Everything I've heard indicates that no GOT model will have an LCD.

Maybe because they were planning on it having an LCD and road bumps in the process made them push it to their next new title.

Not if it's designed right. One playfield done right that doesn't dumb down the gameplay can definitely work. However, if you start cramming in two or more that's when it gets to be too much IMO.

On a positive note I have to say the layout has me intrigued. Definitely want to play it with an open mind. I'm hoping the upper PF can be lit from below the majority of it so they can relay some intensity when the dragon is reigning down fire.

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I think it will. Be kinda silly if it didn't.

What bothers me the most is they continue to raise prices all while cutting corners in many aspects like translight, PF Art, not getting sound clips from shows, having some features not work upon release due to lacking code. At their current price points we deserve to have the total package IMO.

First gate looks to be in front of the left out lane. Not sure of other. Moon door maybe on mini?

Now we are just nitpicking. Why wouldn't red white n blue work? What color fits black/total darkness?

well played!

Well to be fair Stern has a bunch of programmers on staff to support the lead JJP not so much.

I agree. Had the art design team done even a decent job on PF art & plastics there would be little to complain about IMO. I try to be as upbeat as possible but they really did a poor job on PF Art & plastics. Less cogs/gears with none on top of the shield then add female characters on the sling plastics and that would make it look better.

I agree but why not show us all that in action so we can get excited about it? Maybe not ready for prime time I guess.

Pretty sure there was a ST LE or Premium in one of the free play rooms at expo last year. Not sure if they'll have a GOT LE there this year but that would be sweet if it made an appearance.

Makes sense to me. However, it is possible to stay true to the 'desert look' without the playfield art looking this corny. Just seems like the main PF lacked creativity or any inspiration. Kinda mailed in. People are saying this pin layout/design has been 2 years in the making. I'm thinking that the layout combined with a unique well thought out ruleset will make for a pretty fun pin to play. You'd think Stern would make sure the physical PF design has PF art that at the very least wouldnt hurt its overall sales. I think the art on the cab/trans of the LE looks good and is not the problem. The real problem was the poorly thought out/executed PF art.

I'm not saying this is the end of the world or that this pin will not be liked in the end. Only a potential buyer & fan of the theme expressing some disappointment. I went from hmm I'm excited about this release and may need to find a way to add it. To well I'm going to wait and see how I feel about it down the road. I don't think art is the most inportant aspect of a pin but do think it is very important especially in the expanding home collector market.

Well with a bigger shop Stern should be able to give all buyers of the newest release their pins they paid for quickly. Sounds to me like they didn't order enough parts to complete orders paid for KISS Premium. Doesn't make a lot of sense to have that capacity and not fill all orders of your new release in short order. That's the main reason many buy NIB Sterns to get a pin quick after paying.

That makes sense sounds like KISS turned out to be one hell of a release for them. Good to see that type of activity for a new pin. You know us pinball addicts want our pins yesterday. Kinda tough having that much $ tied up for something that we're not playing the hell out of.

Final pro side art looks pretty good IMO.

Can't wait to see that bad boy in action. Sounds like it could end up being pretty damn cool.

Also looks like they put a spot light in there to shine on thrown in certain modes. At least they put in some effort to incorporate a late addition into the game. I know many will say it's not good enough but I think it's a positive step that shows Stern is listening and trying to make us pinheads happy.

Complain same as always

Let's drop the drama guys & stay on topic going forward please.

Yeah I think once they move this amount up on Premiums Stern will notice a drop in demand. At $6500 they have a full featured pin at a cheaper price point than competitors. IMO this is what will keep Stern ahead of the rest. If they raise it much from here the making it at a more appealing price point advantage disappears and it will become a real competition.

Hey DeadFlip glad to have you on Pinside! Big thanks for doing your gameplay vids. Before this we didn't get a chance to see good gameplay footage until later on. It's great to see some gameplay of the newest release so soon after it is made.

It was neither too easy nor repetitive IMO. The lighting was great in Wizard mode. I know it's a work in progress but overall it was/is a great start to a unique & fun rule set.

Was fun hanging out with you NP! Don't sell yourself short you redeemed yourself with that last ball.

Tim at Mezelmods said he's working on something to make it look good.

If I knew the answer to that I would have way more F'N pins!!!