Official "HARDTOPS" thread

(Topic ID: 218168)

Official "HARDTOPS" thread


By Skypilot

7 months ago



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  • 552 posts
  • 153 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 21 hours ago by Mathazar
  • Topic is favorited by 114 Pinsiders

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“If we produce a Hardtop for this game would yo purchase it?”

  • High Speed 86 votes
    14%
  • Firepower 67 votes
    11%
  • Silverball Mania 31 votes
    5%
  • Time Warp 14 votes
    2%
  • Mata Hari 26 votes
    4%
  • Blackout 41 votes
    7%
  • Tri-Zone 10 votes
    2%
  • Swords of Fury 45 votes
    8%
  • Space Station 30 votes
    5%
  • Fathom 27 votes
    5%
  • Pinbot 61 votes
    10%
  • Eight Ball Deluxe 63 votes
    11%
  • Strikes and Spares 20 votes
    3%
  • Kiss (Bally) 16 votes
    3%
  • Supersonic 21 votes
    4%
  • Grand Lizard 41 votes
    7%

(Multiple choice - 599 votes by 328 Pinsiders)

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#501 10 days ago

Are you guys seeing **dust** or just the primer-like haze on the backside of the plastic?

#502 10 days ago

There is a Space Shuttle at MadCap Brew Co in Kent OH that is in league play every week, has about 20 trillion plays on it (give or take a dozen) since the hardtop was installed about a year ago. No dust, still looks like it was done yesterday.

#505 10 days ago

Pinside is having jitters today.

#506 10 days ago
Quoted from arcademojo:

Pinside is having jitters today.

yeah it posted like 3 time on me, what the heck. Bad internet connection on my end I think

#507 10 days ago
Quoted from mrm_4:

yeah it posted like 3 time on me, what the heck. Bad internet connection on my end I think

Nope, did the same thing to me today.

#508 10 days ago
Quoted from tjc02002:

To be fair; the seller of the product at the Allentown pinfest told me that the game(space shuttle) had the hardtop for a while and had been played a lot and that was part of why it might have had the effect we were seeing.

From what Iam reading I would have Told you just about anything that would get you to walk away from my booth .

#509 10 days ago

I think if prepped right there is no way for dust to get in there. Gotta get the inserts sanded well, polished or cleared.

#510 10 days ago
Quoted from tjc02002:

Im not trying to be a picky complainer here. I pretty much immediately noticed a ghosting effect on one of the games the seller brought to the Allentown Pinfest in 2018(I believe it was a space shuttle). I wish I took a picture of it, but I didn't. It seemed most logical based on my observations at that show and my conversations with the seller that it was a bit of dust generated in the pocket between the hardtop and insert. The topic came up because I was simply asking, in this thread, if they could offer the product without the adhesive. I thought(and still think) if I install one of these I would rather not stick it down. I have since realized that I could just simply not remove the adhesive backing but I would still rather just buy the product without adhesive at all. Also I am wondering if the inserts that are painted over have adhesive or not. I know there is no adhesive in the areas of somewhat transparent inserts but what about the totally painted over ones. Unfortunately I cant find all that many detailed pictures of the product online to verify what areas have adhesive and what don't.

First, I really think you're making a "mountain out of a mole hill" here. I've done two hardtop installs (both Space Shuttle) with no issues from what you're attempting to bring up.

I ran downstairs quickly and grabbed my FG hardtop and took some pictures since you were interested in the bottom adhesive layer. Where you see brown paper, there is the adhesive.

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#511 10 days ago

I just turned on my Taxi with a hardtop to check the inserts for dust. After about 5 seconds of doing this, I was convinced how totally ridiculous this is. I then reminded myself it is a 30 year old game that looks a million times better with a hardtop, than it did before. And then I got to playing a game or two. Absolutely love Taxi.

I think we have remind ourselves every now and then that these are pinball machines , and not jewelry.

#512 10 days ago
Quoted from Shannyman:

hey sky pilot do you know if they got the go ahead on Ebd. I've got a hardtop on a frontier no dust problems.

Yes we are doing EBD. Unfortunately High speed has been on low speed but is close to me prototyping. Fingers crossed I may have it before end of January.

#513 10 days ago

So there is some talk of dust between the top and the playfield. The Space Shuttle at the show was the original prototype.We have addressed this I thought in the past.When you clear your inserts if they are not completely sealed dust is possible.If you did not clean dust off your playfield or your Hardtop before installation this is also possible.If you took care on both of those issues you should be fine.

#514 9 days ago

I’m sorry for bringing up the whole “dust” thing. I was really just hoping to have the product offered without adhesive backing and that was one of my reasons and then the topic seems to have spiraled out of control. Again my apologies. It is a great product and I look forward to possibly using one someday.

#516 9 days ago
Quoted from tjc02002:

I’m sorry for bringing up the whole “dust” thing. I was really just hoping to have the product offered without adhesive backing and that was one of my reasons and then the topic seems to have spiraled out of control. Again my apologies. It is a great product and I look forward to possibly using one someday.

No worries. It’s only pinball

#517 9 days ago
Quoted from tjc02002:

I’m sorry for bringing up the whole “dust” thing. I was really just hoping to have the product offered without adhesive backing and that was one of my reasons and then the topic seems to have spiraled out of control. Again my apologies. It is a great product and I look forward to possibly using one someday.

