New owner for D&d and also my first 6803...

Looking forward to getting serious play in once she's all cleaned up.

I was wondering if anyone could confirm or deny the existence of a strobe feature in the Backbox?
Per ipdb. Apparently there is one.
https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=743

I saw a unused harness, but it is unused in the Backbox photo from ipdb as well so presume that is common?

Also, my bb has a broken receiver for the presumably standard bulb it should take. I presume most might just line the bb with a led strip tho and use the same power feed from the transformer?

Thank you

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Wow.. thanks for the tip!.. Thanks, glad I'm just missing the socket.. was thinking it might be a strobe like FG or something and I'd be hosed

Thank you-

Awesome, thank you. I have one of those in my shed. Not sure which direction I want to go yet so far as led strips or something like that.. I suspect since my socket is mostly gone anyway, I might try some led strips I have around.

Thanks for the tip

Any of you folks have an idea about controlled lamps going out intermittently?

I presume maybe I have a short somewhere but I don't know since the fuses are fine and I presume that or the scr would blow.. Maybe a pin or harness issue. . But i am guessing there are two circuits for controlled lamps. The flame and circular dust lamps seem to always be fine.. But often the other lamps (arrow teleport inserts, pops etc. Seem to be out.) I checked the fuses that I think the documentation points to on the power driver, it's just weird that they seem to come and go as I am cleaning this one out and changing lamps etc. Just wondering if this is somewhat common before I go digging too much. Thank you.

Found it.. Just in case anyone has a similar issue.. Common side of circuit at the harness connecting to the power board is a bit burnt so I guess me jiggling it changing fuses was enough to have it work again for a while. Anyway.. Repinning in my future. But that's easy.

Fun game.

When I first played it at the seller location, the set up seemed easy.. Had to drain my test ball that was going on too long.

After getting it all shopped out, a bit of incline, and I tried silicone rubbers (all I had around in the correct size), it's playing furiously... Nice short balls times.. Keeps the family coming back for one more game.

Had a socket from a bathroom vanity reno that was a good enough replacement for the original.. So just running a CFL until I can get a nicer spreading warm white led ring.

Question about the top left ramp.. I find it quite difficult to make it all the way from a flip.. Needs to basically have some good inertia and perfect timing. I presume this is desirable.. So I'm not going to try to adjust anything here.. Just wanted to see how the other club members shot is on this?

Anyway.. Pretty damn happy.. So many poor rating comments on this game.. Not that they are meaningful.. But just odd since when it is set up... Definitely not an easy game imo.... I might have a party for myself when I finally get mystical million.

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Oh yeah.. Was also wondering how other examples are for insert lifting? Mine was pretty bad.. Took some time to heat and press whta I could back in place. Most of the flames were pretty bad.. But the mylar has kept the pf nice so I'm grateful for that...

But between those and the sockets from hell.. Maybe my finger tips will recover some day.

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Thank you, yeah, I'm pretty happy, on the cleaner side of what I seem to come across these days. :/

Ok thanks, I'll check the mech more thoroughly. Right now it is do-able, but 9/10 times it does not have enough power to clear the ramp.. usually making it to the second switch and rolling back. I kind of like it like this, but it would make getting up dungeon levels near impossible.. but maybe that is a good thing.

Thanks-

Thanks,. yeah I seem to be able to make it sometimes.. might be a bit easier since I tried a quick clean and a adjustment per @chalkey. My bushing is def. a bit worn.. I'll look to rebuild this at some point, but I like the idea of the original mech, I just have this feeling, that it really should_ be a difficult shot.. otherwise, mystical million would be a no brainer strategy?

I guess I was just sort of wondering is a general consensus of how difficult of a shot it should be?.. I like the idea that it is something to strive for. The feed is not too bad. Def. better odds of getting it when it comes down the ramp, as you have that extra inertia to work with.

Interesting. Yeah I can pretty easily power up the right ramp.. It's the left.. At least to go all the way that is tough.. But cool.. Made it to level 3 now and over 1 mill flame bonus.. That was pretty crazy.

Game has some kind of crazy one more game factor.. I've gone through quite a few titles.. Not sure what it is.. Maybe the sound going in my head.. One more game.. Maybe it will sate.

Was thinking how are airballs for you guys? Mines ok.. But once in a while I get some crazy ones.. More so than any other pre 90s classic anyway.

That's weird.. housing must be mis-aligned or something. It is curious though, as deadflip was having trouble on launch as well.

Mine seems to be quite good.. about 30% power to get skill shot... full plunge will just loop around 100%. Pretty sure the rod is OE.

I just meant airballs from the flippers mostly.. I've hit the left side ramp shot hard enough to see the ball flip down the left side rail to drain.

