977:

Sniff, Sniff still waiting on F-14 or Space Station, I will be patient though!

F14 repro playfields are almost ready now. I know it's a bigger price difference but sometimes you got to get what's available when you can.

#773 15 days ago
Quoted from BertoDRINK1:

F14 repro playfields

I have a NOS pf that is being clear coated right now. But I do have the original tore down and ready to ship to them when they are ready to do F-14. And yes there is a sizable difference between repro pf and hard tops.

#774 15 days ago
Quoted from heni1977:

And yes there is a sizable difference between repro pf and hard tops

Yeh Hardtops play faster!

#775 14 days ago

I've seen a number of posts from people who want Hardtops for games where someone is making a full playfield.

This from the original post : "If any of the playfield manufacturers( CPR, Mirco, others) are making or planning on making a playfield it is off limits for us."

Has that changed somewhere and I missed it?

#776 14 days ago
Quoted from middaleman:

I've seen a number of posts from people who want Hardtops for games where someone is making a full playfield.
This from the original post : "If any of the playfield manufacturers( CPR, Mirco, others) are making or planning on making a playfield it is off limits for us."
Has that changed somewhere and I missed it?

Must have changed since Taxi and Black Knight both playfields were made previously by CPR, though has been some years.

#777 14 days ago
Quoted from middaleman:

I've seen a number of posts from people who want Hardtops for games where someone is making a full playfield.
This from the original post : "If any of the playfield manufacturers( CPR, Mirco, others) are making or planning on making a playfield it is off limits for us."
Has that changed somewhere and I missed it?

Yeah, that is weird. Even the playfield guys have gone head to head a time or two. And with the new digitally printed method supposedly they never quit making them?

#778 14 days ago

The original post also says "If a company has already made the playfield it may qualify for a hardtop. Example=Taxi".

I'm assuming BK also falls under the "previously made" category? It does make it hard to understand what they can and cannot license. I would assume if someone is making a full playfield the odds of getting a Hardtop anytime soon are slim.

Though given the pace of release, the odds of getting any new Hardtop seem to be slim.

#779 12 days ago

I have a question for those who have done a Hardtop. I have been asked to apply a Firepower Hardtop. The person started sanding and doesn't trust themselves to get it right. So I have the playfield and noticed that he has sanded low spots around some of the inserts. It's hard to see but you can see it by the shadows in the picture. What do I do to level it all out? Sand down a wider area? Lather on the clear?
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#780 12 days ago

I think you may end up filling in some of the wood, sanding flat, and putting in new inserts. Or look for another donor playfield.

#781 12 days ago
Quoted from 64bsstp:

I have a question for those who have done a Hardtop. I have been asked to apply a Firepower Hardtop. The person started sanding and doesn't trust themselves to get it right. So I have the playfield and noticed that he has sanded low spots around some of the inserts. It's hard to see but you can see it by the shadows in the picture. What do I do to level it all out? Sand down a wider area? Lather on the clear?
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Hmm, that's sort of tough spot to be in. Having cleared old playfields before, which involves dripping clear into the cupped insert areas, this doesn't look like a small task. You could try to just drip (flood) those areas with clear and sand it smooth, using the remaining art as a guide. That might not work though because the clear will sand off a lot slower than the art.

So what I would probably do if I were you is to sand off the rest of the art, then clear it. Sand it a little when it's ready and you will see all the low spots. Drip clear into those areas until you think you are above level with the playfield. Again, let that harden and start sanding. Repeat until everything is level.

Like I said, I don't think they did you any favors.

#782 12 days ago
Quoted from desertT1:

Hmm, that's sort of tough spot to be in. Having cleared old playfields before, which involves dripping clear into the cupped insert areas, this doesn't look like a small task. You could try to just drip (flood) those areas with clear and sand it smooth, using the remaining art as a guide. That might not work though because the clear will sand off a lot slower than the art.
So what I would probably do if I were you is to sand off the rest of the art, then clear it. Sand it a little when it's ready and you will see all the low spots. Drip clear into those areas until you think you are above level with the playfield. Again, let that harden and start sanding. Repeat until everything is level.
Like I said, I don't think they did you any favors.

It's hard to tell how bad it is in the pics, but I bet you could get away with putting the hardtop on like that. It looks like the low parts are above where the posts are, not the switches, and wouldn't really impact ball travel. The hardtop itself shouldn't really sink into those areas unless someone is applying some hard pressure to it. That's probably the lazy way out, but I would wager you'd be ok?

#783 12 days ago

After thinking about it a little, maybe I would sand off all the art, drip clear in those inserts, and level them out. I say sand off the rest of the art so you don't trap any under the clear somehow, and it's not that hard. The clear isn't for a cosmetic thing in this instance, it's a support thing for the hardtop. I know it wouldn't be too bad, but I am seeing the hardtop sag into those areas over time. It might not, or even be noticeable, but it would be a concern of mine if this were a task I was working on.

