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FINISHED? - Official "Crack Baby" Pac Man restoration thread


By GLSP3022

2 years ago



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#1 2 years ago

Hello all. My name is Dan from Altoona PA. I bought the infamous "crack baby pac" aka "Gangsta Baby" from Biffbar this weekend in hopes to make a nice playing Baby Pac Man.
I love the game and remember it as a child, I was 4 when it came out. It'd been on my watch list for awhile.
The price was right on this one and it had good bones. Dave was up front about everything with this game so I knew exactly what I was in for.

Over the next several months I hope to document the progress of bringing this machine back to a more like new presentation although it's really cool now. Yes, I will probably upset people by doing things the wrong way or cutting corners but it's a learning process for me and hopefully a teaching tool for others. Please bare wirh me on this. Helpful hints along the way would be much appreciated as well. I apologize in advance, days or weeks may go by without updates due to my busy schedule.
Follow along and favorite the thread if you're interested. Here we go!

#2 2 years ago

Saturday May 19th I made the drive up near Allentown to pic up crack Baby Pac. It was a rainy 3 hr trip but went very well. My 8yr old daughter accompanied me along the way.
For the record, a Baby Pac Man fits comfortably in a 2012 GMC Terrain.

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#3 2 years ago

Why is this one called "crack baby?" Curious

#4 2 years ago

Getting it home and set up. Initial observations are as follows:
-the game plays 100%, no issues with video controls, pinball functions as it should. Coils all fire.
-volume is very low
-about 8 lights are out in the playfield
-playfield is worn in several areas
-pinball needs new rubber
-mpu had prior alkaline damage but was properly cleaned and repaired. No battery or back up is present on the board.
-Cabinet is covered in graffiti but very solid, just minor swelling.
-control panel overlay has seen better days.
-coin door will need taken apart, cleaned, painted, polished, etc.
Other miscellaneous things will need addressed.
Please note, this is by no means a dig at the seller, I knew what i was getting and the price was right. Simply just documentation.

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#5 2 years ago
Quoted from seshpilot:

Why is this one called "crack baby?" Curious

I did neglect to explain.
Back around 2000, this machine was said to have been rescued from a Philadelphia 'crack house.' Hence all the graffiti and tags all over it. Plastic logo bags were still in the machine which we assume was for the crack. Seller said to me it was one of those places where you can't wait to leave! Grab the machine and go!

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#6 2 years ago

First thing I wanted to address was the low sound volume. I first used contact cleaner on the volume pot inside the coin door. It was very corroded. That yielded just a tiny but more sound. Time to move on. I remember watching a video from Arcade Jason and he mentioned a master volume pot on the 'Vidiot' board. Sure enough, after adjusting that, sound was deafening from the speakers! Success!
The pot is located on the lower right quadrant of the Vidiot board.

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#7 2 years ago

The next issue I wanted to address was the missing mpu battery. Even though eventually the game will be unplayable for a time when I move to the playfield restoration, I'd like to start logging my high scores.
Anticipating the purchase, I ordered one of 'Franks battery boards" from TNT Amusements and toddtuckey. I needed another one for a service call anyway.
I am aware of nvram, however, the battery boards provide a nice clean look, easy battery exchange, low likelihood of leakage, and a blocking diode built right in. They install in a matter of minutes! I had to add a small jumper due to the prior corrosion just to sure up the connection. Success! High scores now save!

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#8 2 years ago

Try a Magic eraser, it should take off most of the marker

#9 2 years ago

I bought a baby pac last year. It’s a fun game. I sold it and wish I had it back. Definitely nothing else like it- have fun

#10 2 years ago

My Baby is gone, <sniff>, moved on to a better place. Crack Baby already looks better, from the front, less of a gangster and more like a Baby Pac. Absolutely a fun game, but couldn't support two Baby's here. Very interested to see how Baby does in rehab.

#11 2 years ago
Quoted from Jenniebear:

Try a Magic eraser, it should take off most of the marker

Yes, good call. I will try that. My intention is to get the marker off, bondo the gouges and deep scratches, sand and hopefully get away with touch up. New cabinet art of course.

I have ordered the Baby Pac Man art package from Phoenix arcades. It includes the side art, CPO, PFO, and pinball plastics. One if my goals is to successfully complete a new playfield overlay. With this small size, should be easier than a full sized machine.

#12 2 years ago

Magic eraser and 70% or higher alcohol.
Marker tags should come right off.

#13 2 years ago

Isopropyl alcohol and magic eraser seems to be the right combo. Theres a bit of marker residue left behind, but I'll hit it again.

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#14 2 years ago

Looking at the playfield lights, I wanted to know if I had bad lamps or bad SCRs. Replacing the lamps and they all work. Some bad lamps, some loose sockets. Luckily this machine is equipped with the PCB matrix in the center rather than all those individual sockets. Experimenting wirh a couple LEDS underneath as you can see by the "P"s.