I've had a few somehow bounce around back into the shooter lane... it's not terrible or frequent.. was just wondering

I presume you mean the right ramp?

In a way, it does on a Warrior 2-ball?

Interesting. Yeah, my inserts and posts are ok. could be the pitch / incline.. although it's not too much on mine.. It's a fast playing game. About 1 in 10 games or so, I might see a crazy airball.. just curious about other set ups... maybe the prev. owner juiced the flippers up.. they seem pretty strong, but this is my first 6803.

Yeah, magic save was a easy transition for my family, since we owned a Sharkey's Shootout and own a Black knight.. haha

Had my D&D on an impromptu stream last night... figured I'd share, had such a blast playing, but always have trouble making shots with cameras on, and in the way. Anyway, figured I'd share it here.

Highlighted one of those stuck magic saves that work out, and finally got my mystical million shot that was eluding me:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1475564858

Depends on how dirty we are talking.

For a dirty machine, I like to start with naptha. It is good to break down old wax, and also remove dirt. I try to lift the dirt away as much as possible.

I'll then go to Novus2 as a polish, and go over the PF.

That's really good enough. Wax is a preference, I generally like to apply a light carnauba as I find it increases the speed of the machine.

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I generally reserve Novus1 for heavy CC PFs, since it is has a lot of water in it... but TBH,. it's probably fine as well for quick cleans.

I don't have experience with any other polishes, I've used this product on machines from the 1960s to 2019 with no issue.

Many people will use some alcohol as well, generally this is ok.. but I have had some varnishes react to it, so I prefer naptha over it. If unsure, always best to test an area under the apron etc.

Nice!.. It really is an amazing topper.

Mine is slightly lower on the left on the top, however, PF is level and square on that corner, so I'm guessing it is just the cut and fit of the back pieces.. As the back panel, is secured and could not move that much.

My guess is that perhaps it is a bit of an adjustment, the original question photo of this seems like quite a difference.. so perhaps a prev owner adjusted the bracket on the back to allow the left ramp to be bent down somewhat.. this would come out like a sag, but would make the dungeon advance a lot easier.

Personally I think mine is set up quite well.. the shot is extremely difficult on my set up.. but do-able with just the perfect shot from the upper right. Prob 1/20 good attempts making in through.. lol

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Never had to adjust this type before. But maybe there is a way on the underside of the receiver?

It's a bit awkward, but it can be moved like any other machine.. just need to be a little careful as it can be tippy because of the angle.

Have some photos? Sounds like the ball might not be positioned well in the shooter lane as you have stated... Shooter rod otherwise in good shape?

Here's mine that works perfectly.

Going to guess it is one step down from red.. Whatever that is. Definitely a stiff spring.. Not quite red stiff

Ball makes contact with rubber tip on mine... So maybe mine is coming out a bit further?

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Also check the shooter lane guide that the ball takes. Make sure there is no play on this and see if you can adjust the angle at all.. On mine a half plunge is about right for a skill shot.. Any more will go around the top ramp and come out the other end.

Hopefully you mean, flipping in the literal sense of utilizing the flippers to play games.. and not the selling sense

Awesome! Glad you can finally enjoy it! I sure love mine.

4-balls loaded in machine? maybe closely check the escape drop switches? when the mechanism is down, I believe 2 switches are closed.

Guessing if some switch in the trough or escape holes is perhaps confusing the machine?

I ended up with this. Kind of like just the Blue (which was a white LED IIRC), but my kid liked the idea of it looking like they are fighting, so my test is how it stayed... lol

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Looks like I used 3x Flexible wedge LEDs

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Wow. worthy of the worst hacks thread perhaps.

Here is an old photo I dug up from when I was going through mine, so you have a reference. I think the switch went along side where the gate wire bends beside the blue ramp. Wire had flipped on the outside of the leaf, so presume the prev owner did not have the glory of advancing levels.

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The lamp driver creates a shimmer effect by design. Likely this is what you are seeing. I like it with leds.. If you are having harsh flicker.. Just confirm you have some higher quality lamps anti flicker from Comet. Could try the flux type as well. You should not need the resister on this game afaik, but there seem to be differences in the 6803 Era so who knows

Interesting. When the shot bricks, does the teleporter still drop down and then kick back up instantly?

Diagnostic switch test ok?

Maybe try increasing the gap on the switches, or making sure there is good tension (just thinking as the mech shoots down and up, the leaf might bounce and hold the connection too long?

Hmm.. yeah, some of these custom boards can have weak solder points.. I've needed to reflow everything, but they can be solid after that.. the components and circuit are quite simple.