Definitely need to turn ball eject coil down after applying the mylar and see what is best, I made the mistake of leaving my JP prem on factory strength while waiting for the protector to show up and I now have a little marring where the ball hit the right edge of the shooter lane. My buddy's say I'm crazy but IT'S THERE! Also wanted to add a playfield protector to JP but pinball machines ARE MEANT TO BE PLAYED! There is mylar in all of the high traffic areas so I'm good with the dimples... I may eventually have the playfield clearcoated but It's FAR TOO ADDICTIVE to let it go out of rotation to unpopulate and clear it RN!

Avengers will be the same way! Can't wait to get my premium! I advise ANY PRO/PREMIUM BUYER to have
Robertstone0407 of Stone cold coatings add some high end finishing touches to your machine... he's done work for me in the recent past (durring all this craziness) and will 100% be doing all of my machines in the future! Want to talk mods? His work is the ultimate mod! I know this is my JP but It's one of Keith's masterpieces and currently my favorite game! Rob will be doing my AIQ prem in this illusion Berry as well!!

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Not following? Whats wrong with the first run?

I second this! Ordered and paid up for my premium already.... will ship directly to me from stern SOON! Only distro I'll be using from now on for all other Elwin titles!

Im surprised they don't know to turn down the strength on the ejection coil, this happens to all new stern machines if they aren't turned down. A piece of mylar at the shooter lane as well as a cliffy when available. I also will be adding a circle of mylar on the P/F where all wire forms exit dropping the ball from above onto the playfield, and another square under the Captain Marvel ramp area just incase the ball drops out from a lack of speed or just happens to fumble for any reason.

I've wanted to try a playfield protector but can't bring myself to with the possibility of changing the way the ball moves on the playfield in a negative manner... I hate to see dimples all over my JP prem but shit happens, these games are meant to be played. I can always clear coat my playfield in the future if need be. I will be keeping all of my Elwin games so it makes sense to do that eventually.

I will put my idea out there it seems to add a bit of flare to the bland post idea and yet keeps the play the same as far as what the ball will hit.

Place a petg disc above the post and mount a gem, strands of what looks like colorful sling blade, or anything that will fit on top without hitting the glass when the disc raises for ball lock. Here is a picture I came up with just messing around to give an idea... very very rough...

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Thats true, Im not trying to add anything too heavy just a thin disc with a gem mounted to it or even something that looks like a bright orange/red twister to emulate the look of the spinning sling blade.

I wax after the first 100 plays, stern says use novus 2 but that is a buffing compound and although very mild it can still negatively effect your playfield over time especially with the way these new stern playfields have been clear coated with a watered down thin layer of clear... I use mothers straight carnauba with no additives. Also do a good wipe down prior to waxing the field to get all of the dirt and debris off of the playfield, to do this I used to use naphtha generously but I worry about the newer stern playfields and now use as little as possible on the PF also cleaning all of the rubbers/silicone/urethane prior to the waxing.

How many 420's you have?

From Trent?

Congratulations! SUPER EXCITING!

Also in on a prem and I asked this a while back and many reminded me none of the games have been delivered to customers yet aside from a few LE's yesterday and today! (WHOOHOO!!!) So we're VERY CLOSE TO PREM Run #1

I like the gauntlet just fine but the GEMS on it need to be changed out! I know they didnt want anyone to see the led boards behind a clear gem but they obviously would be colored a bit to hide the leds inside...

The tower 100% should be more accurate as far as the look and shape. I can paint it myself if need be but anything is better then the cheap-o flatstics (flat-plastics ) stern uses on all of their machines 5k-15k they never break the mold... or break out a mold to make some sculpts! Their games would look SO MUCH BETTER.

The sanctum mod would go great incorporated with a mod for the pop bumpers... they need to make them pop! A bit more than just the standard flat plastic... so sick of those!

Nicely done! Id love to see how it looks installed along with his teeth painted a light grey. Very nice touch! BRAVO!

Thankyou for sharing this with us all, what a bummer to have that happen after just setting the game up and playing just a few games on it... but I'm sure they will jump to the send you a full assembly asap. Did the spot weld fail causing the pin to drop? Is it something a local welder could fix for you? Not every shop has a spot welder but tig may be a possibility?
Can't wait to get my premium!

Please keep us posted on the progression with your distro or stern directly. Thanks man! Also is it possible to turn the physical ball lock off and just play with virtual locks in the time being?

Also that Epoxy floor treatment is AWESOME! IM going to finish off my basement next year if all goes well and was about to price out some laminate flooring, whats the cost on this route VS buying the flooring and labor on install? Any idea?

Where else was this brought up? Was it all the same single weld? Doesn't seem like this would be a big issue. Although spot welds do sometimes have issues with fully penetrating the surfaces.

You're 100% right!
The spot Iron is the only award displayed that is visible from the players perspective! How they didn't see this is beyond me. I know they wanted an RGB light as close to the spinning disc as possible but they could have made a better visible sign or moved the RGB light fixture to the side of that sign.