Any owners out there that can tell me if LEDs work well with Baby Pac? They usually flicker or strobe with older Bally games.

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#15 2 years ago

I never understood grafitti like that. You can't understand most of it. I guess the authors were "cracked up". Good work on the game BTW.........

#16 2 years ago
Quoted from GLSP3022:

The next issue I wanted to address was the missing mpu battery. Even though eventually the game will be unplayable for a time when I move to the playfield restoration, I'd like to start logging my high scores.
Anticipating the purchase, I ordered one of 'Franks battery boards" from TNT Amusements and toddtuckey. I needed another one for a service call anyway.
I am aware of nvram, however, the battery boards provide a nice clean look, easy battery exchange, low likelihood of leakage, and a blocking diode built right in. They install in a matter of minutes! I had to add a small jumper due to the prior corrosion just to sure up the connection. Success! High scores now save!

Don’t take this the wrong way but why exactly is a battery which CAN leak and which needs to be changed at some point no matter what better than NVRAM? If a game can have NVRAM I don’t even THINK about a battery solution.

To answer your question I used non ghosting LEDs on my playfield and have no flicker problems.

#17 2 years ago
Quoted from brainmegaphone:

Don’t take this the wrong way but why exactly is a battery which CAN leak and which needs to be changed at some point no matter what better than NVRAM?

No hard feelings. It's just like the LED debate, one could argue that til you're blue in the face, just preference. My Earthshaker has Lithium, however my WCS has NVRAM. I'm not biased.

Quoted from brainmegaphone:

To answer your question I used non ghosting LEDs on my playfield and have no flicker problems

Great! Good to know.

#18 2 years ago

Top right of game looks like the Yakuza tagged your game.

#19 2 years ago
Quoted from chad:

Top right of game looks like the Yakuza tagged your game.

I wonder what some of this means. If anyone can recognize a tag. I almost feel bad removing the history.

#20 2 years ago

One tip - do not mess with the lights when the game is on. You blow scrs on that driver board by breathing sometimes. This issue isn’t as bad with the light setup you have on yours but it still happens. This is the only pin I own that I always shut off to do anything under the playfield.

#21 2 years ago
Quoted from brainmegaphone:

One tip - do not mess with the lights when the game is on. You blow scrs on that driver board by breathing sometimes. This issue isn’t as bad with the light setup you have on yours but it still happens. This is the only pin I own that I always shut off to do anything under the playfield.

Great tip, thanks! Just like the Gottlieb system 3 games. I have been shutting it off to dig around under the playfield; mainly because I'm not as familiar with that machine. I was quite surprised all the lamps do work.
Any tips on removing the old vinyl side art stickers? Those are on there pretty good!

#22 2 years ago

Mine came without stickers so I didn’t have that issue.

#24 2 years ago

Cool project, in need of some TLC

#25 2 years ago

I found his baby mama! lol

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#26 2 years ago

Following, looking good so far.

#27 2 years ago
Quoted from gmkalos:

I found his baby mama! lol

Classic!!!

#28 2 years ago

I have a question for baby pac owners. The "extra baby" feature is not working the way the game is set up now. The blue target registers hits but it doesn't award the exrra baby.
I've been looking at the dip switch settings in the manual and it's a bit confusing as to what controls that feature. Does it have to do with the max number of pac man per game? Need some help with this one.

#29 2 years ago
Quoted from GLSP3022:

I have a question for baby pac owners. The "extra baby" feature is not working the way the game is set up now. The blue target registers hits but it doesn't award the exrra baby.
I've been looking at the dip switch settings in the manual and it's a bit confusing as to what controls that feature. Does it have to do with the max number of pac man per game? Need some help with this one.

Last post here references what may be your issue (dip setting). You then go into the games settings under test.

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rec.games.video.arcade.collecting/MYX_h7JDkck

#30 2 years ago

Man, it's a shame to restore this thing really!

#31 2 years ago
Quoted from brainmegaphone:

Last post here references what may be your issue (dip setting). You then go into the games settings under test.
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rec.games.video.arcade.collecting/MYX_h7JDkck

Yes! Thank you. Since the game had no battery, high score setting reverted back to 00
Setting it to 03 fixed the extra baby issue.

#32 2 years ago

Welcome to the club!

I’m actually on my second Baby Pac-Man as well too. Regretfully sold my first one and shortly there after had sellers remorse.

The Baby is back...and ain’t going anywhere. Such a fun, odd and challenging game.

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#33 2 years ago
Quoted from hassellcastle:

Welcome to the club!
I’m actually on my second Baby Pac-Man as well too. Regretfully sold my first one and shortly there after had sellers remorse.
The Baby is back...and ain’t going anywhere. Such a fun, odd and challenging game.

Wow nice looking example!!