#784 12 days ago

Will look like crap. Sand it flat and fill the valleys. Take your time this isn't a race. Read Vid's Comet guide

#785 12 days ago
Quoted from Robotworkshop:

I think you may end up filling in some of the wood, sanding flat, and putting in new inserts. Or look for another donor playfield.

^This^
If you chooose to repair this playfield, I would replace the inserts and set them to the level of the playfield. I would then gouge the wood around the inserts and apply a woodfiller/Bondo to level the field.There is way to many variences in that as it stands.

#786 12 days ago
Quoted from Skypilot:

^This^
If you chooose to repair this playfield, I would replace the inserts and set them to the level of the playfield. I would then gouge the wood around the inserts and apply a woodfiller/Bondo to level the field.There is way to many variences in that as it stands.

Keith, that's exactly what I was thinking. I don't think I can leave it and let the Hardtop bridge the cavity. I'd have to sand away a lot of area to make it smooth that way. Was thinking some self-leveling poly or something but I'm not sure what happens to the inserts then.

#787 8 days ago

Well I would do one of these again that’s for sure! Great product and east install.

Anyone got a beat up game I can buy that’s on the hardtop list?

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#788 8 days ago
Quoted from jdoz2:

Well I would do one of these again that’s for sure!

LOL!
That has to be the most beat playfield I ever saw! Hardtops are so awesome!

#789 6 days ago

Product update this week? SoF maybe...

#790 6 days ago

EBD! EBD! EBD!

#791 6 days ago

I emailed Bruce last weekend asking about the possibility of EBD in 2019. This is the reply I got:

"Yes, it is going to be started soon. No time line given... as we are always behind. Think next 12 months... "

#792 6 days ago
Quoted from Mathazar:

I emailed Bruce last weekend asking about the possibility of EBD in 2019. This is the reply I got:
"Yes, it is going to be started soon. No time line given... as we are always behind. Think next 12 months... "

Thanks for the update! Now that I’ve definitively decided I’m keeping mine, I’m 100% in for a hardtop. Can’t. Freakin. Wait.

#793 4 days ago

Please make Kiss!

#794 4 days ago

"Soon"..." think next 12 months"

These are not closely related.

#795 4 days ago
Quoted from StylesBitchly:

TX Sector and Robo-Wars!

Yes please - 2nd these Premier playfields, seems quality was really bad on these. I would definitely buy Robo-Wars.

#796 4 days ago

You guys better have time on your hands - read the posts on the High Speed Hardtop - it is coming out (latest is 4 week from now - which means mid July) but it took months beyond original dates they stated. The guys who make the hardtop state repeatedly it is not their primary business so it is a side project.

I am fine with the longer wait times when you get a nice product that is way easier to install than a new playfield with the shiny coat of fresh plastic.

Just realize if it is not their prior stated next tables - it could be years away. I think EBD was next - or I think I read that somewhere. I have no association whatsoever with the project but I read on the forums that was next. Just saying if you read the High Speed hardtop discussion you will get a feel of how long this takes. After waiting myself for a High Speed I could see them maybe doing at most a couple tables a year at best.

#797 4 days ago

It can go quickly. But, patience is a virtue.
I've done 4 of the prototypes and simpler, earlier playfields like Evil Knievel & Mata Hari went "quickly".....ie: several months.
Firepower took longer. (Guess which one I really, really wanted!)
It might be a situation like early CPR before they had their "Art Team".
With the improving economy their day jobs are probably getting busier also.
And, OuterEdge did those Firepower backglasses, too. Lot's going on from a limited crew with limited time means the Hardtop you want will take some time.
Not that much different from the other sources. I'm just glad they can be available. I'm old enough to remember when a new playfield was not available in any form. (Hmm, guess that was really the start of the 15 year wait?)

#798 22 hours ago

I’ve had my hard top installed for several months now. I’ve noticed that one of my inserts has started to “cloud” — basically this opaque whiteness seems to be spreading from the edge. Anyone else experiencing this? Not sure if it’s the hardtop or something I messed up on install.

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#799 22 hours ago
Quoted from Spraynard:

I’ve had my hard top installed for several months now. I’ve noticed that one of my inserts has started to “cloud” — basically this opaque whiteness seems to be spreading from the edge. Anyone else experiencing this? Not sure if it’s the hardtop or something I messed up on install.

It's been almost 3 months since my hardtop install on Mata Hari...no issues yet, knock on wood. How did you prep your inserts before laying down the hardtop? I sanded 600-800-1000 then put on a couple of thin rattle can coats of Krylon Crystal Clear Gloss.

#800 21 hours ago
Quoted from Mathazar:

It's been almost 3 months since my hardtop install on Mata Hari...no issues yet, knock on wood. How did you prep your inserts before laying down the hardtop? I sanded 600-800-1000 then put on a couple of thin rattle can coats of Krylon Crystal Clear Gloss.

Pretty much followed Vid's guide exactly. My only deviation is that I used Krylon Crystal Clear like you instead of 2PAC.

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