Couldn’t you technically just not pull off the adhesive backing if it is what you wish to do?

#518 9 days ago

Could you just lay it down without pulling the paper backing ? The paper doesn’t cover the inserts . Or am I wrong

#519 9 days ago

Is SOF coming along? I would be extremely appreciative of an approximate date, even if it might be the expected month of release. Pretty please!

#520 9 days ago
Quoted from dnaman:

Is SOF coming along? I would be extremely appreciative of an approximate date, even if it might be the expected month of release. Pretty please!

+1 just asking for a friend

#521 9 days ago

I’m glad the dust has finally settled, now time for Baby Pac!

#522 9 days ago
Quoted from catboxer:

I’m glad the dust has finally settled, now time for Baby Pac!

don't forget granny and the gators!

#523 9 days ago

Awesome news thx sky pilot. Can't wait

#524 8 days ago

Thank geebus EBD is coming...restored mine except for playfield so I have a nice looking machine until you walk up to play it then it's like HOLY MOTHER OF GAWD who hated this playfield?!? Lol

#525 8 days ago

What's the time frame on Pinbot? I know it's getting close.

#526 8 days ago

any chance for strikes and spares?

#528 8 days ago
Quoted from foureyedcharlie:

What's the time frame on Pinbot? I know it's getting close.

The production of Hardtops is relocating to a different facility. This is why things have slowed down a bit. Once the transition is done I believe thing will speed back up a bit. I cannot comment on timeframes, sorry.

#529 8 days ago
Quoted from darcangeloel:

Boy I hope they do one, otherwise I guess I'll be playing a white wood (Just need to clear and pop out those star inserts and then I am ready!)
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At the Chicago Pinball Expo last year when at their booth he said that they would have High Speed done before the end of the year. But it's not yet listed on their site and I sent an email asking about it and have not heard back (yet).

EDIT: Nevermind. I see it's been addressed in an earlier post

#530 7 days ago

Waiting for the clear coat to cure. See you in February...

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#531 7 days ago

Any chance for strikes and spares

Who Hoo!!!

Love the game, but my playfield sucks - as do most of them. In line!

Frank

#532 7 days ago
Quoted from ltd73:

Waiting for the clear coat to cure. See you in February...
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I think all black suits a Black Knight perfectly

#533 7 days ago
Quoted from vid1900:

I think all black suits a Black Knight perfectly

Maybe a mirrored black like the fellow who did that to his Black Hole.

#534 7 days ago

How did you mask off all those inserts?

#535 7 days ago

Cyclone, cyclone, cyclone!

#536 7 days ago

Night rider

#537 6 days ago
Quoted from catboxer:

How did you mask off all those inserts?

This ^^^^^

Great idea though just not sure if I would have done the whole playfield. Looking forward to how this turns out!

#538 6 days ago
Quoted from dzorbas:

This ^^^^^
Great idea though just not sure if I would have done the whole playfield. Looking forward to how this turns out!

pop them all out and reinstall after the paint job? if ya gotta level them up anyway......

#539 5 days ago

I just don't know why you would go through the effort of painting the ENTIRE pf black. Different? Yes. Effective? Yes. But at what cost? Extra time and effort into something that will NEVER be seen again after the install is done. I do the parameter of the inserts black for the possibility of an offset. If you do the entire pf for an offset - then you have little faith in your placement of the HT. lol. I'm curious to see how the inlanes and outlanes look with black instead of the original maple showing - be sure to show the after photos!

#540 5 days ago
Quoted from TheCapn:

I'm curious to see how the inlanes and outlanes look with black instead of the original maple showing - be sure to show the after photos!

Did you ever see those "special edition" CPR Centaur with the white shooter lanes?

#541 5 days ago
Quoted from TheCapn:

I'm curious to see how the inlanes and outlanes look with black instead of the original maple showing - be sure to show the after photos!

Exactly. It will be interesting to see how this looks.

#542 4 days ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Did you ever see those "special edition" CPR Centaur with the white shooter lanes?

yup, played one last year at Texas Pinfest.

#544 2 days ago
Quoted from Skypilot:

Outsidedge will be including a filler strip on all dual level playfields.

Any chance those of us who bought one before they were included can get one sent?

#545 1 day ago

I just received my Mata Hari. I'm not sure if this art is correct? My field is worn but it looks different.

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#546 1 day ago
Quoted from fattdirk:

I just received my Mata Hari. I'm not sure if this art is correct? My field is worn but it looks different.
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I see what you mean. The Zeros in the 7000 look a little off.

#547 1 day ago
Quoted from fattdirk:

I just received my Mata Hari. I'm not sure if this art is correct? My field is worn but it looks different.
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She’s a beauty Clark

#548 1 day ago
Quoted from mrm_4:

I see what you mean. The Zeros in the 7000 look a little off.

Yeah, I'm wondering if it might been touched up ?

#549 1 day ago
Quoted from fattdirk:

I just received my Mata Hari. I'm not sure if this art is correct? My field is worn but it looks different.
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The face was painted to look like a porcelain doll. Lol

#550 1 day ago
Quoted from fattdirk:

I just received my Mata Hari. I'm not sure if this art is correct?

Restoration is what keeps art around for future generations.

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