Following this thread...always wanted to add one to the collection and sell off my dedicated PAC MAN machine. Has to be a nice example tho

#34 2 years ago

I was able to remove most of the Sharpie marker from this side using a magic eraser and 91% isopropyl alcohol. Once the other side is cleaned, I'll attempt to remove the old artwork, bondo fill the gouges and then sand and prep for new paint.

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#35 2 years ago

Nice job! Sharpie went away nicely.

#36 2 years ago
Quoted from hassellcastle:

I’m actually on my second Baby Pac-Man as well too. Regretfully sold my first one and shortly there after had sellers remorse.

Very nice! Hope mine will look that nice someday.

#37 2 years ago

Thanks. Mine was kinda a turd too before I fixed it up. Mine needed some cabinet touch up, board work, connectors rebuilt, monitor recapped and new sideart and control panel overlay as well as new drop targets, shopout and upgrades to LEDs. I got lucky my game has factory Mylar on the playfield and shows no wear.

Congrats on your pick up.

It’s such a tough game I don’t think I’ve gotten past the 4th maze.

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#38 2 years ago

My art package from Phoenix Arcades arrived today. Everything looks fantastic. I recieved new plastics, control panel overlay, playfield overlay and cabinet art. However, I'm nowhere near reday for any of it.
I need to call Steve at pinball resource and get a new set of drop targets ordered as well.

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#39 2 years ago
Quoted from hassellcastle:

Congrats on your pick up.

It’s such a tough game I don’t think I’ve gotten past the 4th maze.

Thank you. I just hit the 4th maze this evening but got outsmarted by that pesky red ghost.
hassellcastle may I ask what led scheme you used. I really like the brightness of the playfield and plastic art. Did you use actual yellow leds under the 'PACMAN' inserts?

#40 2 years ago
Quoted from GLSP3022:

Thank you. I just hit the 4th maze this evening but got outsmarted by that pesky red ghost.
hassellcastle may I ask what led scheme you used. I really like the brightness of the playfield and plastic art. Did you use actual yellow leds under the 'PACMAN' inserts?

Hmmm, I don't recall what I used it's been about a year and half since I did my machine so I would need to look under the playfield to see what type of LED's I used. I'll check it out this weekend and report back.

#41 2 years ago

Subscribed. I need to install an overlay on mine but didn't see an easy way to remove the playfield to put it on my rotisserie. I'm curious how you accomplish it.

#42 2 years ago
Quoted from hassellcastle:

Hmmm, I don't recall what I used it's been about a year and half since I did my machine so I would need to look under the playfield to see what type of LED's I used. I'll check it out this weekend and report back.

I haven't dug into it deeply yet but it appears after unlocking the clips under the control panel, you need to unplug the wire harnesses from the boards and lift the playfield out. I plan to strip the topside completely, but leave most items in tact on the underside.

#43 2 years ago

I used white LEDs in my inserts. Tried yellow. Both work fine neither looked that much better to me so I used what I had on hand. You just wouldn’t want to mix them up.

#44 2 years ago
Quoted from GLSP3022:

I haven't dug into it deeply yet but it appears after unlocking the clips under the control panel, you need to unplug the wire harnesses from the boards and lift the playfield out. I plan to strip the topside completely, but leave most items in tact on the underside.

My wire harnesses seem to snake all around. It isn't as straight forward as removing other games I've pulled the fields from.

#45 2 years ago
Quoted from fattdirk:

My wire harnesses seem to snake all around. It isn't as straight forward as removing other games I've pulled the fields from.

Actually it is. The baby pac-man playfield is fairly easy to remove. There is only like 3 or 4 molex plugs that need to be disconnected and the entire playfield can be pulled out from the front. I shopped mine and replaced the LED's without the playfield in my cabinet. It actually made it much easier to clean doing it that way.

#46 2 years ago
Quoted from hassellcastle:

Actually it is. The baby pac-man playfield is fairly easy to remove. There is only like 3 or 4 molex plugs that need to be disconnected and the entire playfield can be pulled out from the front. I shopped mine and replaced the LED's without the playfield in my cabinet. It actually made it much easier to clean doing it that way.

This is great news. I'll have to mess with it now.

#47 2 years ago

Right side of the cabinet is now graffiti free. Next I'll turn my attention to removing the old decals.

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#48 2 years ago

Since I'll be working for the next 3 days, I thought it would be an opportune time to atempt to polish the coin dtop slots. I removed those and dropped them into the vibratory polisher for the next 3 days and we'll see how they turn out.

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I also ordered repro 25c inserts from eBay:
ebay.com link » Midway Arcade Coin Door Insert Pairs 25 Cents

The coin door will eventually be removed and repainted.

#49 2 years ago

After 48 hrs in the polisher, the coin slots look better but the corrosion is too deep. I think I am going to just sandblast them and then back into the polisher. I know it won't have the luxurious chrome look, but the rust has to go.

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#50 2 years ago

Some more parts that I removed and sandblasted at work. Shot them with some coat to prevent further oxidation.

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