I know right!! They should have shown a scene in front of the tower building with members of the black order terrorizing the city. And! For each shot made the game shows a cut scene of that specific shots corresponding Avenger attacking a different member of the black order!!! That would be a great setup and when you get a trophy, there is a cut scene showing a cameras view entering the tower and flowing through it into the trophy room. It wouldn't be bad to keep the blue cpu room screen for parts of the game where the player is focused on a super computer mode challenge. But that blue room as the main game mode screen just doesnt mesh well with A SAVE THE WORLD COLLECT THE GEMS OR THE WORLD WILL BE IN GRAVE DANGER! ATMOSPHERE IT SHOUKD GIVE OFF!

Anyone here heard from their distros on Premium arrival? I was told Oct. 9th back in September when I was told to pay in full and did so... just curious if anyone else who put their deposit in and then had been told to pay in full recieved their shipping info yet.... I'm excited to get this machine!

Hopefully stern fixes the shitty welds on the portal lock mechs, they should've come up with a better design as many folks have had two balls locked up top with one at the third position causing all sorts of issues, along with the spinning disc sensors being faulty.

Whys that?

Or maybe they figured you had 50% success rate and called it a day! (I'm joking)

Hit them up tomorrow, I'm sure you'll get a fix. It may just be you have a short in the wiring have you tested the voltage at the discs connector?

Have you by chance noticed any balls fly off the right orbit return rails? That may be a good time to tell stern about that as well so you can gauge their knowledge about that issue as well....

What was your machine manufacture date?

Whats your build date? looks like they implemented the change in the first week of October.

My bad, didn't realize the two pictures were of an LE and a PRO machine, they may not have implemented a change at all... captain Marvel spinner shot required the one Rubber to help the ball come around as smooth as possible but after watching videos they could have worked a bit more on the flow of that shot, however I assume the pro design was an afterthought with Prem/LE being developed first.

They are having a Chinese manufacturer make them, cool white (natural light) bulbs they have STERN on them and are 6.3v comet has a 5v cool white that puts off an exact color match but it's a bit brighter than sterns bulbs due to the 5v being optimal for spike system.

Not to mention the cost difference the work that CGC put into redrawing the DOTS and the added LED integration with the GI as well makes their new machines a thing of beauty! I loved the SE Monsters bash we had in my area with the Bigger DMD and added Lightshow improvements it was EPIC! Well worth the 7,200 for the machine shipped. It had been hard to find a good quality original MB for under 7k and these things BLOW THE ORIGINAL OUTTA THE WATER!!! Stern needs to Improve the QC and Upgrade the no brainer parts for all of us LOYAL customers who pay $7500-9100 on the regular! We deserve colored GI & FULL RGB Lighting at this point for premium games as well as a custom sculpted topper and a few sculpts to replace certain flat plastic themed pieces found on their pro /premium/ LE models and just make those flat themed plastics for the PRO only (think flat plastic gauntlet on pro VS sculpted gauntlet on Prem/LE.) Or flat plastic of raptor on JP2 pro VS plastic moving raptor figure on Premium/LE. Some stuff is just LONG OVERDUE STERN PINBALL!

I get your point... but I think these games should have the capability of colored GI included so the design team can implement different moments in the games as they see fit... I don't incorporate any kind of static colors in my GI lamps for the sole reason of how horrible it makes a game look if done the wrong way. BUT! The cpu controlled RGB lighting used on CGC games, rick and morty, TMNT, walking dead, and some of the work pinball refinery did with some of their custom machines (Thinking of Metallica off the top of my head) is GREAT! Also the ability to utilize RGB GI within browser.

Hope you get that replacement mech and the welds look to be of better quality. Please take a few pictures of the two so we can see if they've just sent you another without modification or if they actually took a look at the problem area which quite a few have had HERE and im sure many others not on pinside have also experienced.

I know the feeling,
my tracking said today would be the day. I called yesterday to try and setup a delivery for today but it was said to be in transit to a closer location which is a short ten minutes from my location.... so today I called and they said it was still on it's way from the hub that was just two hours from my location and their hub as well. This means I likely won't get my call untill monday and delivery on tuesday IF I'M LUCKY! I even asked to pick it up today at the terminal if it showed up. They said yes! If it arrived before four thirty. (And it's currently five fourty five.)

Is Lonnie the one responsible for the final packaging of each code update? I'd think it's on the lead software engineer from each individual title to implement changes and polish before submitting code revisions, and they most definitely should have the ability to block the transfer if the machine isn't the proper trim level.

This is a VERY SIMPLE FIX. Stern has just been slow to make these changes!

Go play a JP ASAP You'll fall in love 100%

Glass channel most likely.

So happy for you! Mine has pooling around the Pym ball guide, on both sides of the thor captive ball (guides) the wagonda ball guide, and one post on the right outlane area which had a washer under it and the pooling surrounds the washer.... I noticed a chip of the art was missing ON DAY ONE from the right side of my pym ball guide (the side the ball never contacts) but the guide was dug so far into the playfield that the art bubbled up slong the guide and chipped off before even making it to my home! This is unacceptable being a $7800 game that was never played to have such damage on day one! I contacted stern but I just don't see them sending me a populated playfield to fix these issues that I clearly can't fix myself after paying nearly 8k for a new machine. I know it's "pinball" and the machines are meant to be played, but I can't get the thought out of my head that if I were selling a 8k machine I'd make sure my customers were looked after 100% especially before they even played one game!

There is a nut under the playfield.