Software based features are easy for competition to emulate.

Kind of similar PF art? At least IJ was set in a desert.

image-8.jpg

12002249_10153578870474244_4025766324294050045_n.jpg

Is someone from Stern really spawn camping sat on Facebook clicking refresh, then deleting anything that sounds remotely negative?

I love what you are doing with your game, but you've gotta stop pimping it in every thread.

PF looks very bla or generic, the etching should say 'Ice and Fire'

Like the upper PF and the sword lock.

Not liking much of the art package.

Didn't WHO Dunnit already do this exact thing 20 years ago?

The fact that Stern can't hire a decent artist is beyond me. For what they charge. This could be the game that art sank. They must be celebrating at JJP today. Now Jack, SHIP THE FUCKING HOBBIT! Your window just opened up. Take advantage of it.

Only 3 topics.

Maybe they have, just not on this game.

Yes , I believe this is so....... I read somewhere in a previous thread where a Pinsider posted a mild complaint about code updates on Stern's F.B & the comments were taken down & I believe he may have also been somehow blocked from commenting again

It sounds like they're emulating Who Dunnit

They don't seem to hire decent artists for Steve Ritchie games, that's for sure. His other two recent Stern games got similarly blasted for bad art as well when pics were first released.

SR is definitely not the King of Art, but of Flow.

So much negativity! Too much "glass is half empty". The pro looks cool and the LE looks cooler.
The pro could easily be a very fun game, it's got plenty going on...

- 2 ramps
- cool sword lock
- 2 loops
- battering ram
- drop targets
- spinner
- kickback aimed at flippers (like IM war machine)
- lockdown bar fire button
- maybe RGB color changing inserts too!
- This has just as much on it as AC/DC Pro - and many really like it -> and no giant Angus face

The pro will play faster, since the right ramp will bring the ball back to the flippers immediately. It could play awesome - it just depends on the CODE!!!

I agree.

However I do not like what he is doing.

For all he whining about the Pro, at least the Pro gets Drop targets.....Isnt that what Pinside has been asking for? You guys are so hard to please.449079-i.jpg

Gah, the pro looks like Zizzle GoT.

It's totally the license.. Star Trek had a pro artist with proven pinball history.

I can't find Gryffindor on the PF? Oh.....wrong game.

To be honest, I'm extremely underwhelmed. I was really expecting something with the long delay from Ritchie's last game and all the hype. I'm not even a fan of the show and thought it would be something I would seriously consider buying. Okay, I get putting color in the display is hard, really hard, for Stern but everything else looks like it was called in. A dragon? Yawn - like we have not seen a dragon in pinball before. The upper playfield looks like it takes up half the game and what else is there? Nothing visually interesting or anything special to me. Maybe it's because I'm not a fan of the show. Steve Ritchie is the best so maybe the magic is there in gameplay. Good thing is I'm not going to feel the pressure to buy another NIB pin anytime soon.

And a spinner!!!!

With all the stuff it looks like they cut out of the pro, that's probably the least they could do.

Game looks interesting but I am really surprised how bad the art-work look (even though I should be used to it by now)

Especially the back glass and cabinet art. It's not only the art. The colors look so bland and uninspiring, including the playfield. In that department I prefer the Hobbit by a mile. But after all, the most important thing is how it plays and the the rules. There is clearly potential in that department.

Will be fun to follow this game but I would not dare to pre-order any version, because they all look so different. This is clearly one game I will have to know more about before I make up my mind. At least it is not yet another T2/AC/DC or Spiderman/Star Trek layout(even though those are great games) so kudos to Steve for trying something new.

This game is doomed if our first impression is that it looks like IJ4.

Look at that spinner too!

I like that the pro has two ramps- I'm not sure how I feel about the way the ramps will work on the perm/LE- the game may feel really slow. looking forward to seeing some gameplay footage

I'm in the same camp as most who have posted. Art is not up to par...A DMD ?...Where is the LCD screen Stern....Really stripped down Pro model. Maybe too much ??
Gameplay...have to play it before deciding, Music, call outs and shot layout will decide that. Could be good, but on first impression...Nope.

So GOT was suppose to dethrone TH. after these pics not a chance.

We absolutely will!

Pretty underwhelmed by the art package so far... doesn't bode well for the premium. Backglass seems like a bunch of photoshop copy and paste. Also the character picks and crops for the side backboxes are kind of head scratching? Also color scheme doesn't seem to capture the feel of the series or follow any promotional marketing materials. Can't believe a brand manager for GOT would have signed off on this?

I'll definitely wait to play the game here....

I agree with everyone about the crappy art. But I wouldn't jump to too many conclusions about the game just yet. Both AC/DC and Star Trek garnered similar reactions when pics were first released. Things changed once people started playing them.

I'd say the brand manager *demanded* it. It was probably the pinball guys going, "really? We have to make it look like that?"

Yep, very disappointing with that whole upper playfield removed. Gameplay could save the Pro, but it's as if they are substituting Game of Thrones Pro for a KISS re-theme with two ramps?

I'm in for a Pro, price is right and love the theme. looks sweet and looks like it will play fast. i also like playing the stripped down acdc pro better than prem/le. ProHo.

"All Game of Thrones pinball models feature an animated interactive dragon that........flies"

Wonder how that's going to work.

I think i like the gameplay.
But wy no molded castle walls instead of a sticker.
This looks cheap.
On twd it looks great for a house.

Honestly, I think it makes MMr look like a good deal.

Given Stern's history, I'm not too sure about that.

Looks like same msrp as TWD and Kiss. Am I missing something?

Looks like we got the LCD price point... but they forgot the LCD

Hopefully the castle walls are mod-able to "real" textured plastic like WOZ.

The wings will move up and down on it.

I predict a lot of cancellations on pre orders

The problem with the Hobbit is the Movies were terrible and the hype around them is long fades. GOT's last season was epic and they are departing from books now, so those of us that read books, have to watch this next season, perfect timing for this pin. Cant wait to try it!!

Yep, I own an AC/DC Pro and don't miss the under playfield and love the speed, but it seems like they've taken an integral part of the game out of the Pro this time around.

That definitely is disappointing, especially because they could have tapped into the train hobby and just used some of their stone walls that people use for dioramas.

They have all kinds of flexible, adhesive backed, stone walls that you can even trim with scissors and x-acto knives. It would have cost about $15 per machine to wrap that castle in simulated stone walls.

shopping.jpg

shopping (1).jpg

Stern is fast in the fb delete, it was just a few seconds before the comment "did hodor do the art" was deleted

Try hitting one of those train walls with a pinball and tell me if you don't end up with a mess in your pinball cabinet. Also the labor cost is really the issue not the parts cost.